Who here has lost friends due to political differences?

And for good reason Frank

we really can't handle the truth about ourselves

while most would point to the ugly side of life, mostly socio-political, as being someone else's fault

One can set their watch on it here

~S~
Good point Sparky. to your last point I totally agree with you. I don’t push my views on anybody I don’t force anybody to agree with me. They can do what they want. But once somebody calls me a racist or some kind of a name I don’t see how it benefits me to hang out with those types of people.
 
Does this mean you favor fiscal responsibility?

Absolutely ... shut down Federal government if they can't balance their stupid checkbook ... defund the police ...

And for the sake of God above ... STOP "PRINTING" MONEY ... let stupid people go bankrupt ... or we'll be bailing out broken businesses forevermore ... demand Congress REDUCE the debt limit ...

Borrowing money to pay off past loans? ... that's stupid ...

... but social liberal ... abortion, amnesty, acid ..
 
STOP "PRINTING" MONEY
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~S~
 
The galvanized washers we were using on a construction project cost 39¢ each ... we ran out one day so we drilled a big hole in some quarters ... worked great for almost half price ...

Money ain't what it used to be ...
Good lord RD's..... :eek: maybe you should be makin' the meme's....~S~
 
Absolutely ... shut down Federal government if they can't balance their stupid checkbook ... defund the police ...

And for the sake of God above ... STOP "PRINTING" MONEY ... let stupid people go bankrupt ... or we'll be bailing out broken businesses forevermore ... demand Congress REDUCE the debt limit ...

Borrowing money to pay off past loans? ... that's stupid ...

... but social liberal ... abortion, amnesty, acid ..
How do you actually vote?
 
Not me....In fact, it's the opposite.

My frens in the late '90s and early oughts had me pegged as an Alex Jones featured guest, railing against the Fed, endless stupid foreign wars, the socialistic freeloader state, the FBI, CIA, BATF, Patriot Act, DHS, TSA, and all the other trappings of the police/spook state.

Now a lot of them wish that they were Ron Paul supporters.

I agree with all you said except "the socialistic freeloader state"?
What is that?
We have very little welfare in this country, and we prevent socialism so strongly, that have massive abusive monopolies, like health care and insurance.
As a landlord, I get all sorts of tax benefits, and my tenants buy properties for me.
So it seems to me the system is very rigged in favor of the wealthy, and we need much more socialism?
 
How do you actually vote?

The Democrat Congressman we have been sending was a moderate ... we can blame TSA on him ... the rest of the Oregon deligation are a bunch of "taxes and spend" liberals ...

I always vote "no" on general tax measures that would charge me ... and "yes" on general tax measures that don't charge me ... individual bond issues I treat on a case-by-case basis ...

The physical process is writing out my choices and handing them out to my tenants, informing them that if election swings this way, I won't have to raise rents ... [wink wink nudge nudge] ... and go ahead and bring by your ballot, either we can fill it out together or just leave it ...





You can sign it when you pay your rent ...





... if you get my drift ...
 
Good to hear from you, Rigby! :thewave:

I know many generous conservatives AND many generous liberals AND many generous leftists. :)

And also some major scumbags in all three groups. :(

Someone must be greedy and corrupt, because the whole rest of the world pays half what we do for health care, and they get better health care than we do.

While some people may be generous with those they personally know, it seems many start to allow their generosity to fail when it comes to strangers.
And once that happens, it does not take long for society to become less humane in general.
The ultimate lesson in greed we should have learned from, was ancient Rome.
Their hubris was set too high due to their technology, that allowed them to murder others in order to steal their wealth, and that materialism contaminated their own culture.
They degenerated into incest, patricide, gladiators, etc.
Total social decay.
 
The elite - conservative AND liberal - do this.

Many rank/file conservatives are great people.

And many are scumbags of course.

True, the lower levels of both sides tend to be manipulated the elite on both side.
Its funny because sometimes I get the impression there really are not 2 side, and the whole political conflict is faked in order to cause a polarity in the lower level followers, that is not real.
 
Having a core group of friends, especially for guys is a huge part of American society. It is a political thing. Only in the recent times have things like Donald Trump, Joe Biden, Black Lives Matter, LGBT things broken up friendships. This is a relatively new thing. It has happened in the past but today it’s a more serious problem for sure.

I had four really close friends that I’ve known since high school really close with them for 15 years. But Around 2020 with the rise of the Black Lives Matter riots …. those friendships were shaken up.


I’ve lost good friends from my high school years because they are far left wingers.

For example, when the 2020 BLM riots took place. A good friend of mine went to BLM rallies, he supported what they were saying. I was astonished at it completely shocked. We would get into arguments. I would tell him you can’t do this. You’re of Italian heritage like me. You can’t turn your back on your ancestors and call them racist when they weren’t racist when they were honorable people. We would get into arguments. He would call me a racist. It’s the same friend who has been a “stay at home boyfriend” for about 10 years now. His girlfriend goes to work and makes all the money. He’s a disgrace. He’s also a drug user … smoking weed using cocaine various things. if you look on his Facebook page, he has an LGBT flag. He is a different man compared to when I knew him in the high school years and my early 20s.

By the way, here’s the idea for this conversation



Throughout the podcast featuring Andrew Tate and Justin Waller, you get to hear the importance of having good friends around you. Strong minded people who care about honorable traditions. It’s really important for men to have friendships with strong minded men who are drug-free, who work out who respect traditions. If one has weak friends, one will be weak.

If one has strong minded, kind, compassionate, honorable friends, they will retain those values.

I had about four really close friends growing up through high school… I saw one of them about four weeks ago. He’s also a far left wing extremist. He doesn’t wanna listen to things.. he’s unemployed. He smokes a ton of weed. He sits around selling things on eBay, making a fraction of what he made his old job.

The third friend I recently texted a few weeks ago. He supports abortion, infact, one of his girlfriends from 15 years ago or so actually had an abortion. He’s not really that religious. But he still retain some level of Dignity …he works. He just had a child. Of the four close friends I’m talking about here. He’s the only one with a kid. He smokes weed quite a bit I think, sells weed. Of all four of my high school friends this is the one I might retain some level of a relationship with we will see.

And then my fourth friend would always call me when he’s drunk. He seems to have various issues. He smokes a lot of weed. Who knows where this one will go… he lives in Florida and likes Ron DeSantis, which is interesting considering the amount of weed he smokes

And so I have myself as I have told many people on this board was in a terrible car accident about three years ago. I eventually came to the conclusion that I need to work out, be healthy. Be strong get off the weed. I am off weed work out as much as I can. I got all the reasons in the world to give up. But I don’t. And I could change who I am to try and go back to my old friends who support BLM, whi smoke dope , who support waving an LGBT flag and probably who even support waving the flag of Ukraine. There’s no way I’m going to do that. Because I am who I am and I’m a man I can’t change that. I can’t become lesser of a man to fulfill the desires of far left wing extremists, even if they were my close friends in high school.


Btw I do have a few traditional old school friends that I play poker with. I have known these guys for 10 + years. But for the most part they’re much older than me in their 70s including Vietnam veterans. Really great guys to hang out with. But other than Poker I don’t really see them much.



I’m sure many people here can relate their own stories of losing friends because of a difference over Donald Trump or something similar. And these people, my fellow posters many of you might be in a similar position where you’re trying to find new friends meet new acquaintances. And this is again important thing for a man if you wanna be able to find a woman, it helps to have good close, friends guy friends that is with like minded thoughts.

I’m happy to say that I recently I went back to the Islamic school I used to work at (I made a thread about this). I talked with a guy I recognized from my time working at the school. And I realize I can probably get something positive from this. I can start hanging out with this guy and more people from the mosque, who are about traditions, being strong, doing the right things opposing far left wing extremism. And they don’t even necessarily have to be Muslims. I realize that these types of guys they’re black, they’re Arab, some are white but they are all from the “old school” even though we’re in our 20s and 30s. And so with these types of men, we won’t be sitting around smoking dope watching some dumb cartoon movie playing some dumb video game…. will be sitting around like men discussing real topics how to make our lives better how to be stronger. That’s it. Have a nice day folks

And please share your stories if you have them if you lost close friends due to political differences… and what you’re doing to find new friends with like-minded thoughts to make yourself a better person to make those around you better to make your community stronger.

If you lose friends over politics, they are either not very good friends or they have been brainwashed to believe that you can not support both liberal and conservatives issues. If you are an atheist you must be a democrat and you oppose abortion, you must be republican. This is exactly why Gallup polling last month found that a record 49% of Americans see themselves as politically independent. They selective support issues on both sides; that is they think for themselves. In 2004, there were only 31% of Americans who claimed to be Independent.
 
The right is bankers, corporate owners, and other wealthy elite.
They are the ones who prevent pubic health care, even though it would cost us all half as much, because they profit from the current monopolies.

The right tries to lowers taxes for the wealthy, while the left tries to raise the minimum wage.
The right tried to increase drug penalties even though drug users harm no one else.
Let's just kick out all the employers (corporations, bankers, wealthy) and all of us just work for the government. They can just print more money to pay us! UTOPIA!
 
That’s your call but I think you’re being played by politics. Perhaps your friends too.

I hear the way Trump talks about our country and I don’t hear a patriot, I hear a hateful whiner who spends most his time complaining about how bad and corrupt we are.

So your side thinks they are patriots. They other side thinks they are the patriots.

It’s all just a game. Don’t get played
But it’s not Donald Trump. It’s the rise of BLM and far left wing extremism. Cancel culture and things like that that turned my friend into something he wasn’t 10 or 15 years ago. You’re talking about a stay at home boyfriend who smokes dope all the time. Who calls someone a racist if they like Donald Trump.

I tell my friend that I have been influenced by Andrew Tate to get off marijuana, I have my other influences like Jesus in my heroes of history. So I say this to my friend and he says “ Greta Thunberg made fun of Andrew Tate, and if you support Andrew Tate, you’re a monster” . This is the kind of stuff that Americans are dealing with these days because of the far left. 10 years ago, my friend would’ve admired Andrew Tate. He would’ve been out there working out, getting healthy and now he’s a stay at home boyfriend smoking drugs all the time, sitting watching TV. What is that?

It’s not up to me to tell somebody how to live their life. If an LGBT person is gay, they’re living their life. If an LGBT person says a 10-year-old can get a sex change operation. That’s a problem. That’s like a straight person saying a 10 year old can get a sex change operation. That’s a problem.





People don’t call Biden supporters racists. This exclusively seems to be something that left wing extremist due to wreck, friendships, or even marriages. I have heard that marriages have been broken up over politics recently. .

Whatever one thinks about Biden or Trump… calling somebody a racist for supporting either one of them is crossing the line. And so that’s my position.

If somebody out there is a Biden supporter and they tell one of their friends who voted for Trump that they support Biden. …If the Trump person starts calling the Biden supporter all sorts of names, how can the Biden supporter sit in the same room with that person. Do you know what I mean?
 
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The Democrat Congressman we have been sending was a moderate ... we can blame TSA on him ... the rest of the Oregon deligation are a bunch of "taxes and spend" liberals ...

I always vote "no" on general tax measures that would charge me ... and "yes" on general tax measures that don't charge me ... individual bond issues I treat on a case-by-case basis ...

The physical process is writing out my choices and handing them out to my tenants, informing them that if election swings this way, I won't have to raise rents ... [wink wink nudge nudge] ... and go ahead and bring by your ballot, either we can fill it out together or just leave it ...





You can sign it when you pay your rent ...





... if you get my drift ...
Have you ever voted for a POTUS under whom deficits fell?
 
But it’s not Donald Trump. It’s the rise of BLM and far left wing extremism. Cancel culture and things like that that turned my friend into something he wasn’t 10 or 15 years ago. You’re talking about a stay at home boyfriend who smokes dope all the time. Who calls someone a racist if they like Donald Trump.

I tell my friend that I have been influenced by Andrew Tate to get off marijuana, I have my other influences like Jesus in my heroes of history. So I say this to my friend and he says “ Greta Thunberg made fun of Andrew Tate, and if you support Andrew Tate, you’re a monster” . This is the kind of stuff that Americans are dealing with these days because of the far left. 10 years ago, my friend would’ve admired Andrew Tate. He would’ve been out there working out, getting healthy and now he’s a stay at home boyfriend smoking drugs all the time, sitting watching TV. What is that?

It’s not up to me to tell somebody how to live their life. If an LGBT person is gay, they’re living their life. If an LGBT person says a 10-year-old can get a sex change operation. That’s a problem. That’s like a straight person saying a 10 year old can get a sex change operation. That’s a problem.





People don’t call Biden supporters racists. This exclusively seems to be something that left wing extremist due to wreck, friendships, or even marriages. I have heard that marriages have been broken up over politics recently. .

Whatever one thinks about Biden or Trump… calling somebody a racist for supporting either one of them is crossing the line. And so that’s my position.

If somebody out there is a Biden supporter and they tell one of their friends who voted for Trump that they support Biden. …If the Trump person starts calling the Biden supporter all sorts of names, how can the Biden supporter sit in the same room with that person. Do you know what I mean?
I smoke weed, am healthier than you and think Tate is a douche.
 

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