Who Do You Vote For In 2024?

Who Would You Vote For In 2024?

  • Joe Biden/Democrat

  • RFK Jr./Independent

  • Joe Manchin/No Labels

  • Cornell West/Independent

  • Donald Trump/Republican

  • Liz Cheney/Libertarian or Independent

  • Other/write in

  • I wouldn't vote


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I don't know. That seems to be the normal cycle of how things work in the primaries and then switching over to the general.
I know but the stakes have never been this high. We've never seen the invasion of millions upon millions of illegals, a certain percentage of which are certainly dangerous bad actors, and those would be in the tens of thousands if their percentage of all the illegals is really low.

We haven't been as close to WWIII as we are now since the Cuban missile crisis in the 1960's.

We have never had a government so willing to completely sell America out to foreign interests as we have now.

It is more important than ever that those on the right stop eating their young and pull together with a united front for what is really important. Mean tweets are not important.
 
Correct.

You also STARTED A POLL on THIS site. THIS site is right-leaning.
I told you that you could ignore the USMB poll and just go with the realclearpolitics poll. You don't seem to want to address that and I can understand why. You are a fact denier.
 
I know but the stakes have never been this high. We've never seen the invasion of millions upon millions of illegals, a certain percentage of which are certainly dangerous bad actors, and those would be in the tens of thousands if their percentage of all the illegals is really low.

We haven't been as close to WWIII as we are now since the Cuban missile crisis in the 1960's.

We have never had a government so willing to completely sell America out to foreign interests as we have now.

It is more important than ever that those on the right stop eating their young and pull together with a united front for what is really important. Mean tweets are not important.
Both sides already have more than enough ammunition to attack the other side, using clips from the other side.
 
What kind of idiot imbecile would vote for Joe Biden

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the 14 tenets of fascism:

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!!!

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
- Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

IMMIGRATION TASK FORCE- 'ROUND 'EM UP!!!!' WE Will USE TORTURE!!!!

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
- The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

MUSLIMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!


4. Supremacy of the Military
- Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

“I Will Be So Good at the Military, Your Head Will Spin.”

5. Rampant Sexism
- The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.

LOL!!!! link:

Donald Trump Said A Lot Of Gross Things About Women On "Howard Stern"

miss universe.........aka miss piggy housekeeping.......

'there should be some sort of punishment' for women who have an abortion

^^^ accomplished ^^^



6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

'The Blacklist': Here are the media outlets banned by Donald Trump link:

'The Blacklist': Here are the media outlets banned by Donald Trump


7. Obsession with National Security
- Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.


8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed
to the government's policies or actions.



9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

Trump Empire. 'nuff said.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

& "wages are too high" - Donald J. Drumpf.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.

unless you are a 'a hand picked professor' at Trump University.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
- Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

I AM THE LAW & ORDER CANDIDATE!!!!!!!!!!!


13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
- Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

Look at who angled for a position or already had one in his cabinet & were hanging on to him .... Giuliani, hedge fund execs, bannon & obviously his offspring....

14. Fraudulent Elections
- Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

Trump Campaign Paid $3.5 Million To Stop The Steal Organizers, Report Finds​

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Former Staff
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People involved in organizing the January 6 “Stop the Steal” protests that led to a deadly riot at the Capitol building received more than $3.5 million from the Trump campaign and its associated fundraising committees, a Wednesday reportfrom the Center for Responsive Politics found.

KEY FACTS​

The new revelation stemmed from a review of recent Federal Election Commission filings by OpenSecrets (an arm of the Center for Responsive Politics).
OpenSecrets also found that at least three people listed on permit records for the Stop the Steal rally were employed by the Trump campaign through the end of November 2020.
The filing also showed payment from the Trump campaign to a company called Event Strategies, Inc., which was named on a permit for the rally and employed two people involved in the events on January 6, OpenSecrets said.
OpenSecrets noted that the full extent of the payments from Trump’s campaign to rally organizers may be much larger because of how the campaign routed hundreds of millions of dollars through shell companies that obscure the name of the ultimate recipient.
Trump Campaign Paid $3.5 Million To Stop The Steal Organizers, Report Finds
 
the 14 tenets of fascism:

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!!!

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
- Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

IMMIGRATION TASK FORCE- 'ROUND 'EM UP!!!!' WE Will USE TORTURE!!!!

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
- The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

MUSLIMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!


4. Supremacy of the Military
- Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

“I Will Be So Good at the Military, Your Head Will Spin.”

5. Rampant Sexism
- The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.

LOL!!!! link:

Donald Trump Said A Lot Of Gross Things About Women On "Howard Stern"

miss universe.........aka miss piggy housekeeping.......

'there should be some sort of punishment' for women who have an abortion

^^^ accomplished ^^^



6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

'The Blacklist': Here are the media outlets banned by Donald Trump link:

'The Blacklist': Here are the media outlets banned by Donald Trump


7. Obsession with National Security
- Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.


8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed
to the government's policies or actions.



9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

Trump Empire. 'nuff said.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

& "wages are too high" - Donald J. Drumpf.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.

unless you are a 'a hand picked professor' at Trump University.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
- Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

I AM THE LAW & ORDER CANDIDATE!!!!!!!!!!!


13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
- Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

Look at who angled for a position or already had one in his cabinet & were hanging on to him .... Giuliani, hedge fund execs, bannon & obviously his offspring....

14. Fraudulent Elections
- Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

Trump Campaign Paid $3.5 Million To Stop The Steal Organizers, Report Finds​

Sarah Hansen
Former Staff
Markets
I cover breaking news.
Follow

People involved in organizing the January 6 “Stop the Steal” protests that led to a deadly riot at the Capitol building received more than $3.5 million from the Trump campaign and its associated fundraising committees, a Wednesday reportfrom the Center for Responsive Politics found.

KEY FACTS​

The new revelation stemmed from a review of recent Federal Election Commission filings by OpenSecrets (an arm of the Center for Responsive Politics).
OpenSecrets also found that at least three people listed on permit records for the Stop the Steal rally were employed by the Trump campaign through the end of November 2020.
The filing also showed payment from the Trump campaign to a company called Event Strategies, Inc., which was named on a permit for the rally and employed two people involved in the events on January 6, OpenSecrets said.
OpenSecrets noted that the full extent of the payments from Trump’s campaign to rally organizers may be much larger because of how the campaign routed hundreds of millions of dollars through shell companies that obscure the name of the ultimate recipient.
Trump Campaign Paid $3.5 Million To Stop The Steal Organizers, Report Finds
Here's a key fact for you. We were a lot better off when Trump was president. Definitely a sign of fascism with Biden persecuting a political rival. Luckily I am in the majority now and you were in the minority. Fascist

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why did only 25 people respond to the poll?

The right claims it leans left, the left claims it leans right.

:boo_hoo14:
So you think it’s just a magical coincidence that each of the polls leans right. Got it.

Maybe you should have spent more time educating yourself instead of being a mod. ;)
 
You're using the corrupt Hillary Clinton for your argument? What a sham. What a dishonest Democrat you are. Shame

i'm using hillary because DONNY tried to get HER locked up.... you know his POLITICAL RIVAL?

that there is ironic hypocrisy.

i am not a (D) .... i have voted for 'em, but i also have voted (R) AND green party.
 
i'm using hillary because DONNY tried to get HER locked up.... you know his POLITICAL RIVAL?

that there is ironic hypocrisy.

i am not a (D) .... i have voted for 'em, but i also have voted (R) AND green party.
Of course you would deny being a Democrat LOL. They all do
 
Actually he didn't, you're a liar. Congratulations

i don't lie.

“If I win, I am going to instruct my attorney general to get a special prosecutor to look into your (missing email) situation,” Trump said, “because there has never been so many lies, so much deception.”

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