Meanwhile, after the 2016 election, the Dems and MSM told us for three years that the 2016 election was stolen via Russian influence, the only real proof that ever surfaced was that some Russian bought ~$10,000 in Facebook ads.
the Dems and MSM had a source:
Key Judgments
Russian efforts to influence the 2016 US presidential election represent the most recent expression of Moscow’s longstanding desire to undermine the US-led liberal democratic order, but these activities demonstrated a significant escalation in directness, level of activity, and scope of effort compared to previous operations.
I’m not sure what your sources or experience could be that you are capable of writing off US intelligence assessments as all lies, but I won’t argue that matter with someone who could be working on a Russian troll farm somewhere.
But I would like to draw your attention to that 2017 judgment I posted above. This phrase from that paragraph is so relevant to this thread I’m glad you tried to divert from it with your Russia Russia pout.
“Moscow’s longstanding desire to undermine the US-led liberal democratic order”
Think about that in conjunction with what Trump’s insurrection tweet contains
“All Mike Pence has to do is send them back to the States, AND WE WIN. Do it Mike, this is a time for extreme courage!"
Moscow had to be quite happy as it was with the insurrection they got out of Trump and his militant white nationalist fan club.
But just how overjoyed Moscow would have been if Pence had joined the insurrection as Trump wanted and he found a way to stop the certification and throw the entire 2020 election into chaos.
That I believe was Trump’s goal. chaos. He wanted to stop Biden’s certification and get it into the courts. Tie it up in court such that the it forces the election to be settled in the House of Representatives where Trump wins. Find an excuse to impose martial law.
Trump: “All Mike Pence has to do is send them back to the States, AND WE WIN.”
Putin: “Moscow’s longstanding desire to undermine the US-led liberal democratic order,”
The goals are intertwined.
Too fuckin close to fuckin chaos for me. Can we stop with the whataboutism and focus on the real threat from Trump’s final acts to undermine US -led liberal democratic order,”
Obama lied as a candidate that you couid keep your doctor - give me a ******* break.