Who are the real Nazis?

No, it's not. You imbecile.
Behavior patterns have inevitable consequences.
Most people do want to recognize that fact.

Do you always just spout random idiocy? What does that have to do with your "fact is always propaganda" blah blah blah stupidity? Fucking focus. Or shut up.
Define propaganda.
Fuck you. You define propaganda.

I take that as you answering that yes, you do just spout random idiocy.

And that means you go on ignore. I advise everybody else to do the same. You actually suck the intelligence out of the room. You and that nitwit SomeGay are equally worthless.
I see we've graduated to homophobic insults. You're making stellar progress.

People who object to those who couch their objections to ideology based on the number of tenets they share with the nazi party should be listened to.

Have you ever heard the term *never forget*?

Leftists want us to forget, they demand we forget..and that's another way in which they represent nazis. Nazis also seized the narrative and declared it a *crime* to embrace any form of speech, including history, that did not support their ideology.

They called themselves socialists because that allowed them to dupe morons who would hop on board and kill anybody who dared to protest the supreme and murderous authority of the state.
 
Nazis are those who proclaim themselves to be Nazis and those who do all they can to defend them and demonize anyone who opposes Nazis

Yes. But those who ignore your POV and violently protest against it. See Berkeley. Are Fascists.
No, those are not Nazis, and there are not fascists

Everyone's point of view isn't equal -- Nazis and their ideology has been soundly and righteously defeated time and time again -- they no longer get to claim their ideology should have equal space as those of us who support human dignity.

People at Berkeley who didn't want Ben Shapiro to speak are Fascists. Plain and simple. There is zero dispute over this. Unless you can explain to me their reasoning to deny him his first amendment rights and their fellow students at the University who wanted to hear him speak and perhaps debate him? Intollerance for the sake of intollerance is a form of fascism.
Then you don't know what fascism is...

you should also remember exactly who the 1a limits -- the government -- it doesn't guarantee you that other citizens won't take action against your BS covert racism -- and its funny you Trump cucks are all upset over Ben Shapiro -- since you same Trump cucks hurled plenty of Anti-Semitism at Ben for saying mean things about Trump -- so spare me

Ben Shapiro Can't Save The GOP | Dan From The Internet

Taking action to prevent free speech is fascism.

Carry on, pig.
 
Nazis are those who proclaim themselves to be Nazis and those who do all they can to defend them and demonize anyone who opposes Nazis

Yes. But those who ignore your POV and violently protest against it. See Berkeley. Are Fascists.
No, those are not Nazis, and there are not fascists

Everyone's point of view isn't equal -- Nazis and their ideology has been soundly and righteously defeated time and time again -- they no longer get to claim their ideology should have equal space as those of us who support human dignity.

People at Berkeley who didn't want Ben Shapiro to speak are Fascists. Plain and simple. There is zero dispute over this. Unless you can explain to me their reasoning to deny him his first amendment rights and their fellow students at the University who wanted to hear him speak and perhaps debate him? Intollerance for the sake of intollerance is a form of fascism.
Then you don't know what fascism is...

you should also remember exactly who the 1a limits -- the government -- it doesn't guarantee you that other citizens won't take action against your BS covert racism -- and its funny you Trump cucks are all upset over Ben Shapiro -- since you same Trump cucks hurl plenty of Anti-Semitism at Ben for saying mean things about Trump -- so spare me

Ben Shapiro Can't Save The GOP | Dan From The Internet


What did you just call me? Are you serious? You want to go down to the gutter its fine with me.

#1) I am Jewish so your words are plain and simple WAR against me. Take it how you want to. I know fascism very well. You don't understand the operational definition even though I just provided a portion of it for you. So now I am a Jewish anti-semite? Are you kidding me?

#2) I am not a Republican. I am an Indendent. I think with logic. Something you lack. Same as courage, you lack that too.

#3) Ben Shapiro was an example I gave. The same group protested Bill Maher too.

#4) I find the Alt Right Republicans abhorrent. But I find you equally abhorrent.

With all due respect.

The Alt Right Republicans are a figment of the left's imagination. Don't believe the garbage you hear..including the garbage that labels them as *alt right*.
 
Nazis are those who proclaim themselves to be Nazis and those who do all they can to defend them and demonize anyone who opposes Nazis

Yes. But those who ignore your POV and violently protest against it. See Berkeley. Are Fascists.
No, those are not Nazis, and there are not fascists

Everyone's point of view isn't equal -- Nazis and their ideology has been soundly and righteously defeated time and time again -- they no longer get to claim their ideology should have equal space as those of us who support human dignity.

People at Berkeley who didn't want Ben Shapiro to speak are Fascists. Plain and simple. There is zero dispute over this. Unless you can explain to me their reasoning to deny him his first amendment rights and their fellow students at the University who wanted to hear him speak and perhaps debate him? Intollerance for the sake of intollerance is a form of fascism.
Then you don't know what fascism is...

you should also remember exactly who the 1a limits -- the government -- it doesn't guarantee you that other citizens won't take action against your BS covert racism -- and its funny you Trump cucks are all upset over Ben Shapiro -- since you same Trump cucks hurl plenty of Anti-Semitism at Ben for saying mean things about Trump -- so spare me

Ben Shapiro Can't Save The GOP | Dan From The Internet


What did you just call me? Are you serious? You want to go down to the gutter its fine with me.

#1) I am Jewish so your words are plain and simple WAR against me. Take it how you want to. I know fascism very well. You don't understand the operational definition even though I just provided a portion of it for you. So now I am a Jewish anti-semite? Are you kidding me?

#2) I am not a Republican. I am an Indendent. I think with logic. Something you lack. Same as courage, you lack that too.

#3) Ben Shapiro was an example I gave. The same group protested Bill Maher too.

#4) I find the Alt Right Republicans abhorrent. But I find you equally abhorrent.

With all due respect.

"I am not a Republican, I Am An Independent" -- is shit conservatives say to try to dodge accountability for backing BS policies for the past 20 years -- if you are trying to clutch your pearls over intellectually dishonest con artists like Shapiro -- yes, you are a republican.

And yes, I am calling you a cuck for Trump -- you being Jewish means nothing to me -- and no, I don't think you find the alt-right abhorrent -- I think you find them not staying on code abhorrent -- you very much prefer your bigotry to be more covert and focus-group tested.
 
Yes. But those who ignore your POV and violently protest against it. See Berkeley. Are Fascists.
No, those are not Nazis, and there are not fascists

Everyone's point of view isn't equal -- Nazis and their ideology has been soundly and righteously defeated time and time again -- they no longer get to claim their ideology should have equal space as those of us who support human dignity.

People at Berkeley who didn't want Ben Shapiro to speak are Fascists. Plain and simple. There is zero dispute over this. Unless you can explain to me their reasoning to deny him his first amendment rights and their fellow students at the University who wanted to hear him speak and perhaps debate him? Intollerance for the sake of intollerance is a form of fascism.
Then you don't know what fascism is...

you should also remember exactly who the 1a limits -- the government -- it doesn't guarantee you that other citizens won't take action against your BS covert racism -- and its funny you Trump cucks are all upset over Ben Shapiro -- since you same Trump cucks hurl plenty of Anti-Semitism at Ben for saying mean things about Trump -- so spare me

Ben Shapiro Can't Save The GOP | Dan From The Internet


What did you just call me? Are you serious? You want to go down to the gutter its fine with me.

#1) I am Jewish so your words are plain and simple WAR against me. Take it how you want to. I know fascism very well. You don't understand the operational definition even though I just provided a portion of it for you. So now I am a Jewish anti-semite? Are you kidding me?

#2) I am not a Republican. I am an Indendent. I think with logic. Something you lack. Same as courage, you lack that too.

#3) Ben Shapiro was an example I gave. The same group protested Bill Maher too.

#4) I find the Alt Right Republicans abhorrent. But I find you equally abhorrent.

With all due respect.

The Alt Right Republicans are a figment of the left's imagination. Don't believe the garbage you hear..including the garbage that labels them as *alt right*.


I've met them and seen them. They exist. Fortunately there aren't very many of them. The likes of David Duke are dying. Thankfully. But to me David Duke and Corey Booker are the same guy.
 
Yes. But those who ignore your POV and violently protest against it. See Berkeley. Are Fascists.
No, those are not Nazis, and there are not fascists

Everyone's point of view isn't equal -- Nazis and their ideology has been soundly and righteously defeated time and time again -- they no longer get to claim their ideology should have equal space as those of us who support human dignity.

People at Berkeley who didn't want Ben Shapiro to speak are Fascists. Plain and simple. There is zero dispute over this. Unless you can explain to me their reasoning to deny him his first amendment rights and their fellow students at the University who wanted to hear him speak and perhaps debate him? Intollerance for the sake of intollerance is a form of fascism.
Then you don't know what fascism is...

you should also remember exactly who the 1a limits -- the government -- it doesn't guarantee you that other citizens won't take action against your BS covert racism -- and its funny you Trump cucks are all upset over Ben Shapiro -- since you same Trump cucks hurl plenty of Anti-Semitism at Ben for saying mean things about Trump -- so spare me

Ben Shapiro Can't Save The GOP | Dan From The Internet


What did you just call me? Are you serious? You want to go down to the gutter its fine with me.

#1) I am Jewish so your words are plain and simple WAR against me. Take it how you want to. I know fascism very well. You don't understand the operational definition even though I just provided a portion of it for you. So now I am a Jewish anti-semite? Are you kidding me?

#2) I am not a Republican. I am an Indendent. I think with logic. Something you lack. Same as courage, you lack that too.

#3) Ben Shapiro was an example I gave. The same group protested Bill Maher too.

#4) I find the Alt Right Republicans abhorrent. But I find you equally abhorrent.

With all due respect.

"I am not a Republican, I Am An Independent" -- is shit conservatives say to try to dodge accountability for backing BS policies for the past 20 years -- if you are trying to clutch your pearls over intellectually dishonest con artists like Shapiro -- yes, you are a republican.

And yes, I am calling you a cuck for Trump -- you being Jewish means nothing to me -- and no, I don't think you find the alt-right abhorrent -- I think you find them not staying on code abhorrent -- you very much prefer your bigotry to be more covert and focus-group tested.


Your anger is delicious. Believe what you will but I am not a Republican. You ignore me being Jewish because it does not serve your suddenly stupid train of thought and agenda. I know it hurts. I am so sorry for your pain. The Nazis killed 90% of my ancestors. I don't hate anyone more than Nazis. Although you're making a strong run at it. Well done.

You are the case in point of fascism. I pointed out that people exaggerate over DJT "lies" and you quickly:

#1) Labeled me a cuck and a Republican
#2) Alt Right sympathizer
#3) Bigot

Thank you for proving without a shadow of a doubt that you are a dumbass, a fascist and a Leftist.
 
Behavior patterns have inevitable consequences.
Most people do want to recognize that fact.

Do you always just spout random idiocy? What does that have to do with your "fact is always propaganda" blah blah blah stupidity? Fucking focus. Or shut up.
Define propaganda.
Fuck you. You define propaganda.

I take that as you answering that yes, you do just spout random idiocy.

And that means you go on ignore. I advise everybody else to do the same. You actually suck the intelligence out of the room. You and that nitwit SomeGay are equally worthless.
I see we've graduated to homophobic insults. You're making stellar progress.

People who object to those who couch their objections to ideology based on the number of tenets they share with the nazi party should be listened to.

Have you ever heard the term *never forget*?

Leftists want us to forget, they demand we forget..and that's another way in which they represent nazis. Nazis also seized the narrative and declared it a *crime* to embrace any form of speech, including history, that did not support their ideology.

They called themselves socialists because that allowed them to dupe morons who would hop on board and kill anybody who dared to protest the supreme and murderous authority of the state.
We're not disagreeing here on those topics. We're disagreeing about methods.

Labels are prejudicial, otherwise there would be no need for them. And "nazi" is about the most prejudicial label there is. So you're going to label someone a Nazi off the bat, you're inherently saying "i don't want to talk, i don't want to discuss the pros and cons of ideas, i just want to destroy you." All it does is foster a divide, foster hate and foster isolation into "us v. them."

If i really wanted to change someone's mind on socialism, i'd ask them to tell me why they support it, then get into the specific reasons of why they do, explaining along the way that here's the repercussions of this and that and we can understand them by looking at the lessons of history which may or may not include nazi Germany. That's how you actually influence thought, not just firing labels at each other.
 
Nazis were socialists, they are left, not right

The National Socialist German Workers’ Party and say a Democratic Socialist such as Bernie Sanders or Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez had absolutely nothing in common. Nazis were first and foremost German White Nationalists. Learn something.

The assumption that because the word “socialist” appeared in the party’s name and socialist words and ideas popped up in the writings and speeches of top Nazis then the Nazis must have been actual socialists is naive and ahistorical. What the evidence shows, on the contrary, is that Nazi Party leaders paid mere lip service to socialist ideals on the way to achieving their one true goal: raw, totalitarian power.​

https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/09/05/were-nazis-socialists/

Socialism is an economic system. You're trying to conflate that with a political system. Socialism is a centrally managed economy. The Nazis were socialists, there's no way around that

Nay - They paid only lip service to socialism. Again, they were German White Nationalists with one true goal - "Raw totalitarian power"

Lip service, are you serious? The Nazis didn't really control the economy? Pick up a history book, idiot
 
Nazis were socialists, they are left, not right

The National Socialist German Workers’ Party and say a Democratic Socialist such as Bernie Sanders or Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez had absolutely nothing in common. Nazis were first and foremost German White Nationalists. Learn something.

The assumption that because the word “socialist” appeared in the party’s name and socialist words and ideas popped up in the writings and speeches of top Nazis then the Nazis must have been actual socialists is naive and ahistorical. What the evidence shows, on the contrary, is that Nazi Party leaders paid mere lip service to socialist ideals on the way to achieving their one true goal: raw, totalitarian power.​

https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/09/05/were-nazis-socialists/

They have nothing in common?

I call BS!

National Socialist Party of Germany (NAZI), quotes about Nazi:
We ask that government undertake the obligation above all of providing citizens with adequate opportunity for employment and earning a living. The activities of the individual must not be allowed to clash with the interests of the community, but must take place within the confines and be for the good of all. Therefore, we demand: ... an end to the power of financial interest. We demand profit sharing in big business. We demand a broad extension of care for the aged. We demand ... the greatest possible consideration of small business in the purchases of the national, state, and municipal governments. In order to make possible to every capable and industrious [citizen] the attainment of higher education and thus the achievement of a post of leadership, the government must provide an all-around enlargement of our system of public education.... We demand the education at government expense of gifted children of poor parents.... The government must undertake the improvement of public health -- by protecting mother and child, by prohibiting child labor -- by the greatest possible support for all groups concerned with the physical education of youth. [W]e combat the ... materialistic spirit within and without us, and are convinced that a permanent recovery of our people can only proceed from within on the foundation of The Common Good Before the Individual Good.


The only thing they may differ is in racism, but then, I hear many anti-white threads and comments from those on the Left so I'm not too sure about that either.

Even Maxine Waters embraces an openly racist black and the media and those in government don't seem to care

Racism isn't left or right. Either side can be racist, but they aren't being left or right when they do it
Both the left and the right's fringes right now are equally racist and prejudicial. The right against non-white people and the left against white people. So if someone is going to conflate "Fascism" with racial animus, both extremes have a pretty equal claim to it right now.

The left is racist on both sides. Their message to blacks, Latinos and other groups that you will be a Democrat or we will target you for destruction is completely racist
 
Nazis were socialists, they are left, not right

The National Socialist German Workers’ Party and say a Democratic Socialist such as Bernie Sanders or Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez had absolutely nothing in common. Nazis were first and foremost German White Nationalists. Learn something.

The assumption that because the word “socialist” appeared in the party’s name and socialist words and ideas popped up in the writings and speeches of top Nazis then the Nazis must have been actual socialists is naive and ahistorical. What the evidence shows, on the contrary, is that Nazi Party leaders paid mere lip service to socialist ideals on the way to achieving their one true goal: raw, totalitarian power.​

https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/09/05/were-nazis-socialists/

They have nothing in common?

I call BS!

National Socialist Party of Germany (NAZI), quotes about Nazi:
We ask that government undertake the obligation above all of providing citizens with adequate opportunity for employment and earning a living. The activities of the individual must not be allowed to clash with the interests of the community, but must take place within the confines and be for the good of all. Therefore, we demand: ... an end to the power of financial interest. We demand profit sharing in big business. We demand a broad extension of care for the aged. We demand ... the greatest possible consideration of small business in the purchases of the national, state, and municipal governments. In order to make possible to every capable and industrious [citizen] the attainment of higher education and thus the achievement of a post of leadership, the government must provide an all-around enlargement of our system of public education.... We demand the education at government expense of gifted children of poor parents.... The government must undertake the improvement of public health -- by protecting mother and child, by prohibiting child labor -- by the greatest possible support for all groups concerned with the physical education of youth. [W]e combat the ... materialistic spirit within and without us, and are convinced that a permanent recovery of our people can only proceed from within on the foundation of The Common Good Before the Individual Good.


The only thing they may differ is in racism, but then, I hear many anti-white threads and comments from those on the Left so I'm not too sure about that either.

Even Maxine Waters embraces an openly racist black and the media and those in government don't seem to care

Racism isn't left or right. Either side can be racist, but they aren't being left or right when they do it
Both the left and the right's fringes right now are equally racist and prejudicial. The right against non-white people and the left against white people. So if someone is going to conflate "Fascism" with racial animus, both extremes have a pretty equal claim to it right now.
The Right loves Gold, Silver and Green.

To want to keep the money you earned is greedy. To want to take money with guns that you didn't earn is not greedy. Just more of your typical idiotic leftist dogma
 
Nazis are those who proclaim themselves to be Nazis and those who do all they can to defend them and demonize anyone who opposes Nazis

Calling people names is meaningless.

For example, it used to be that the Left went by the term "liberal". Terms like "Socialist" were seen negatively, so if you were a socialist, you just ran as a "liberal". However, when the term "liberal" fell out of favor due to their reputation they changed the term to "Progressive"

Today, they are testing the term "socialist" in order to escape the term "Progressive" that is now falling out of favor due to policy failures.

However, the term "Nazi" continues to be seen negatively, and hopefully that never changes unless education fails to accurately tells people about them. So as a result, no one will claim the term. It will only be used to bash opponents.
 
Fascism is nothing more than national socialism.
You partisans and your constant bullshit bickering is getting so goddamn old...
"fascism is left wing"
"fascism is right wing you NAZI fuck!!"
Who gives a shit either way? Its fucking tyranny REGARDLESS

Well Harley - I'd put it this way -
Not all Trump voters are racist, xenophobic, jerks ...
But all racist, xenophobic jerks voted for Trump

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Most CEOs and leaders are narcissit sociopaths. Steve Jobs, Jack Welch, Bill Gates, Jamie Dimon...that is how they become successful CEOs. Research it. Doesn't mean they don't want what is best for their company.

Indeed!

Large corporations are like mini collectivist governments. They are the fuel of governments all around the globe and the catalysts for globalization.

Just look at how corporations like Facebook censor conservative talk.

They are trying to help achieve total globalization.
But we overtax corporations in America according to conservative dogma.

Taxation is a drag on the economy, I don't think anyone disputes that.

However, is focusing on only corporations the best approach?

Most jobs are created via small business. Unfortunately, small business does not pay as much to politicians so they get ignored.

As a result, what would help the economy most, stimulating small business, will never get done.

As a rule though, lower taxes for everyone should also help small business in some form or fashion.
 
Fascism is nothing more than national socialism.
You partisans and your constant bullshit bickering is getting so goddamn old...
"fascism is left wing"
"fascism is right wing you NAZI fuck!!"
Who gives a shit either way? Its fucking tyranny REGARDLESS

Well Harley - I'd put it this way -
Not all Trump voters are racist, xenophobic, jerks ...
But all racist, xenophobic jerks voted for Trump

1822an.jpg

Most CEOs and leaders are narcissit sociopaths. Steve Jobs, Jack Welch, Bill Gates, Jamie Dimon...that is how they become successful CEOs. Research it. Doesn't mean they don't want what is best for their company.

Indeed!

Large corporations are like mini collectivist governments. They are the fuel of governments all around the globe and the catalysts for globalization.

Just look at how corporations like Facebook censor conservative talk.

They are trying to help achieve total globalization.
But we overtax corporations in America according to conservative dogma.

Taxation is a drag on the economy, I don't think anyone disputes that.

However, is focusing on only corporations the best approach?

Most jobs are created via small business. Unfortunately, small business does not pay as much to politicians so they get ignored.

As a result, what would help the economy most, stimulating small business, will never get done.

As a rule though, lower taxes for everyone should also help small business in some form or fashion.
Lower taxes on corporations leaves them with more money to dominate the planet.
 
Nazis were socialists, they are left, not right

The National Socialist German Workers’ Party and say a Democratic Socialist such as Bernie Sanders or Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez had absolutely nothing in common. Nazis were first and foremost German White Nationalists. Learn something.

The assumption that because the word “socialist” appeared in the party’s name and socialist words and ideas popped up in the writings and speeches of top Nazis then the Nazis must have been actual socialists is naive and ahistorical. What the evidence shows, on the contrary, is that Nazi Party leaders paid mere lip service to socialist ideals on the way to achieving their one true goal: raw, totalitarian power.​

https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/09/05/were-nazis-socialists/

They have nothing in common?

I call BS!

National Socialist Party of Germany (NAZI), quotes about Nazi:
We ask that government undertake the obligation above all of providing citizens with adequate opportunity for employment and earning a living. The activities of the individual must not be allowed to clash with the interests of the community, but must take place within the confines and be for the good of all. Therefore, we demand: ... an end to the power of financial interest. We demand profit sharing in big business. We demand a broad extension of care for the aged. We demand ... the greatest possible consideration of small business in the purchases of the national, state, and municipal governments. In order to make possible to every capable and industrious [citizen] the attainment of higher education and thus the achievement of a post of leadership, the government must provide an all-around enlargement of our system of public education.... We demand the education at government expense of gifted children of poor parents.... The government must undertake the improvement of public health -- by protecting mother and child, by prohibiting child labor -- by the greatest possible support for all groups concerned with the physical education of youth. [W]e combat the ... materialistic spirit within and without us, and are convinced that a permanent recovery of our people can only proceed from within on the foundation of The Common Good Before the Individual Good.


The only thing they may differ is in racism, but then, I hear many anti-white threads and comments from those on the Left so I'm not too sure about that either.

Even Maxine Waters embraces an openly racist black and the media and those in government don't seem to care

Racism isn't left or right. Either side can be racist, but they aren't being left or right when they do it
Both the left and the right's fringes right now are equally racist and prejudicial. The right against non-white people and the left against white people. So if someone is going to conflate "Fascism" with racial animus, both extremes have a pretty equal claim to it right now.

The left is racist on both sides. Their message to blacks, Latinos and other groups that you will be a Democrat or we will target you for destruction is completely racist
When talking about extremes, i think their racism is pretty well laid bare. The right wants non-whites to be subjugated or removed by government force. The left wants whites to be subjugated or removed by government force. There's not a lot of ambiguity in there.

However, i would say that the racism of low expectations is more prevalent on the left. The mere thought of "this group needs me to fight for them/take care them/represent them because they can't" should say enough right there. But you see it in things like requiring an ID to vote because "black people don't have IDs like we do" and such like that. There's some sentiment in there that goes beyond pure statistics and into a feeling of superiority that manifests in feeling like you need to be someone's parent or advocate rather than ally.
 
Well Harley - I'd put it this way -
Not all Trump voters are racist, xenophobic, jerks ...
But all racist, xenophobic jerks voted for Trump

1822an.jpg

Most CEOs and leaders are narcissit sociopaths. Steve Jobs, Jack Welch, Bill Gates, Jamie Dimon...that is how they become successful CEOs. Research it. Doesn't mean they don't want what is best for their company.

Indeed!

Large corporations are like mini collectivist governments. They are the fuel of governments all around the globe and the catalysts for globalization.

Just look at how corporations like Facebook censor conservative talk.

They are trying to help achieve total globalization.
But we overtax corporations in America according to conservative dogma.

Taxation is a drag on the economy, I don't think anyone disputes that.

However, is focusing on only corporations the best approach?

Most jobs are created via small business. Unfortunately, small business does not pay as much to politicians so they get ignored.

As a result, what would help the economy most, stimulating small business, will never get done.

As a rule though, lower taxes for everyone should also help small business in some form or fashion.
Lower taxes on corporations leaves them with more money to dominate the planet.

The corporate model is a government construct, but Left wingers tend not to either know this or ignore it and blindly support government over corporations.

In reality though, the Boston Tea party was a protest against corporate control by a British corporation. Most think it is over a higher tax on tea, but the exact opposite is true.

Taxes actually went down on tea, so the issue was control.
 

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