Who are the real Nazis?

[kaz]

I wasn't talking about history, I was talking about economics, moron.

Which shows that your ignorance of economics is unparalleled ..

Economics doesn't have a history, bozo?

I don't know what that means, but then neither do you.

Hitler and Stalin were both socialists, which is far left. You can't alternative fact your way out of that

Hitler set out to destroy left socialism. He rejected the internationalism associated with it. Everything he did was designed to improve the German State. He crushed the communists, attacked the labor unions and privatized the State owned enterprise. That is not your typical left wing socialist.

Where do you get the idea that being leftists makes you allies? There is no reason to believe that two groups who want to centrally manage an economy want to do it exactly the same way.

But Hitler and Stalin both ruthlessly controlled the economy. It was left versus left

Liberalism is historically left wing. The concept of right and left developed out of the parliamentary relationship in France during the French revolution.

What do you think monarchy is, right or left?

Monarchy is a political system. Socialism is an economic system

 

[kaz]

Hitler and Stalin were both leftist socialists, dumb ass. Government controlled the economy, that is socialism which is far left.

Racism isn't right or left, that's just you being a dick.

And nothing is more authoritarian than left wing socialism.

Democrats in your typical leftist style are the ones trying to shut down debate and opposition in this country like you do everywhere as you take power

Hitler was a right wing socialist. His top priority after gaining control of the DAP was to destroy the left wing socialists.

These Trumptards write their own history books. Everything good = RWNJs like them and Everything bad = Lib-ruls.
And if they don't know the political leanings of someone who did something bad? It's a "LIB-RUL" or worse - "GAY LIB-RUL!!"
It's all black and white but make it up as you go to fill in the blanks.

It's a big problem because it discourages having a rational conversation. It's all driven by emotion. Which btw, was another feature of Nazism.

That's funny. Still playing the leftist game of accusing others of what you do.

You'll never live this gem down. "Right wing socialism." You really are that stupid.

And take your hands out of each other's pants or get a room

Also known as Paternalistic Conservatism - Learn something:

Conservative or right-wing socialism is a term used by some right-wing movements and politicians to describe support for social solidarity as opposed to individualism, commercialism, and laissez-faire economics. The term is also used, more commonly but distinctly, to refer to moderate, social democratic forms of socialism when contrasted with Marxism–Leninism and other more radical left-wing alternatives.
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Right-wing socialism

That you can find a term on the internet doesn't prove shit.

And note it even says that it's used by people who call themselves "right" to describe themselves. You're doublespeak quoting doublespeak.

Socialism is an economic system. It's the far left economic system where industry is controlled by government as both the Nazis and Stalinist practiced.

You're just trying to redefine words to make some stupid political point

 

[DrLove]

Hitler was a right wing socialist. His top priority after gaining control of the DAP was to destroy the left wing socialists.

These Trumptards write their own history books. Everything good = RWNJs like them and Everything bad = Lib-ruls.
And if they don't know the political leanings of someone who did something bad? It's a "LIB-RUL" or worse - "GAY LIB-RUL!!"
It's all black and white but make it up as you go to fill in the blanks.

It's a big problem because it discourages having a rational conversation. It's all driven by emotion. Which btw, was another feature of Nazism.

That's funny. Still playing the leftist game of accusing others of what you do.

You'll never live this gem down. "Right wing socialism." You really are that stupid.

And take your hands out of each other's pants or get a room

Also known as Paternalistic Conservatism - Learn something:

Conservative or right-wing socialism is a term used by some right-wing movements and politicians to describe support for social solidarity as opposed to individualism, commercialism, and laissez-faire economics. The term is also used, more commonly but distinctly, to refer to moderate, social democratic forms of socialism when contrasted with Marxism–Leninism and other more radical left-wing alternatives.
​

Right-wing socialism

That you can find a term on the internet doesn't prove shit.

And note it even says that it's used by people who call themselves "right" to describe themselves. You're doublespeak quoting doublespeak.

Socialism is an economic system. It's the far left economic system where industry is controlled by government as both the Nazis and Stalinist practiced.

You're just trying to redefine words to make some stupid political point

And you're a waste of a debate

 

[dudmuck]

This is the true meaning of the terms.

Unfortunately the ruling class has seen fit to utterly destroy the ability to have a rational discussion on such things.

The concept of right and left has been turned on its head, at least in America.

Socialism is central (i.e,. government) control of the economy and that is left. You're the bozos engaging in double speak trying to deny that

Your ignorance of history is unparalleled.

I wasn't talking about history, I was talking about economics, moron.

Which shows that your ignorance of economics is unparalleled ..

Economics doesn't have a history, bozo?

I don't know what that means, but then neither do you.

Hitler and Stalin were both socialists, which is far left. You can't alternative fact your way out of that

Hitler imprisoned socialists.
Originally Dachau imprisoned German communists and socialists. . More is described here.
But more importantly, the return on capital increased under the nazis. Actually capitalism was doing better under the nazis than it was under FDR at the same time period.

 

[koshergrl]

I don't know what that means, but then neither do you.

Economics and economic theory have not remained the same throughout the course of history. What is so difficult about that?

Nothing, but that isn't the gobbldygook you said before.

There are differences, but centrally managed economies are left. You can't redefine words

That doesn't stop them from doing it.

 

[koshergrl]

Socialism is central (i.e,. government) control of the economy and that is left. You're the bozos engaging in double speak trying to deny that

Your ignorance of history is unparalleled.

I wasn't talking about history, I was talking about economics, moron.

Which shows that your ignorance of economics is unparalleled ..

Economics doesn't have a history, bozo?

I don't know what that means, but then neither do you.

Hitler and Stalin were both socialists, which is far left. You can't alternative fact your way out of that

Hitler imprisoned socialists.
Originally Dachau imprisoned German communists and socialists. . More is described here.
But more importantly, the return on capital increased under the nazis. Actually capitalism was doing better under the nazis than it was under FDR at the same time period.

So?

 

[Tehon]

Economics doesn't have a history, bozo?

I don't know what that means, but then neither do you.

Hitler and Stalin were both socialists, which is far left. You can't alternative fact your way out of that

Hitler set out to destroy left socialism. He rejected the internationalism associated with it. Everything he did was designed to improve the German State. He crushed the communists, attacked the labor unions and privatized the State owned enterprise. That is not your typical left wing socialist.

Where do you get the idea that being leftists makes you allies? There is no reason to believe that two groups who want to centrally manage an economy want to do it exactly the same way.

But Hitler and Stalin both ruthlessly controlled the economy. It was left versus left

Liberalism is historically left wing. The concept of right and left developed out of the parliamentary relationship in France during the French revolution.

What do you think monarchy is, right or left?

Monarchy is a political system. Socialism is an economic system

It is politics that interferes with markets.

Monarchy is authoritarian, is it right or left?

 

[koshergrl]

Democrats haven't changed at all.

 

[dudmuck]

Your ignorance of history is unparalleled.

I wasn't talking about history, I was talking about economics, moron.

Which shows that your ignorance of economics is unparalleled ..

Economics doesn't have a history, bozo?

I don't know what that means, but then neither do you.

Hitler and Stalin were both socialists, which is far left. You can't alternative fact your way out of that

Hitler imprisoned socialists.
Originally Dachau imprisoned German communists and socialists. . More is described here.
But more importantly, the return on capital increased under the nazis. Actually capitalism was doing better under the nazis than it was under FDR at the same time period.

So?

The point is that Hitler was right wing, far right.

 

[koshergrl]

I wasn't talking about history, I was talking about economics, moron.

Which shows that your ignorance of economics is unparalleled ..

Economics doesn't have a history, bozo?

I don't know what that means, but then neither do you.

Hitler and Stalin were both socialists, which is far left. You can't alternative fact your way out of that

Hitler imprisoned socialists.
Originally Dachau imprisoned German communists and socialists. . More is described here.
But more importantly, the return on capital increased under the nazis. Actually capitalism was doing better under the nazis than it was under FDR at the same time period.

So?

The point is that Hitler was right wing, far right.

Nope.

Leftists.

 

[koshergrl]

Which side is burning books? Progressives

Which side used government surveillance against their "enemies"? Progressives again

Which side was goose stepping and said failing to vote Hillary was sedition? Jake

Nazis believed in:

1. state before all
2. state control of the economy
3. environementalism
4. nationalized schooling
5. state funded and mandated eugenics

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I wasn't talking about history, I was talking about economics, moron.

Which shows that your ignorance of economics is unparalleled ..

Economics doesn't have a history, bozo?

I don't know what that means, but then neither do you.

Hitler and Stalin were both socialists, which is far left. You can't alternative fact your way out of that

Hitler imprisoned socialists.
Originally Dachau imprisoned German communists and socialists. . More is described here.
But more importantly, the return on capital increased under the nazis. Actually capitalism was doing better under the nazis than it was under FDR at the same time period.

So?

The point is that Hitler was right wing, far right.

Socialism, state control is Left wing. Are you saying Hitler embraced individual right and liberties?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

This is the true meaning of the terms.

Unfortunately the ruling class has seen fit to utterly destroy the ability to have a rational discussion on such things.

The concept of right and left has been turned on its head, at least in America.

Socialism is central (i.e,. government) control of the economy and that is left. You're the bozos engaging in double speak trying to deny that

Your ignorance of history is unparalleled.

I wasn't talking about history, I was talking about economics, moron.

Which shows that your ignorance of economics is unparalleled ..

Economics doesn't have a history, bozo?

I don't know what that means, but then neither do you.

Hitler and Stalin were both socialists, which is far left. You can't alternative fact your way out of that

Cutting regulations is Liberalism by classical definitions, while Authoritarianism is Right-Wing by classical definitions.

Socialism is Authoritarian, and anti-Liberalism in the sense they increase regulation.

Americans have a very, very poor grasp of politics, both in terms of political spectrum, and political implications.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Nazis were Fascists - Fascists are defined as "far right wing/ authoritarian".
Other than gun control, Trumptards come closest.

Nazis were socialists, they are left, not right

Stalin was more for Hierarchy, Right-Wing Authoritarian values, and even perhaps Social Conservative values than modern Republicans, or modern Democrats.

The truth is Stalin's far to the right of the modern U.S.A.

I discussed this below.

Communism more right wing than Capitalism?

Capitalism actually is what sold us out to Liberalism, Hollywood Industry, Media, Porn industry, Music industry promoting Gangster Rap Music, the Medical industry promoting Abortions, it's all Capitalism.

You're full of shit. Stalin was a classic socialist leftist

Stalin was only a Leftist compared to Hitler, and some of Hitler's friends, compared to most Stalin's Right-Wing, he was Authoritarian, he was for ethnic deportations, (Nationalism / Ethnocentrism) Abortion was made illegal under Stalin.

That's all to the Right of our society, big time.

Hitler and Stalin were both leftist socialists, dumb ass. Government controlled the economy, that is socialism which is far left.

Racism isn't right or left, that's just you being a dick.

And nothing is more authoritarian than left wing socialism.

Democrats in your typical leftist style are the ones trying to shut down debate and opposition in this country like you do everywhere as you take power

Authoritarianism, Hierarchy, an Racism are all Right-Wing values.

America has two Liberal Individualist parties.

There's no real Right-Wing party in the U.S.A, which is why the U.S.A is plagued by Liberalism.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Economics doesn't have a history, bozo?

I don't know what that means, but then neither do you.

Hitler and Stalin were both socialists, which is far left. You can't alternative fact your way out of that

Hitler imprisoned socialists.
Originally Dachau imprisoned German communists and socialists. . More is described here.
But more importantly, the return on capital increased under the nazis. Actually capitalism was doing better under the nazis than it was under FDR at the same time period.

So?

The point is that Hitler was right wing, far right.

Socialism, state control is Left wing. Are you saying Hitler embraced individual right and liberties?

Individualism is Left-Wing Liberalism.

It's such a shame that Americans have been so brainwashed into idiocy, and wrong information.

 

[koshergrl]

Economics doesn't have a history, bozo?

I don't know what that means, but then neither do you.

Hitler and Stalin were both socialists, which is far left. You can't alternative fact your way out of that

Hitler imprisoned socialists.
Originally Dachau imprisoned German communists and socialists. . More is described here.
But more importantly, the return on capital increased under the nazis. Actually capitalism was doing better under the nazis than it was under FDR at the same time period.

So?

The point is that Hitler was right wing, far right.

Socialism, state control is Left wing. Are you saying Hitler embraced individual right and liberties?

These idiots maintain that capitalism/prosperity = nazism.

It's stupid, and proves the point that in reality, they are nazis themselves.

When Americans say "Make America Great Again" they are referencing the reduction of government, in order that individuals may thrive.

When nazis say "We must make Germany Great!" they are calling for a larger government presence in individual lives and across the globe.

Two different things.

*Make America Great* = removal of government control
*Make Nazi Germany Great* = increased government control.

But as with everything else, they have been fed a lie and have internalized it. Like the good little nazis they are.

 

[koshergrl]

Socialism is central (i.e,. government) control of the economy and that is left. You're the bozos engaging in double speak trying to deny that

Your ignorance of history is unparalleled.

I wasn't talking about history, I was talking about economics, moron.

Which shows that your ignorance of economics is unparalleled ..

Economics doesn't have a history, bozo?

I don't know what that means, but then neither do you.

Hitler and Stalin were both socialists, which is far left. You can't alternative fact your way out of that

Cutting regulations is Liberalism by classical definitions, while Authoritarianism is Right-Wing by classical definitions.

Socialism is Authoritarian, and anti-Liberalism in the sense they increase regulation.

Americans have a very, very poor grasp of politics, both in terms of political spectrum, and political implications.

yeah, that's why America is such a huge failure.
Cuz Americans are dumb about politics.

In truth, the only dumb people politically are the huge population of brainwashed leftists that the left has produced.

 

[kaz]

These Trumptards write their own history books. Everything good = RWNJs like them and Everything bad = Lib-ruls.
And if they don't know the political leanings of someone who did something bad? It's a "LIB-RUL" or worse - "GAY LIB-RUL!!"
It's all black and white but make it up as you go to fill in the blanks.

It's a big problem because it discourages having a rational conversation. It's all driven by emotion. Which btw, was another feature of Nazism.

That's funny. Still playing the leftist game of accusing others of what you do.

You'll never live this gem down. "Right wing socialism." You really are that stupid.

And take your hands out of each other's pants or get a room

Also known as Paternalistic Conservatism - Learn something:

Conservative or right-wing socialism is a term used by some right-wing movements and politicians to describe support for social solidarity as opposed to individualism, commercialism, and laissez-faire economics. The term is also used, more commonly but distinctly, to refer to moderate, social democratic forms of socialism when contrasted with Marxism–Leninism and other more radical left-wing alternatives.
​

Right-wing socialism

That you can find a term on the internet doesn't prove shit.

And note it even says that it's used by people who call themselves "right" to describe themselves. You're doublespeak quoting doublespeak.

Socialism is an economic system. It's the far left economic system where industry is controlled by government as both the Nazis and Stalinist practiced.

You're just trying to redefine words to make some stupid political point

And you're a waste of a debate

You're arguing that socialists can be right wing. The clueless idiot is clearly you

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Nazis were Fascists - Fascists are defined as "far right wing/ authoritarian".

As defined by communist leaning leftists.

Nazis are NOT right-wing. National Socialism is another form of SOCIALISM. Spin all you want but that's what it is.

 

[DrLove]

You're arguing that socialists can be right wing. The clueless idiot is clearly you

No, my argument is that the term "socialist" in the party name National Socialist German Workers’ Party had an entirely different meaning.
Nazis were first and foremost extreme right wing, hyper-nationalist and authoritarian.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/09/05/were-nazis-socialists/

Now shoo fly