Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2

[Hollie]

Looking a bit deeper into the NGO's Islamic terrorist front groups designated as such by Israel, the high-pitched screeching from the expected sources looks to be so much islamo-whining.

Israel cracks down on tax-deductible terrorism - Washington Examiner

On Oct. 22, 2021, Israeli Defense Minister Benny Gantz announced that Jerusalem was designating six Palestinian nongovernmental organizations as terrorist organizations. Gantz’s announcement was decried by Michigan Rep. Rashida Tlaib, a liberal Democrat, and the usual anti-Israel voices in...

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On Oct. 22, 2021, Israeli Defense Minister Benny Gantz announced that Jerusalem was designating six Palestinian nongovernmental organizations as terrorist organizations.


Gantz’s announcement was decried by Michigan Rep. Rashida Tlaib, a liberal Democrat, and the usual anti-Israel voices in Congress. It has even been questioned by some Biden administration officials, most notably at the State Department. But the evidence suggests that the designations are justified.

There is a long history of links between shady nonprofit organizations and Palestinian terrorist groups. Gantz asserted that the NGOs in question — Al-Haq, Addameer, Defense for Children International-Palestine, the Bisan Center for Research and Development, the Union of Palestinian Women’s Committees, and the Union of Agricultural Work Committees — have been "active under the cover of civil-society organizations, but in practice belong to and constitute an arm of 'the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP).'"

 

[Hollie]

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The usual suspects were there.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Looking a bit deeper into the NGO's Islamic terrorist front groups designated as such by Israel, the high-pitched screeching from the expected sources looks to be so much islamo-whining.

Israel cracks down on tax-deductible terrorism - Washington Examiner

On Oct. 22, 2021, Israeli Defense Minister Benny Gantz announced that Jerusalem was designating six Palestinian nongovernmental organizations as terrorist organizations. Gantz’s announcement was decried by Michigan Rep. Rashida Tlaib, a liberal Democrat, and the usual anti-Israel voices in...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

On Oct. 22, 2021, Israeli Defense Minister Benny Gantz announced that Jerusalem was designating six Palestinian nongovernmental organizations as terrorist organizations.


Gantz’s announcement was decried by Michigan Rep. Rashida Tlaib, a liberal Democrat, and the usual anti-Israel voices in Congress. It has even been questioned by some Biden administration officials, most notably at the State Department. But the evidence suggests that the designations are justified.

There is a long history of links between shady nonprofit organizations and Palestinian terrorist groups. Gantz asserted that the NGOs in question — Al-Haq, Addameer, Defense for Children International-Palestine, the Bisan Center for Research and Development, the Union of Palestinian Women’s Committees, and the Union of Agricultural Work Committees — have been "active under the cover of civil-society organizations, but in practice belong to and constitute an arm of 'the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP).'"

Load of hooey.

This is just part of Israel's bullshit terrorist propaganda campaign.

 

[Hollie]

Load of hooey.

This is just part of Israel's bullshit terrorist propaganda campaign.

Nothing to do with Israel. You just reflexively cut and paste your usual slogans, righf?

 

[Hollie]

And on it goes. Endless international welfare that rewards Islamic terrorism.

 

[Hollie]

Uh oh. There’s a disagreement taking place in the “country of Pal’istan” involving those in the province of Abbas’istan vs. those in Gaza’istan.

Let’s hope these fine folks can work out their differences in the spirit of stealing more welfare money.

Hamas: PA obstructing Gaza reconstruction

The PA insists that its Ramallah-based government be in charge of the reconstruction, including the funds channeled by various countries and international parties.

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Hamas: PA obstructing Gaza reconstruction​

By KHALED ABU TOAMEH
JUNE 27, 2021 17:54

The PA insists that its Ramallah-based government be in charge of the reconstruction, including the funds channeled by various countries and international parties.

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[Hollie]

 

[Hollie]

Pally terrorists are rockin' the house with a new song.

They're willing to kill without limit, and willing to slaughter their own children in furtherance of their politico-religious ideology.

“Bullets and gunpowder are the source of pride” of the homeland – song on official PA TV | PMW Analysis

As an introduction to a report on imprisoned terrorists from the town of Bita, official PA TV played part of a song glorifying the “uprising” for the “homeland” and the use of “bullets and gunpowder” against Israel

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“Bullets and gunpowder are the source of pride” of the homeland – song on official PA TV​

Nan Jacques Zilberdik | Oct 29, 2021
As an introduction to a report on imprisoned terrorists from the town of Bita, official PA TV played part of a song glorifying the “uprising” for the “homeland” and the use of “bullets and gunpowder” against Israel:

Lyrics: “Your people have risen up, O homeland, risen up
Your people have risen up, homeland, risen up
Its bullets and gunpowder are the source of its pride”
[Official PA TV, Giants of Endurance, Oct. 14, 2021]

 

[Hollie]

There is purported to be an “embassy”, apparently something representing the dictatorship of Abbas, in Tunisia.

Just guessing, but this shrine to Mahmoud Abbas likely has working, indoor plumbing and an electrical supply to power lights.

As one might expect, the shrine depicts a map without reference to Israel, just another Arab-Moslem paradise, this one surviving on welfare handouts from the international community.

New PA embassy in Tunisia displays huge map of “Palestine” erasing Israel | PMW Analysis

The message of the map is, of course, that Israel has no right to exist and that the goal of the PA is sovereignty over the entire area.

www.palwatch.org

New PA embassy in Tunisia displays huge map of “Palestine” erasing Israel​

Nan Jacques Zilberdik | Oct 31, 2021

According to “direct orders and instructions” from PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas, the PA has established over 100 Palestinian embassies around the world. [Official PA TV News, Oct. 23, 2021]

One such embassy is located in Tunisia. When staff and visitors arrive they are met with a huge monument with the PA’s map of “Palestine” – the version that erases all of Israel:

[Official PA daily Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, Oct. 23, 2021]

 

[P F Tinmore]

There is purported to be an “embassy”, apparently something representing the dictatorship of Abbas, in Tunisia.

Just guessing, but this shrine to Mahmoud Abbas likely has working, indoor plumbing and an electrical supply to power lights.

As one might expect, the shrine depicts a map without reference to Israel, just another Arab-Moslem paradise, this one surviving on welfare handouts from the international community.

New PA embassy in Tunisia displays huge map of “Palestine” erasing Israel | PMW Analysis

The message of the map is, of course, that Israel has no right to exist and that the goal of the PA is sovereignty over the entire area.

www.palwatch.org

New PA embassy in Tunisia displays huge map of “Palestine” erasing Israel​

Nan Jacques Zilberdik | Oct 31, 2021

According to “direct orders and instructions” from PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas, the PA has established over 100 Palestinian embassies around the world. [Official PA TV News, Oct. 23, 2021]

One such embassy is located in Tunisia. When staff and visitors arrive they are met with a huge monument with the PA’s map of “Palestine” – the version that erases all of Israel:

[Official PA daily Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, Oct. 23, 2021]

Israel doesn't have borders. How can you put it on a map?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Israel doesn't have borders. How can you put it on a map?

It has at least a couple more borders than Palestine.

 

[Hollie]

Israel doesn't have borders. How can you put it on a map?

Contrary to what’s taught at your madrassah, ignorance is not a virtue.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: Clarification
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: You must think we all have very poor memories.

Israel doesn't have borders. How can you put it on a map?

(COMMENT)
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◈ Israeli-Palestinian Interim Agreement Oslo II (1995) Map 6 •
◈ Basic Law: Jerusalem, Capital of Israel •
◈ Golan Heights Law •
◈ Egypt and Israel Treaty of Peace w/MAP (1979) •
◈ Jordan-Israeli Peace Treaty (1994) •
◈ Letter dated 12 June 2000 from the Permanent Representative of Lebanon •

Area "C" and Settlements

5. For the purpose of this Agreement, "the Settlements" means, in the West Bank - the settlements in Area C; and in the Gaza Strip - the Gush Katif and Erez settlement areas, as well as the other settlements in the Gaza Strip, as shown on attached map No. 2.

(8) Further redeployments from Area C and transfer of internal security responsibility to the Palestinian Police in Areas B and C will be carried out in three phases each to take place after an interval of six months, to be completed 18 months after the inauguration of the Council, except for the issues of permanent status negotiations and of Israel's overall responsibility for Israelis and borders.

The territorial jurisdiction of the Council shall encompass Gaza Strip territory, except for the Settlements and the Military Installation Area shown on map No. 2, and West Bank territory, except for Area C which, except for the issues that will be negotiated in the permanent status negotiations, will be gradually transferred to Palestinian jurisdiction in three phases, each to take place after an interval of six months, to be completed 18 months after the inauguration of the Council. At this time, the jurisdiction of the Council will cover West Bank and Gaza Strip territory, except for the issues that will be negotiated in the permanent status negotiations.

Notwithstanding subparagraph a. above, the Council shall have functional jurisdiction in Area C, as detailed in Article IV of Annex III.

c. In Area C, during the first phase of redeployment Israel will transfer to the Council civil powers and responsibilities not relating to territory, as set out in Annex III.

c. "Area C" means areas of the West Bank outside Areas A and B, which, except for the issues that will be negotiated in the permanent status negotiations, will be gradually transferred to Palestinian jurisdiction in accordance with this Agreement.
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Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: Clarification
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: You must think we all have very poor memories.


(COMMENT)
.
◈ Israeli-Palestinian Interim Agreement Oslo II (1995) Map 6 •
◈ Basic Law: Jerusalem, Capital of Israel •
◈ Golan Heights Law •
◈ Egypt and Israel Treaty of Peace w/MAP (1979) •
◈ Jordan-Israeli Peace Treaty (1994) •
◈ Letter dated 12 June 2000 from the Permanent Representative of Lebanon •

Area "C" and Settlements

5. For the purpose of this Agreement, "the Settlements" means, in the West Bank - the settlements in Area C; and in the Gaza Strip - the Gush Katif and Erez settlement areas, as well as the other settlements in the Gaza Strip, as shown on attached map No. 2.

(8) Further redeployments from Area C and transfer of internal security responsibility to the Palestinian Police in Areas B and C will be carried out in three phases each to take place after an interval of six months, to be completed 18 months after the inauguration of the Council, except for the issues of permanent status negotiations and of Israel's overall responsibility for Israelis and borders.

The territorial jurisdiction of the Council shall encompass Gaza Strip territory, except for the Settlements and the Military Installation Area shown on map No. 2, and West Bank territory, except for Area C which, except for the issues that will be negotiated in the permanent status negotiations, will be gradually transferred to Palestinian jurisdiction in three phases, each to take place after an interval of six months, to be completed 18 months after the inauguration of the Council. At this time, the jurisdiction of the Council will cover West Bank and Gaza Strip territory, except for the issues that will be negotiated in the permanent status negotiations.

Notwithstanding subparagraph a. above, the Council shall have functional jurisdiction in Area C, as detailed in Article IV of Annex III.

c. In Area C, during the first phase of redeployment Israel will transfer to the Council civil powers and responsibilities not relating to territory, as set out in Annex III.

c. "Area C" means areas of the West Bank outside Areas A and B, which, except for the issues that will be negotiated in the permanent status negotiations, will be gradually transferred to Palestinian jurisdiction in accordance with this Agreement.
.

Most Respectfully,
R

There has never been a borfer agreement with Palestine.

 

[Mindful]

According to the ever-reliable Abu Ali Express Telegram Channel, young Gazans began gathering and throwing stones at men in IDF uniforms who were driving Jeeps inside the Gaza Strip.

There was just one problem: those jeep-driving men in IDF uniforms were Gazan actors filming a movie!

Gazans Attack Actors Dressed as IDF Soldiers

According to the Abu Ali Express Telegram Channel, young Gazans began gathering and throwing stones at men in IDF uniforms

www.israellycool.com

 

[Hollie]

There has never been a borfer agreement with Palestine.

There is no sovereign entity called 'Pal'istan'.

 

[Mindful]

There is no sovereign entity called 'Pal'istan'.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: Clarification
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

OPENING: I assume you mean a "Border Agreement."

There has never been a borfer agreement with Palestine.

.(COMMENT)

Whatever you mean by the term "Palestine."

◈ It must have been a "state" at the time other treaties were made. ​

........................ .............OR​

◈ There must have been a case of self-determination on the part of the people of the State.​

In conformity with the UN Charter and in order to achieve the kind of stability and finality in international boundary disputes must be settled peacefully. Apart from the legitimate exercise of the right of self-defence, the use of force which unfortunately occurs very frequently in boundary disputes, is no longer compatible with modern international law.
SOURCE: JKAU: Econ. & Adm., Vol. 9, pp. 29-66 (1416 A.H./1996 A.D.) by OMAR ABUBAKAR BAKHASHAB • Department of Law • Faculty of Economics and Administration, King Abdul-Aziz University, Jeddah, Saudi Arabia

The attempt to use the territory over which the Mandate applied is not (and was never intended to be) an international boundary for a "state." Further attempts to use the demarcations associated with the 1949 Armistice Agreements is (once again) never intended to be an International Boundary agreement. The International Boundary Agreement associated with West Bank, Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip can be found in:

◈ Egypt and Israel Treaty of Peace (1979) •​

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◈ Jordan-Israeli Peace Treaty (1994) •​

In 2005, Israel unilaterally withdrew from the Gaza Strip and left it to its Right of Self-Determination. We can all see today the complexion of Arab Palestinian Rule.

As for the West Bank and Jerusalem, the Arab Palestinians never liberated the territory (peacefully). The liberation was when the Israeli Forces acquired the territory from the Jordanians in 1967 and when the Jordanians announce their termination over any territory west of the Jordan River. In 1995, the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) agreed to express consent to be bound by the Oslo Accords.

In general, the Arab Palestinians protest in armed conflict because they in what they consider injurious treatment, and as being deprived of self-determination and independence (or some other injustice). The Arab Palestinian claim to be prevented from establishing their sovereignty over the place and time, the people of Palestine want to fashion their national identity. That the Treaty of Lausanne established their nation. Well, that is simply not accurate (a mistake of fact). Why, because by 1923 the Arab Palestinians had already declined the "third attempt was made to establish an institution through which the Arab population of Palestine could be brought into cooperation with the government." And all through the Mandate period over the territory, the British Administration proposed “the establishment of an Arab Agency in Palestine which will occupy a position exactly analogous to that accorded to the Jewish Agency” → which the Arab Palestinian consistently declined. Then, after the Jewish Agency facilitated the National Council for the Jewish State to establish a provisional Jewish Government over the territory recommended by the UN General Assembly, again rejected the offer of the territory recommended for the new Arab State. And at that point, the Arab League tried to use force but only managed to secure a part of the territory with they promptly secured for themselves.

The Arab Palestinians did not accept one single avenue of approach to set themselves on course for independence and sovereignty.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Mindful]

Before Hamas took control of the Gaza Strip in 2007, Palestinian workers inside Israel stood at 120,000.
Tens of thousands of unemployed Palestinians eagerly seek work in Israel amid the high unemployment rates in the Gaza Strip — that reached 48% in the first quarter of 2021 — made worse by the Israeli blockade imposed since 2006 and the Palestinian Authority’s decision to stop hiring Gazans following the internal split in 2007.
In light of the difficult conditions in the besieged enclave, thousands of unemployed Gazans applied for permits to work inside Israel.

Most of these workers do not speak Hebrew, which is not taught in the Palestinian curriculum. The Hebrew language is only taught as an elective course in some Palestinian universities.

Many Gazans are now seeking to learn Hebrew in specialized language centers in the Strip.
Al-Monitor visited the Nafah Training, Language and Translation Center, which offers Hebrew courses for Gazan workers and merchants taught by Palestinian former prisoners who learned Hebrew while in Israeli jails.

Gazans Flocking to Learn Hebrew So They Can Work in Israel

Al Monitor reports on how more and more palestinian Arabs from Gaza are learning Hebrew, in the hope of working in Israel

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