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JoeB131
Unarmed white people can be JUST as dangerous if they've been pumping iron in the pen and celebrate with some PCP.
ONCE AGAIN - It depends on the circumstance.
An unarmed white person pumping iron in the pen on PCP can be dangerous if he wants to inflict harm on another smaller weaker unarmed person who is untrained in any unarmed combat.
JoeB131
The real question is, would most people blame a cop if he shoots faced with that kind of threat
ONCE AGAIN - It depends on the circumstance.
What matters in a given encounter is what those killed by cops were actually doing when they were shot.
If those persons shot are indeed attacking the officer or another party in a way that threatens death or serious bodily harm, most would agree that shooting them can be justified.
JoeB131
Here's the thing. Cops make 10 million arrests a year.
OK
JoeB131
Only in 1000 cases a year, do they need to use lethal force.
OK.
The number of police arrests will ALWAYS greatly exceed the number of civies killed by the police. But do you set the bar that low for the police ? That you think they deserve a round of applause because most of their interactions with ppl don't end up in them blowing them away ?
The Ku Klux Klan only lynched and hanged a small percentage of black people they interacted with. So there was no problem with the Klan ?
And it's funny I bet you would not have made the same argument after 9-11 ? After all Al-Queda have killed only a miniscule number of Americans but that didn't stop Bush going war against them
And that's the issue isn't just about death. The issue you have white supremacists in law enforcement from top to toe
Michael A. Wood Jr was a white retired White American police sergeant he noted what he saw while serving on the Baltimore police force from 2003 to 2014
He confirmed much of what many Black Americans in Baltimore have long known.
The Police :
He found that arrests and crime bear little relationship to each other.
- Racially profile.·
- Lie.
- Do not see Black and poor people as real human being.
- Are an occupying force in Black ghettos.
- See the people there as the enemy, not as citizens to protect and serve.
- Use unspoken arrest quota.
- Each officer is expected to make so many arrests a month.
- Do not care much about the US Constitution.
- Are badly trained.
- Fear Black males.
When he was put on patrol in a well-to-do White neighbourhood he would go to a nearby Black neighbourhood to make his arrest quota.
Not because there was more crime there but because he could get away with arresting blacks for little things, like throwing a cigarette on the floor or playing basketball in the street. Also the police were told not to enforce drug laws against white people
He did not see himself as racist but took part in a racist institution by following orders. And these orders came from top. Who were supported by politicians who represented not the people but moneyed interests like the prison-industrial complex that need 90% occupancy.
Or white cop Adrian Schoolcraft he logged how the NYPD used to manipulate crime stats. He recorded everything that was said with a small tape recorder while he was on duty.
Police officers were told how many people to stop and search. How many tickets to write. How many arrests to make every month. Meanwhile serious crime was not taken seriously. .
When he had a solid case he went to InternalAffairs. So the police arrived at his door with a dozen policemen. They tore his place apart. They threw him to the ground, beat him up and handcuffed him.
After six days missing his dad found his son at last in a mental ward in Queens NY, where the police had put him.
That's only touching the surface the police plant evidence on suspects to frame them, as with the Ramparts division scandal or they protect drug runners.
The police deal in drugs themselves. Ever heard about New York’s infamous 75th precinct ?
JoeB131
Of those, you might have, what 10 that are questionable.
And who get's to decide what is questionable ? Because had this not been filmed on social media it would not have been seen as questionable
Killing is unarmed blk ppl is never questionable. It's pretty much always justified.
JoeB131
Yes, improve training and raise professional standards so that we don't have those 10.
Don't straw man. Don't just make up random numbers to suit your argument
The police have perfect training in knowing how de-escalate situations when they are white
I'm in the PUNISHMENT game. Because that how they roll with us. It's all about punishment with blk ppl. All about laws, fines, bans, prison with black people.
JoeB131
I'm actually trying to be reasonable, but frankly, dealing with you and your buddy IM, makes it kind of pointless.
Right
Do you think the shooting (killing) of Terrence Crutcher by Officer Betty Shelby, was justifiable ?
Do you think the shooting (killing) of Philando Castille by Officer Jeronimo Yanez, was justifiable ?
Do you think the shooting (killing) of Daniel Shaver by Officer Philip Brailsford, was justifiable ?