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JoeB131
Unarmed white people can be JUST as dangerous if they've been pumping iron in the pen and celebrate with some PCP.
ONCE AGAIN - It depends on the circumstance.
An unarmed white person pumping iron in the pen on PCP can be dangerous if he wants to inflict harm on another smaller weaker unarmed person who is untrained in any unarmed combat.
JoeB131
The real question is, would most people blame a cop if he shoots faced with that kind of threat
ONCE AGAIN - It depends on the circumstance.
What matters in a given encounter is what those killed by cops were actually doing when they were shot.
If those persons shot are indeed attacking the officer or another party in a way that threatens death or serious bodily harm, most would agree that shooting them can be justified.
JoeB131
Here's the thing. Cops make 10 million arrests a year.
OK
JoeB131
Only in 1000 cases a year, do they need to use lethal force.
OK.
The number of police arrests will ALWAYS greatly exceed the number of civies killed by the police. But do you set the bar that low for the police ? That you think they deserve a round of applause because most of their interactions with ppl don't end up in them blowing them away ?
The Ku Klux Klan only lynched and hanged a small percentage of black people they interacted with. So there was no problem with the Klan ?
And it's funny I bet you would not have made the same argument after 9-11 ? After all Al-Queda have killed only a miniscule number of Americans but that didn't stop Bush going war against them
And that's the issue isn't just about death. The issue you have white supremacists in law enforcement from top to toe
Michael A. Wood Jr was a white retired White American police sergeant he noted what he saw while serving on the Baltimore police force from 2003 to 2014
He confirmed much of what many Black Americans in Baltimore have long known.
The Police :
He found that arrests and crime bear little relationship to each other.
- Racially profile.·
- Lie.
- Do not see Black and poor people as real human being.
- Are an occupying force in Black ghettos.
- See the people there as the enemy, not as citizens to protect and serve.
- Use unspoken arrest quota.
- Each officer is expected to make so many arrests a month.
- Do not care much about the US Constitution.
- Are badly trained.
- Fear Black males.
When he was put on patrol in a well-to-do White neighbourhood he would go to a nearby Black neighbourhood to make his arrest quota.
Not because there was more crime there but because he could get away with arresting blacks for little things, like throwing a cigarette on the floor or playing basketball in the street. Also the police were told not to enforce drug laws against white people
He did not see himself as racist but took part in a racist institution by following orders. And these orders came from top. Who were supported by politicians who represented not the people but moneyed interests like the prison-industrial complex that need 90% occupancy.
Or white cop Adrian Schoolcraft he logged how the NYPD used to manipulate crime stats. He recorded everything that was said with a small tape recorder while he was on duty.
Police officers were told how many people to stop and search. How many tickets to write. How many arrests to make every month. Meanwhile serious crime was not taken seriously. .
When he had a solid case he went to InternalAffairs. So the police arrived at his door with a dozen policemen. They tore his place apart. They threw him to the ground, beat him up and handcuffed him.
After six days missing his dad found his son at last in a mental ward in Queens NY, where the police had put him.
That's only touching the surface the police plant evidence on suspects to frame them, as with the Ramparts division scandal or they protect drug runners.
The police deal in drugs themselves. Ever heard about New York’s infamous 75th precinct ?
JoeB131
Of those, you might have, what 10 that are questionable.
And who get's to decide what is questionable ? Because had this not been filmed on social media it would not have been seen as questionable
Killing is unarmed blk ppl is never questionable. It's pretty much always justified.
JoeB131
Yes, improve training and raise professional standards so that we don't have those 10.
Don't straw man. Don't just make up random numbers to suit your argument
The police have perfect training in knowing how de-escalate situations when they are white
I'm in the PUNISHMENT game. Because that how they roll with us. It's all about punishment with blk ppl. All about laws, fines, bans, prison with black people.
JoeB131
I'm actually trying to be reasonable, but frankly, dealing with you and your buddy IM, makes it kind of pointless.
Right
Are you aware that my grandfather was a Tuskegee Airman? His oldest daughter, my mother is still living and I don't think she would appreciate you using her dad's legacy to denigrate one of her daughter's friends, another black man.Black poverty is because many black males have criminal records and many black women are single mothers without educations. With those voluntary actions, black poverty will always be higher than white poverty. I'm living proof that no matter how poor you are born, you can claw your way out of poverty. The advantages that I had, no one gave me. I earned them in the military serving with a lot of black troops that were and are my brothers. None of them would stop to piss on you if you were on fire. They used to call people who talked and behaved like you shiftless, worthless N.......... They worked hard and proved every day that black Americans were just as good as anyone. There wasn't one of them that I wouldn't trust at my back or with my life. I wouldn't trust you a tenth of the distance I could throw you, you'd slip a knife in my back rather than support me against a common enemy. That's because you view whites as your ultimate enemy. I'm sure that's why you never served in the military, you don't really view this as your country, you view it as the country of people who look like me and to you that's enough reason not to put your "valuable" skin at risk defending it. The members of the Tuskeegee Airmen, the 92nd Infantry Division and the 784th Tank Battalion would all be ashamed of you,
You're not even WHITE so what are YOU crying about?Whites have PLENTY of room to talk about Affirmative Action, CRT, and Biden's American Rescue Plan.
You're NOT WHITE! You psycho!You have never been white, and thus have not suffered the effects of Affirmative Action discrimination against you. This is by far the largest racial discrimination in America, America's worst race problem, and you have never experienced it, except as a beneficiary, for which you ought to be ashamed of yourself.
You know, I get tired of old white segregation babies. This is one of the most definitive studies done on this. It was a 10 year study of police traffic stops. That's how he got his estimate.How did he get his “conservative estimate”?
I really don't give a damn because all the blacks I have met have drivers licenses and the fact is that voter fraud does not exist and ANY level to impact elections. This has been proven so state ID's aren't necessary.I don’t say it. The people who dig their heels in when it comes to using state issued IDs for voting point to Blacks not having them or have the hardest time getting them. Yet they do nothing to support or get Blacks IDs which is needed for so many other things.
How many cops have been killed by an unarmed citizen in the last year ? ZERO.
How many times a year does a police officer get beaten to death ? ZERO.
How many officers in the field are killed each year by violence ? 0.5 per state.
There are over 900,000 sworn law enforcement officers and less than one officer per state meets a violent demise, only 100 officers are killed in the line of duty each year (and of that 100 most of those deaths are by vehicles)
So tell me where is this life n death danger? Fk outta here. Most cops spend there days eating doughnuts n playin tetris
We saw in the school shooting in Texas Uvalde a few weeks bk then when there is REAL DANGER from a real killer. The cops wimp out like Bitches n we’re to scared to go in.
So get out my face with all that brave cop talk
See you have to get that cowardly gene out ur system
Jordan Woods did a 10-year study of police stops, and it is considered one of the most in-depth studies on this issue. The findings were published in 2019 and are available at the Michigan Law Review repository website. Here are his words:
The findings speak for themselves. The actual threat level to police appears to be less than the authority to kill police are given.
Stop making excuses Joe.
Exactly. They let children get killed because they were scared. They shoot unarmed blacks because they are scared. White racists try finding excuses and make false claims about black violence because they want to see police kill people of color.
Do you think the shooting (killing) of Terrence Crutcher by Officer Betty Shelby, was justifiable ?
Do you think the shooting (killing) of Philando Castille by Officer Jeronimo Yanez, was justifiable ?
Do you think the shooting (killing) of Daniel Shaver by Officer Philip Brailsford, was justifiable ?
That’s not what Democrats are saying regarding state issued ids and Blacks, argue that with them.I really don't give a damn because all the blacks I have met have drivers licenses and the fact is that voter fraud does not exist and ANY level to impact elections. This has been proven so state ID's aren't necessary.
So we agree.Why do you lie. Here, let me help you out. Last year, 633 officers died in the line of duty.
454 of those were due to Covid. But even taking thos outyou had
64 who were killed by gunfire.
31 who were struck by vehicles
4 who were stabbed to death.
6 who were killed in assaults - which means someone who didn't use a gun or a knife.
The Officer Down Memorial Page (ODMP)
The Officer Down Memorial Page (ODMP) is dedicated to remembering all law enforcement officers who have fallen in the line of duty.www.odmp.org
Yes, an unarmed person CAN be dangerous.
Since Columbine, they have been provided police with LEO with military grade armaments, superior protective armors, 25 years of evolved tactics training, improved/narrowed access to schools and despite all that ? You're all "You don't know if he has accomplices"
Let this had been more of a “urban” school, i guarantee we could of rounded up a better crew itching to do what needed to be done and get their hands on a lunatic who’s killing kids inside a neighborhood school. 40 minutes to an hour and the whole neighborhood would have pulled up by then.
Yeah in your world it's more important for the police to tase and handcuff the parents so they couldn’t save their own kids. These Goof Troop Mfers had more smoke for the parents trying to enter the school for their children.
I SPECIFICALLY gave you a list where SIX Cops were killed LOD by unarmed CRIMINALS.o we agree.
What I said was
"How many cops have been killed by an unarmed citizen in the last year ? ZERO"
Unfortunately the law seems to side with them. They are under no obligation whatsoever to risk their lives to protect others that are not already incarcerated. Chances are they will get paid administrative leave and then get to go about their normal duties like nothing ever happened
These useless hoes (like you) copping pleas as to why they wouldn’t enter a school. Black people have been telling you the police is full of cowards. We told you. Every single officer should lose their job and any pension they have coming. They are a disgrace to the uniform.
Most died due Covid according to your "stats" then gunfire, then you say 6 died in assaults well that proves my point
So 6 officers are killed by assaults each year but 150 people die every year from falling coconuts and around 350 die from Bathtubs that's how liitle of a risk unarmed people are to cops
www.statista.com
Dirtbags ? What ever happened to guilty to prove innocent eh ?
Your straw manning again. That is your making up a scenario to suit your argument.
Because I think about the Asian women working twelve hours a day in sweatshops both abroad and in places like L.A. to make clothes for people like you and I wonder, how are they doing so well?
I think about the Asian families who have to put in eighty hours a week just to keep their heads above water; and I wonder, how are they doing so well?
I think about the Indian, Pakistani or Bangladeshi taxi drivers who endure crappy working conditions, customers who get pissy about their accents and I wonder, how are they doing so well?
And there is no shortage of poor Africans in Lagos, or Kinshasa, or Narobi, so what is your point?To claim superior Asian culture as the reasons for achievement in the U.S. requires you to ignore the rampant poverty in their countries of origin. There is no shortage of poor Asians in the slums of Manila, Calcutta and Hong Kong.
Also whites still dehumanize Asians into "emotionless think tanks". This is why in Silicon Valley they deny Asians opportunities at leadership positions and give them jobs only as programmers.
Asians are ALLOWED and ASSISTED by the white supremacist to prosper OVER Black people and Asians KNOW THIS, that's why they don't fight racism because they don't want to be treated like black people are. So they accept their role and in many cases are just as anti black as the white supremacists. So Asians can be used as a buffer class.
Racism is all about sticking it to those blacks !!!!!
That an unarmed person CAN be a threat!Yup and according to you 6 officers are killed by assaults from unarmed ppl each year and that proves what ?
Yeah, those scary stats that document facts. Not as valid as your feelings.Don't matter you will always justify the killing a black person. Secondly white supremacists always create stats to suit their arguments
Okay, we are talking about a whopping 34 people. Did any of them have coconuts?Stop trying to put words in my mouth. I'm only talking about unarmed people. I'm not talking about people who had guns and knives
Things are true or untrue without a court ruling.The law says "Innocent till proven guilty"
Are you going to argue against the constitution ?
OK. That's just your white supremacists mindset trying to justify why the blk person deserved to be killed
I am half white. And Affirmative Action doesn't just discriminate against whites. When AA wrecked my budding career, it discriminated against 3 Hispanics (including me), 2 Asians, and 7 women. The only ones who got assistanthips were blacks.You're not even WHITE so what are YOU crying about?
