White Christian nationalists are poised to remake America in their image during Trump's second term

[TheProgressivePatriot]

A white Christian Nationalist freed the slaves...

Abraham Lincoln's religious views were complex and varied, and he was not a Christian nationalist. He was not a member of any church, but he was familiar with the Bible and often attended church with his family.

Early life:

• Lincoln grew up in a Baptist family.
• He was skeptical as a young man and sometimes ridiculed revivalists.
• He was more anti-theological early in his life.

Later life:

• He moved away from his earlier skepticism after the death of his son Willie in 1862.
  
  
• He thought seriously about what a hypothetical God might want for the U.S. and slavery.
  
  
• He told his friend, Senator Orville Hickman Browning, that he thought God wouldn't favor the Union's cause unless it sought to end slavery.

Overall views:

• He had no patience for sectarian squabbling among denominations.
• He was not an orthodox biblical Christian.
• He did not express his beliefs publicly.
• He was not a Christian nationalist.

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[Superbadbrutha]

A white Christian Nationalist freed the slaves...

Did he really free the slaves or just move them to another type of slavery?

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

And in doing so, saving the world.

Holy shit!! WHAT!!!???

 

[The Irish Ram]

Lincoln believed in God, often quoted scripture, and attended Christian church.

When I left home to take this chair of state, I requested my countrymen to pray for me. I was not then a Christian. When my son died, the severest trial of my life, I was not a Christian. But, when I went to Gettysburg and looked upon the graves of our dead heroes who had fallen in defense of their country, I then and there consecrated myself to Christ. Yes, I do love Jesus.

Trump used Lincoln's well-worn Bible to take his oath.

 

[Correll]

Inane equine excrement! The founders absolutely did NOT want a theocracy . Learn history

There is nothing moral about DEI and LGBTQ?? There is nothing moral about discrimination, exclusion, bigotry ,hate and and cruelty to others who you just disapprove of.

migration from shithole nations.? How about human being fleeing from intolerable human rights violations , war and poverty in countries where US foreign policy helped create those conditions ? You people are turning this country into a shithole.

1. Christianity is a good thing and your desire to exclude it from the public space is a bad thing.

2. DEI is anti-white and anti-male discrimination. Your pretense otherwise is shit talk.

3. We have had TOO much immigration for far too long. We need to cut it to nothing so we can TRY to assimilate the wad we have now. And yes, they are shit hold countries. And no, that is not our fault. Stop blaming America for everything you anti-American hack.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

They have, are, and will continue to fail.

 

[Correll]

They have, are, and will continue to fail.

Who? THe few thousand White Nationalists/ Christian Nationalists?

Yeah, if that is who you meant, yeah, I agree the fringe will continue to have no voice.


If you meant the millions of NATIONALIST AMERICANS who happen to be white and/or Christian and want to MAKE AMERICAN GREAT AGAIN,

then you are very wrong. We are winning and will continue to win.


you keep spamming your shit talk. It didn't work the last eleciton, but only because you didn't do it enough.


You need to be even more shrill and unhinged. That will convince hte people you have contempt for, to vote for you.

 

[lennypartiv]

Does the OP not realize we were founded as a Christian country by white men?

 

[whutTHEYsay]

"What the Lord established": Elon Musk is camouflaging a Christian nationalist takeover

Project 2025 was clear: First, purge federal workers. Then replace them with theocrats and fanatics

www.yahoo.com

Over the summer, Musk told Jordan Peterson during an interview that while he's not "a particularly religious person," he would say, "I’m probably a cultural Christian."


The brand of Christian that makes up the base of the Republican Party accepts Musk as not a particularly religious person.

But if a particularly religious person is a democrat, they are automatically considered to be working for Satan or the communist party or worse.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Long Standing Debate​

Lincoln’s manifest trust in God alongside his unconventional piety confounded his contemporaries. A popular early biography by Joseph Gilbert Holland, published in 1866, described Lincoln as a model evangelical gentleman. This greatly upset Lincoln’s law partner in Springfield, Illinois, William Herndon, who thought he knew what Lincoln was really like. The portrait in Herndon’s biography was much saltier. Lincoln was depicted as a prairie “infidel” who got along very well without the church; an ambitious, even scheming, politician; a man more fond of the bawdy than the Bible, more given to introspective melancholy than to Christian holiness.

Modern studies continue the contrast. In G. Frederick Owen’s Abraham Lincoln: The Man and His Faith (published in 1976 and reprinted several times), Lincoln appears as a Christian prophet who sustained evangelical convictions throughout his life. By contrast, in Gore Vidal’s historical novel Lincoln (1984), Christianity is a superfluous veneer that Lincoln occasionally parades for political purposes.

The greatest difficulty in coming to a clearer picture of Lincoln’s faith is the fact that his religion does not fit into modern categories. He was not an orthodox, evangelical, “born-again” Christian striving toward the “higher life” (as these terms have been used since the 1870s). But neither was he a skeptical “modernist” with a prejudice against the supernatural and an aversion to the Bible.

Consequently, many conflicting stories about Lincoln lack concrete historical verification. In one, for example, Lincoln made a definite profession of faith; in another he was voicing agnostic opinions to the end of his days in the White House.

https://christianhistoryinstitute.org/magazine/article/puzzling-faith-of-lincoln

 

[whutTHEYsay]

If you meant the millions of NATIONALIST AMERICANS who happen to be white and/or Christian and want to MAKE AMERICAN GREAT AGAIN,

Are you saying black Christians can’t make America great in a different way than 30 million LAWLESS white Republican Christians want to.

The greatest difficulty in coming to a clearer picture of Lincoln’s faith is the fact that his religion does not fit into modern categories. He was not an orthodox, evangelical, “born-again” Christian striving toward the “higher life” (as these terms have been used since the 1870s).
https://christianhistoryinstitute.org/magazine/article/puzzling-faith-of-lincoln

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Lincoln believed in a type of doom or destiny operating beyond time and history.

He believe in no sort of Christian deity.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

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I. lennypartiv cxxviii.: Does the OP not realize we were founded as a Christian country by white men. lnnyprtv 250215 wcnap00128

Ii. whutTHEYsay cxxxv. Churching of America : Membership In America Percentage of population that belongs to a church: 1776 17% 1850 34% 1860 37% 1870 35% 1890 45% 1906 51% 1916 53% 1926 56% 1952 59% 1980 62% 1995 65% * *Estimated. Source: "The Churching of America: 1776-1990" by Roger Finke and Rodney Stark and Gallup Organization data“ •••• nfbw 201130 Vftald00135

iii. whut I say cxxxiii. If every person in the colonies in 1776 was a white male that means at most only 17 out of 100 white males belonged to a Christian Church.

According to the Roger Finke and Rodney Stark and Gallup Organization as shown above in para ii. America was founded as a “none” religion nation.

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[CrusaderFrank]

“There’s an image that captures the threat posed by the White Christian nationalist movement — and how it could become even more dangerous over the next four years.

Taken during the Jan. 6 insurrection, the photo shows a solitary White man, his head pressed in prayer against a massive wooden cross, facing the domed US Capitol building. An American flag stands like a sentinel on a flagpole beside the Capitol under an ominously gray sky.

The photograph depicts a foot soldier in an insurgent religious movement trying to storm the halls of American power. What’s unsettling about the photo four years later is that much of the religious zeal that fed the insurrection is no longer outside the gates of power. Many of that movement’s followers are now on the inside, because their Chosen One, Donald Trump, returns this month to the Oval Office.

This is the scenario Americans could face in Trump’s second term. Under Trump, Christian nationalists will have unprecedented access to the power of the federal government. Trump’s GOP has unified control of Congress. And a conservative supermajority, which has already blurred the line between separation of church and state in a series of decisions favoring Christian interests, controls the US Supreme Court.”

White Christian nationalists are poised to remake America in their image during Trump’s second term, author says

Donald Trump’s second term will empower the White Christian nationalist movement, says scholar Kristin Kobes Du Mez, author of “Jesus and John Wayne.” “It will transform our government,” she says. “They have seen their movement go mainstream, and now they have incredible access to power.”

www.yahoo.com

White Christian nationalists are yet another manifestation of the fascist right, another threat to our democratic institutions and protected liberties.

And with a Supreme Court dominated by partisan conservative ideologues hostile to settled, accepted Establishment Clause jurisprudence, realizing the goal of white Christian nationalists to conjoin church and state is real and imminent.

Still with the J6 Reichstag Fire and Fedsurrection

Jesus says, bite me you Progressive loon

 

[BlackSand]

Liberals did nothing of the sort. But God will give you everything you deserve.

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Grace will give you what you don't deserve ...

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[Missourian]

“There’s an image that captures the threat posed by the White Christian nationalist movement — and how it could become even more dangerous over the next four years.

Taken during the Jan. 6 insurrection, the photo shows a solitary White man, his head pressed in prayer against a massive wooden cross, facing the domed US Capitol building. An American flag stands like a sentinel on a flagpole beside the Capitol under an ominously gray sky.

The photograph depicts a foot soldier in an insurgent religious movement trying to storm the halls of American power. What’s unsettling about the photo four years later is that much of the religious zeal that fed the insurrection is no longer outside the gates of power. Many of that movement’s followers are now on the inside, because their Chosen One, Donald Trump, returns this month to the Oval Office.

This is the scenario Americans could face in Trump’s second term. Under Trump, Christian nationalists will have unprecedented access to the power of the federal government. Trump’s GOP has unified control of Congress. And a conservative supermajority, which has already blurred the line between separation of church and state in a series of decisions favoring Christian interests, controls the US Supreme Court.”

White Christian nationalists are poised to remake America in their image during Trump’s second term, author says

Donald Trump’s second term will empower the White Christian nationalist movement, says scholar Kristin Kobes Du Mez, author of “Jesus and John Wayne.” “It will transform our government,” she says. “They have seen their movement go mainstream, and now they have incredible access to power.”

www.yahoo.com

White Christian nationalists are yet another manifestation of the fascist right, another threat to our democratic institutions and protected liberties.

And with a Supreme Court dominated by partisan conservative ideologues hostile to settled, accepted Establishment Clause jurisprudence, realizing the goal of white Christian nationalists to conjoin church and state is real and imminent.

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[Delldude]

Liberals did nothing of the sort.

Correct, it's the progressive faction that's killing the party.

But God will give you everything you deserve.

Probably the reason the Marxist progressives are on then street screaming bloody murder oven their financial shenanigans being revealed ala DOGE...................

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Lincoln believed in God, often quoted scripture, and attended Christian church.

When I left home to take this chair of state, I requested my countrymen to pray for me. I was not then a Christian. When my son died, the severest trial of my life, I was not a Christian. But, when I went to Gettysburg and looked upon the graves of our dead heroes who had fallen in defense of their country, I then and there consecrated myself to Christ. Yes, I do love Jesus.

Trump used Lincoln's well-worn Bible to take his oath.

The above is not a direct quote by Lincoln. It is secondhand unknown minister. Several variations of the same thing appeared after he was assassinated.

Four men are closest to Lincoln. His entire life said this.

Herndon's reply to these accusations was never answered.[64]

John Remsburg (1848–1919), President of the American Secular Union in 1897, argued against claims of Lincoln's conversion in his book Six Historic Americans(1906). He cites several of Lincoln's close associates:[65]

• The man who stood nearest to President Lincoln at Washington—nearer than any clergyman or newspaper correspondent—was his private secretary, Col. John G. Nicolay. In a letter dated May 27, 1865, Colonel Nicolay says: "Mr. Lincoln did not, to my knowledge, in any way change his religious ideas, opinions, or beliefs from the time he left Springfield to the day of his death."
• His lifelong friend and executor, Judge David Davis, affirmed the same: "He had no faith in the Christian sense of the term."
• His biographer, Colonel Lamon, intimately acquainted with him in Illinois, and with him during all the years that he lived in Washington, says: "Never in all that time did he let fall from his lips or his pen an expression which remotely implied the slightest faith in Jesus as the son of God and the Savior of men." Both Lamon and Herndon published biographies of their former colleague after his assassination relating their personal recollections of him. Each denied Lincoln's adherence to Christianity and characterized his religious beliefs as deist or skeptical.

In a letter held by The Raab Collection dated February 4, 1866, William Herndon wrote that:

Mr. Lincoln's religion is too well known to me to allow of even a shadow of a doubt; he is or was a Theist & a Rationalist, denying all extraordinary - supernatural inspiration or revelation. At one time in his life, he was an elevated Pantheist, doubting the immortality of the soul as the Christian world understands that term. He believed that the soul lost its identity and was immortal as a force. Subsequent to this he rose to the belief of a God, and this is all the change he ever underwent. I speak knowing what I say. He was a noble man- a good great man for all this. My own ideas of God- his attributes - man, his destiny, & the relations of the two, are tinged with Mr. Lincoln's religion. I cannot, for the poor life of me, see why men dodge the sacred truth of things. In my poor lectures I stick to the truth and bide my time. I love Mr. Lincoln dearly, almost worship him, but that can't blind me. He's the purest politician I ever saw, and the justest man. I am scribbling- that's the word- away on a life of Mr. Lincoln- gathering known- authentic & true facts of him. Excuse the liberties I have taken with you- hope you won't have a fight with Johnson. Is he turning out a fool - a Tyler? He must go with God if he wants to be a living and vital power.[66][67]

 

[Mac1958]

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Jesus was FAR too woke for MAGA.

He has therefore been replaced.

 

[Sayaras]

“There’s an image that captures the threat posed by the White Christian nationalist movement — and how it could become even more dangerous over the next four years.

Taken during the Jan. 6 insurrection, the photo shows a solitary White man, his head pressed in prayer against a massive wooden cross, facing the domed US Capitol building. An American flag stands like a sentinel on a flagpole beside the Capitol under an ominously gray sky.

The photograph depicts a foot soldier in an insurgent religious movement trying to storm the halls of American power. What’s unsettling about the photo four years later is that much of the religious zeal that fed the insurrection is no longer outside the gates of power. Many of that movement’s followers are now on the inside, because their Chosen One, Donald Trump, returns this month to the Oval Office.

This is the scenario Americans could face in Trump’s second term. Under Trump, Christian nationalists will have unprecedented access to the power of the federal government. Trump’s GOP has unified control of Congress. And a conservative supermajority, which has already blurred the line between separation of church and state in a series of decisions favoring Christian interests, controls the US Supreme Court.”

White Christian nationalists are poised to remake America in their image during Trump’s second term, author says

Donald Trump’s second term will empower the White Christian nationalist movement, says scholar Kristin Kobes Du Mez, author of “Jesus and John Wayne.” “It will transform our government,” she says. “They have seen their movement go mainstream, and now they have incredible access to power.”

www.yahoo.com

White Christian nationalists are yet another manifestation of the fascist right, another threat to our democratic institutions and protected liberties.

And with a Supreme Court dominated by partisan conservative ideologues hostile to settled, accepted Establishment Clause jurisprudence, realizing the goal of white Christian nationalists to conjoin church and state is real and imminent.

Plenty of black and brown voted for Trump.