White Christian nationalists are poised to remake America in their image during Trump's second term

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

No, that's not it, slow horses.

Intelligent choice between tradional 1776 Americanism and what are conflicting isms, particularly Marxism/Socialism in modern America, demands an expectation of a thorough knowledge of certain Principles.

To speak on all of those would almost be an eternal endeavor.

But that's what I was speaking for.

I gave the cliff notes, honestly, and only in so far as it related to Blacks thought(s) there.

You're probably capable of having them. But this is a choice.

You have no idea what those and other historical terms mean.

Which 'eternal' principles? You don't have a clue.

 

[Natural Citizen]

You have no idea what those and other historical terms mean.

Which 'eternal' principles? You don't have a clue.

Yeah, see, this is the kind of attitude that just doesn't appeal to me or indicate any kind of serious intent on your part to have have functional debate/discusion.

I'm probably not gonna stand around shaking my pecker back and forth with you like that. I'm better than that. And there's just no value in it. Not to me anyway.

You've got some work to do on yourself before you're anywhere near ready. And I'm saying that as respectfully as a I can.

To your question, though, I didn't say eternal principles. Though that discussion could be had withgenuinely interested people and in the interest of functional, fruitful dialogue in the right area of the board.

What I said was that to cover them would be an eternal endeavor.

Please do not twist my words. Thanks!

But...if it wasn't your intent to twist them and maybe you just don't read so good, then maybe slow down and take a little more time to take it in as offered before just hurrying up to shake your pecker at me.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Yeah, see, this is the kind of attitude that just doesn't appeal to me or indicate any kind of serious intent on your part to have have functional debate/discusion.

I'm probably not gonna stand around shaking my pecker back and forth with you like that. I'm better than that. And there's just no value in it. Not to me anyway.

You've got some work to do on yourself before you're anywhere near ready. And I'm saying that as respectfully as a I can.

To your question, though, I didn't say eternal principles. Though that discussion could be had withgenuinely interested people and in the interest of functional, fruitful dialogue in the right area of the board.

What I said was that to cover them would be an eternal endeavor.

Please do not twist my words. Thanks!

But...if it wasn't your intent to twist them and maybe you just don't read so good, then maybe slow down and take a little more time to take it in as offered before just hurrying up to shake your pecker at me.

"eternal principles" are the words you used. Now you have twisted concept. Does not matter. No one understand whats you mean.

 

[Natural Citizen]

"eternal principles" are the words you used.

Intelligent choice between tradional 1776 Americanism and what are conflicting isms, particularly Marxism/Socialism in modern America, demands an expectation of a thorough knowledge of certain Principles.

To speak on all of those would almost be an eternal endeavor.

Again, please do not twist my words. Thanks!

I control my arguments. Not you.

That's probably about all of the time I'm going to give you today. You freaking blew it, man.

As I'd mentioned, though, you have some work to do on yourself before you're ready for any kind of functonal debate which might. You are not a serious person, observably. Certainly do not present an interest in being one here anyway.

 

[BlackSand]

"eternal principles" are the words you used. Now you have twisted concept. Does not matter. No one understand whats you mean.

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No he didn't ... Read it again dipshit ...
Principles and Endeavors are not the same thing.

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[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Black Sand and Natural Citizen are trouble with words.

We will leave it at that.

 

[BlackSand]

Black Sand and Natural Citizen are trouble with words.

We will leave it at that.

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Yeah ... You haven't figured it out yet.
It may be better to be a smartass than a dumbass ... But you're a dumbass trying to be a smartass.

Try those words on for size ... Skippy ...

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[John Edgar Slow Horses]

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Yeah ... You haven't figured it out yet.
It may be better to be a smartass than a dumbass ... But you're a dumbass trying to be a smartass.

Try those words on for size ... Skippy ...

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[BlackSand]

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Hey ... Does that count as an emoji ...
I'm willing to let it slide and take the failure if the consensus rules otherwise.

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[John Edgar Slow Horses]

It's a good picture.

Why is "empathy" such a hard step for Trumpys.

 

[BlackSand]

It's a good picture.

Why is "empathy" such a hard step for Trumpys.

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What you're looking for is 'sympathy' not 'empathy' ... You fucking turd bucket ...

I cannot empathize with you ... Because I am not dumb as a box of rocks.
Damn those pesky words and what they really mean.

See what I mean ... You fail at trying to be a smartass ... Because you're stupid.

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[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Black Sand lacks empathy.

For shame.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

OK, back to the OP.

The evangelical, fundamental, and Penetecostal Christians continue to lose big numbers. Down to 20% a week in service.

Either Trump moves now to overthrow the Republic, or his people lose forever.

 

[Correll]

"the point, that the anti-white discrimination is wrong nor that it hurts people." is wrong because no white discrimination exists and white discrimination has never existed in this country.

And if it ever did happen the negative outcome was far, far less to whites than to people of color.

You are a white boy and never had trouble getting a job.

Your denial of wide spread and well known policy is dumb.

I have had plenty of trouble getting job(s) is my life. Plenty, nearly ALL "white boys" have.

The negative outcome for a "White boy" of being denied a job is "far, far less"?

That's a dumb claim too. You get denied a job, or a better job, you are stuck where you are at.


I was in management at one point when they decided that they needed more diversity in the management team. So, I was moving to another facility (sidewises, new purchase being integrated) and my position was being filled.

I recommended the obvious choice, a staff member with a lot of experience and the best production numbers, who happened to be an older white guy.

He was dismissed, as they had already decided that the new hire was going to be a black woman.

This was a huge and rare promotion. When I got it, it took me from working poor to middle class. I went from not being able to afford to have a car, to visit my mother, to taking her on a caribbean cruise.

The harm to that guy being denied the promotion he was most qualified for, was real and huge. And not just to him, but to his two daughters.

Your lack of concern for him, is just you being a bad person. It is not fair, it is not just.

 

[Correll]

The Dreamer didn't die, the Visionary was murdered. Guess who attacked and murdered Dr. King? Christians. Dr. King like many other black folks were bamboozled with the Bible.

So, which is it? Was he a visionary or a fool?

MLK was a CHRISTIAN leader as much as he was a black leader. Your contempt for Christianisty is contempt for him and all the people that followed him and supported him, white and black.

Yep, and just think about all the black churches that were bombed and burned down by who? White Christians. 4 young black girls were murdered in a Church that was bombed by who? White Christians.

This would be a good comeback, it my point was somethign along the lines of "Christians are perfect and none of them are ever bad people".


Instead my point was that the civil rights movement of which you are so.... proud and benefited from, was a movement led by CHRISTIAN CHURCHES.

And supported by the vast majority of CHRISTIANS in this country, white and black.

MLK talked about that you know. He admitted that the whites of this country supported his movement.

YOU focuse on the minority that opposed the majority and you smear the whole of the groups involved, as though they are defined BY THOSE THEY OPPOSED.

That is pretty shitty of you. Especially since these people AND THEIR ACTIONS, benefited you and yours, MASSIVELY OVER GENERATIONS.

You are ungratefully, and hateful.

The white women benefit and their white husbands right along with them.

Not really. THe integration of women into the workforce has been at best a mixed bag, with damage to the familiy and to society.

AND you are still unable to explain away the harm done to the white (males) that lose out on the jobs or promotions that they are denied in the name of DEI or diversity.

Funny that I never see any MAGAs complaining about white immigrants from Europe or Canada. Trump just signed an EO claiming that White South Africans are now refugees, how long before they start pouring in the country?

The vast majority of immigrants, legal and ilegal for generations have been from shitty third world countries.

The numbers from europe and canada have been far less.

The white population of south african is less than 5 million people. THe population of mexico ALONE is 128 million.

That you look at that complaints of the Right and see RACISM in the fact that we discuss the immigration problem as one of black or brown immigrants as evidence of "racism"

is actually a good example of how you see racism, when there is a far more obvious answer.

 

[Correll]

If white women and white men benefit the most from it, how in the hell is it anti-white discrimination?

Becasue everytime a white (male) individual is passed over, it is anti-white (male) discrimination that hurts people.

That else where, other white women may or may not be working that same system to their advantage, so that it generations numbers that you lefties can cite,

doesn't mean anything to the harm being done to the white (male) individuals that were passed over.


People are INDIVIDUALS, and suffer harm as such.


If I am denied a job, it does me no good that perhaps in NYC, some white woman got a job that might be from DEI somehow.


The harm to me, and to the millions of people like me, is real, and doesn't magically go away, becuase elsewhere other white (women) managed to work the system.


This is pretty simple stuff. And the only way that I can see that it would be hard for you to get, is if you really don't see people as people, but as groups.


Which, is not good. On very many levels. FOR YOU.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

So, which is it? Was he a visionary or a fool?

MLK was a CHRISTIAN leader as much as he was a black leader. Your contempt for Christianisty is contempt for him and all the people that followed him and supported him, white and black.

He was definitely a Visionary and he was a a man of GOD. America hated Dr King when he was living, he approval rating was about 38%, this love affair by folks like you didn't come until after he was murdered. 1963 King was totally different than 1968 King.

This would be a good comeback, it my point was somethign along the lines of "Christians are perfect and none of them are ever bad people".

Instead my point was that the civil rights movement of which you are so.... proud and benefited from, was a movement led by CHRISTIAN CHURCHES.

And supported by the vast majority of CHRISTIANS in this country, white and black.

MLK talked about that you know. He admitted that the whites of this country supported his movement.

YOU focuse on the minority that opposed the majority and you smear the whole of the groups involved, as though they are defined BY THOSE THEY OPPOSED.

That is pretty shitty of you. Especially since these people AND THEIR ACTIONS, benefited you and yours, MASSIVELY OVER GENERATIONS.

You are ungratefully, and hateful.

This is why you murdered Dr King and I mean White America.

If it was supported by the vast majority of Christians there would have been no need for a Civil Rights Movement. Were you living during that time? I was.

Not really. THe integration of women into the workforce has been at best a mixed bag, with damage to the familiy and to society.

AND you are still unable to explain away the harm done to the white (males) that lose out on the jobs or promotions that they are denied in the name of DEI or diversity.

Spare me that bullshit, what % of white males do you think lost out on a job or promotion because of DEI or diversity? How many white males do you think have gotten jobs or promotions they didn't deserve?

The vast majority of immigrants, legal and ilegal for generations have been from shitty third world countries.

The numbers from europe and canada have been far less.

The white population of south african is less than 5 million people. THe population of mexico ALONE is 128 million.

That you look at that complaints of the Right and see RACISM in the fact that we discuss the immigration problem as one of black or brown immigrants as evidence of "racism"

is actually a good example of how you see racism, when there is a far more obvious answer.

The same right wing, racist excuses we have been hearing for years.

 

[irosie91]

He was definitely a Visionary and he was a a man of GOD. America hated Dr King when he was living, he approval rating was about 38%, this love affair by folks like you didn't come until after he was murdered. 1963 King was totally different than 1968 King.

This is why you murdered Dr King and I mean White America.

If it was supported by the vast majority of Christians there would have been no need for a Civil Rights Movement. Were you living during that time? I was.


Spare me that bullshit, what % of white males do you think lost out on a job or promotion because of DEI or diversity? How many white males do you think have gotten jobs or promotions they didn't deserve?


The same right wing, racist excuses we have been hearing for years.

IMVO----In My Vaulted Opinion---dei has a demoralizing effect
on "persons of color"

 

[Superbadbrutha]

IMVO----In My Vaulted Opinion---dei has a demoralizing effect
on "persons of color"

It must have one on white folks, since they are the ones bitching about it.

 

[irosie91]

It must have one on white folks, since they are the ones bitching about it.

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