Which Democrat should I Vote For In 2028?

There are so many constant anti-Trump threads day after day that I thought I'd ask those on the left which democrat I should vote for in 2028. Take your pick out of any Democrat you wish, whether they have talked about running or not but they must have at least a realistic shot at winning. These are my values and policies I base my voting on (in no particular order):

1. Must be pro-business or at least neutral anyway. I won't vote for anyone who is flat out pro-worker. (I'm a businessman).

2. Must be against illegal immigration and for stopping the flow of illegals to our border. Anyone crossing the border illegally cannot be granted asylum. Must also be against sanctuary cities and states and be against birthright citizenship.

3. Must be though on crime, criminals, and terrorism and believe that law enforcement are not the enemies of the people.

4. Doesn't believe in raising taxes in order to spend more money. Raising taxes to pay down the debt may be acceptable, depending on the details. But, no gaslighting and no trickery. One caveat, no raising tax revenues until the budget is balanced first and then those raised tax revenues go straight toward paying down the debt.

5. Must be pro-life and not for abortion on demand. Abortion should not be used as a method of birth control. No abortions allowed by providers receiving federal tax dollars. If so, federal tax dollars are to be stopped.

6. Must be pro-2A. If you want to talk about "common sense" gun control legislation then talk to me about it after we first try keeping criminals locked up and the border secured.

7. We must have a strong national defense, including the golden dome or whatever you want to call it. Any cuts to defense must be proven to be just wasteful spending.

8. Must cut spending to get our fiscal house in order, which also keeps inflation under control. We need to balance our budget.

9. We do need to work on simplyfying and making health care cheaper but not by adding costs to the national debt and not by stiffing providers and healthcare companies. We need to work with them and big pharma to control their costs instead of just classifying them as the enemy. We need to make healthcare cheaper for insurance companies, providers and big pharma so that everyone's healthcare will be cheaper.

10. We need to work on a different federal tax system for individuals with the goal of eliminating the IRS altogether (with the exception of businesses). No filing tax returns for refunds or payments. What's paid is what is paid.

11. Working toward Climate Change goals is a worthwhile endeavor but not by government mandate nor by government mandate against fossil fuels. And not by increasing costs to consumers and not by adding money onto our national debt. And don't give me any bologna that it saves us money when it actually costs us money.

12. No woke. No DEI. The "D" in DEI stands for discrimination. We don't achieve equity and inclusion by discrimination. No men in women's sports or bathrooms. The person I vote for must know what a woman is. Being progressive means you have automatically lost my vote. Kids will not be indoctrinated and parents have control of their minor's lives, not the children, not the schools, not the medical field, and not the government.

So, knowing my criteria, which Democrat should I vote for in 2028? This is leftists' chance to take me out of the Trump fold.
No Democrat on here will be able to say, since the DNC has not told them which candidate it will nominate.
 
There are so many constant anti-Trump threads day after day that I thought I'd ask those on the left which democrat I should vote for in 2028. Take your pick out of any Democrat you wish, whether they have talked about running or not but they must have at least a realistic shot at winning. These are my values and policies I base my voting on (in no particular order):

1. Must be pro-business or at least neutral anyway. I won't vote for anyone who is flat out pro-worker. (I'm a businessman).

2. Must be against illegal immigration and for stopping the flow of illegals to our border. Anyone crossing the border illegally cannot be granted asylum. Must also be against sanctuary cities and states and be against birthright citizenship.

3. Must be though on crime, criminals, and terrorism and believe that law enforcement are not the enemies of the people.

4. Doesn't believe in raising taxes in order to spend more money. Raising taxes to pay down the debt may be acceptable, depending on the details. But, no gaslighting and no trickery. One caveat, no raising tax revenues until the budget is balanced first and then those raised tax revenues go straight toward paying down the debt.

5. Must be pro-life and not for abortion on demand. Abortion should not be used as a method of birth control. No abortions allowed by providers receiving federal tax dollars. If so, federal tax dollars are to be stopped.

6. Must be pro-2A. If you want to talk about "common sense" gun control legislation then talk to me about it after we first try keeping criminals locked up and the border secured.

7. We must have a strong national defense, including the golden dome or whatever you want to call it. Any cuts to defense must be proven to be just wasteful spending.

8. Must cut spending to get our fiscal house in order, which also keeps inflation under control. We need to balance our budget.

9. We do need to work on simplyfying and making health care cheaper but not by adding costs to the national debt and not by stiffing providers and healthcare companies. We need to work with them and big pharma to control their costs instead of just classifying them as the enemy. We need to make healthcare cheaper for insurance companies, providers and big pharma so that everyone's healthcare will be cheaper.

10. We need to work on a different federal tax system for individuals with the goal of eliminating the IRS altogether (with the exception of businesses). No filing tax returns for refunds or payments. What's paid is what is paid.

11. Working toward Climate Change goals is a worthwhile endeavor but not by government mandate nor by government mandate against fossil fuels. And not by increasing costs to consumers and not by adding money onto our national debt. And don't give me any bologna that it saves us money when it actually costs us money.

12. No woke. No DEI. The "D" in DEI stands for discrimination. We don't achieve equity and inclusion by discrimination. No men in women's sports or bathrooms. The person I vote for must know what a woman is. Being progressive means you have automatically lost my vote. Kids will not be indoctrinated and parents have control of their minor's lives, not the children, not the schools, not the medical field, and not the government.

So, knowing my criteria, which Democrat should I vote for in 2028? This is leftists' chance to take me out of the Trump fold.

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Independent thinker Post #1 May 29, 2025 …~… 5. Must be pro-life and not for abortion on demand. Abortion should not be used as a method of birth control.

Luckyone Post #119 May 30, 2025. …~… As such, Abortion must be compromised on by both sides.

whut I say Post #124 …~… There is nothing to compromise with the
Lawless Republican White Christian Nationalist Party: They will stop at nothing to force full term gestation on all women including in states like Ohio. Ohio voters recently passed an amendment to the Ohio Constitution that essentially preserves the original RvW limit on abortion rights in the state

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No real American will ever vote for a Republican anything and everywhere ever ever again: if you cannot see what’s going on right now how the Republican Party is letting the Trump family and worldwide billionaires ripping American people off and after January 6, when he tried to overturn the election that he lost. We don’t want your vote and we’re probably not gonna need it.

If you can’t see how weak the Republican Party is and standing up to Vladimir Putin watching the Ukrainians die because Putin knows he has Donald Trump wrapped around his middle finger

That war would probably be over right now if Trump stood up to Putin 1/10 as much as Biden did and give the invaded people whatever they need to defend themselves and drive the fascist Russians out of their country

The Republican Party is a weak lead Lily delivered cowardly political party and I just passed a bill that has $4 trillion to the deficit because all they care about is extending the Trump tax tax cuts that did nothing did nothing for working in class people in this country

If you have to ask, which Democrat are gonna vote for. We don’t need you.

Wake up and smell the billionaires and the Republican Party oligarchy
You've done nothing but whine on about Republicans, but the thread is giving you the chance to voice which Democrats are viable to vote for in 2028. I'm British btw so no need to whine at me, I'm just pointing the obvious out.
 
You've done nothing but whine on about Republicans, but the thread is giving you the chance to voice which Democrats are viable to vote for in 2028. I'm British btw so no need to whine at me, I'm just pointing the obvious out.
I think we're missing the obvious here. Democrats don't have anyone worth voting for. All they have is Trump Hate. And I think I know why they hate Trump so much: He used to be more aligned with the old school anti-establishment democrats and didn't like the old school pro-establishment GOP. However, he saw there was no way to change the pro-establishment new school democrat party, so he changed parties and completely reformed the GOP into a party the people can rally behind. And he made it obvious to the people that the democrat party is not worth getting behind anymore because they became just like the old GOP. In the future when analysts discuss today's politics, Trump will always be known as the big one that got away from the democrat party and caused its demise.
 
Christianity was not always the predominant religion. The founding generation was less than 20% Cristian:
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Washington was a Freemason. It’s impossible that the father of our country was a Christian


The Reason the Republicsn Party can be Lawless:

The Bible says “Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.” But Father, we today honor you, and in your rightful place, Father, thank you for giving us this opportunity to restore faith in this country and be a blessing to the people of America​


I think we're missing the obvious here.
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On Wednesday, President Donald J. Trump invited Scott Turner, the 19th Secretary of the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD), to open the cabinet meeting of his second administration in prayer.

A former pastor of Prestonwood Baptist Church in Plano, Texas, Secretary Turner was also a nine-season player in the National Football League. Prior to joining the new administration, Turner worked with a firm committed to developing multi-family housing. He also served as a representative in the Texas State Legislature.

With a capacity crowd jammed into the White House Cabinet Room, President Trump invited Secretary Turner to pray. Here was how he addressed the Lord as he stood behind a seated President Trump,

Father, we thank you for this awesome privilege, to be in your presence. We thank you you’ve allowed us to see this day. The Bible says your mercies are new every morning, and Father God we give you the glory and honor. Thank you, God, for President Trump, for appointing us, for anointing us to do this job.​
Father, we pray you’ll give the president and the vice president wisdom as they lead. Father, I pray for all my colleagues around this table and in this room.​
Lord God, we pray that we would lead with a righteous clarity. Father God, as we serve the people of this country in every prospecticve agency, every job that we have, we would humble ourselves before you, and we would lead in a manner that you’ve called us to lead and to serve.​
The Bible says “Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.” But Father, we today honor you, and in your rightful place, Father, thank you for giving us this opportunity to restore faith in this country and be a blessing to the people of America.​
And Lord God, today in our meeting, we pray that you would be glorified in our conversation. In Jesus’ Name, Amen.
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We were not founded as a Christian Nation.

The people who say we were “founded”
as a Christian nation are perpetuating the white {billionaire subsidized} Republican Party’s Christian nationalist myth that America was founded in a COVENANT with the Biblical God of Abraham for the salvation of mankind through the sacrifice of his Son’s Virgin birth and subsequent death on the Cross and resurrection. …~… None of that sin and salvation stuff has anything to do with the actual founding and/or governing of the United States of America. ~ whut I said to St.TIM May 30, 2024#134 cvnnt
 
I think we're missing the obvious here. Democrats don't have anyone worth voting for. All they have is Trump Hate. And I think I know why they hate Trump so much: He used to be more aligned with the old school anti-establishment democrats and didn't like the old school pro-establishment GOP. However, he saw there was no way to change the pro-establishment new school democrat party, so he changed parties and completely reformed the GOP into a party the people can rally behind. And he made it obvious to the people that the democrat party is not worth getting behind anymore because they became just like the old GOP. In the future when analysts discuss today's politics, Trump will always be known as the big one that got away from the democrat party and caused its demise.
I'd just like to add that democrats made their party not worth getting behind anymore. Trump just took advantage of the fact that democrats lost their way, mostly by cozying up to the super rich establishment mega donors (including most of Hollywood) instead of the working class.
 
Christianity was not always the predominant religion. The founding generation was less than 20% Cristian:
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Washington was a Freemason. It’s impossible that the father of our country was a Christian


The Reason the Republicsn Party can be Lawless:

The Bible says “Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.” But Father, we today honor you, and in your rightful place, Father, thank you for giving us this opportunity to restore faith in this country and be a blessing to the people of America​



Yes yoh are

self righteous Christian fascism in action
IMG_2110.jpg


On Wednesday, President Donald J. Trump invited Scott Turner, the 19th Secretary of the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD), to open the cabinet meeting of his second administration in prayer.

A former pastor of Prestonwood Baptist Church in Plano, Texas, Secretary Turner was also a nine-season player in the National Football League. Prior to joining the new administration, Turner worked with a firm committed to developing multi-family housing. He also served as a representative in the Texas State Legislature.

With a capacity crowd jammed into the White House Cabinet Room, President Trump invited Secretary Turner to pray. Here was how he addressed the Lord as he stood behind a seated President Trump,

Father, we thank you for this awesome privilege, to be in your presence. We thank you you’ve allowed us to see this day. The Bible says your mercies are new every morning, and Father God we give you the glory and honor. Thank you, God, for President Trump, for appointing us, for anointing us to do this job.​
Father, we pray you’ll give the president and the vice president wisdom as they lead. Father, I pray for all my colleagues around this table and in this room.​
Lord God, we pray that we would lead with a righteous clarity. Father God, as we serve the people of this country in every prospecticve agency, every job that we have, we would humble ourselves before you, and we would lead in a manner that you’ve called us to lead and to serve.​
The Bible says “Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.” But Father, we today honor you, and in your rightful place, Father, thank you for giving us this opportunity to restore faith in this country and be a blessing to the people of America.​
And Lord God, today in our meeting, we pray that you would be glorified in our conversation. In Jesus’ Name, Amen.
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You are focusing far too much on your hatred of religion rather than on the working class Joes and Janes.
 
I'd just like to add that democrats made their party not worth getting behind anymore. Trump just took advantage of the fact that democrats lost their way, mostly by cozying up to the super rich establishment mega donors (including most of Hollywood) instead of the working class.
Just like what happened to the GOP during GW Bush. They made the country hate the GOP more than ever. When Obama started campaigning I seriously thought the GOP would shrivel up and die. Luckily for the GOP Obama became Obummer and Trump decided to run as a republican. Trump changed the party from pro-establishment elite serving corrupt money whores into a party the people could rally around. Ironically, the democraps became the party of pro-establishment elite serving corrupt money whores.
 
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