Survey: Democrats Favor Moderate Stance for 2028 Candidate

[dblack]

I supported most of that. Better to overspend by giving tax cuts To US than fraudulent NGOs that kicks back to the democrat party.

That's some mighty big small government.

 

[BackAgain]

But not at all difficult to veto a bill that doesn't have broad support.

Ordinarily, one wouldn’t veto an act which serves to attend to a matter in need of being addressed. Being dissatisfied with some of the methodology enshrined in the legislation is not a sound basis to simply scrap it.

I'll vote for the first candidate, from any party, who makes a believable pledge to do so.

So? I don’t care how you decide on which candidate you choose to support.

Also, what you’re seeking is (primarily) just ephemeral.

Just because legislation may not create “broad support” (whatever that may mean) doesn’t mean that it needs to be vetoed. Sometimes, in the real world, we accept half measures upon the assumption that doing something is better than doing nothing.

 

[Lockback]

"Look at me!!! Look at how moderate I AM!!!

 

[buckeye]

That's some mighty big small government.

I agree that our government is WAAAAY too big. Where would you cut it?

 

[dblack]

Ordinarily, one wouldn’t veto an act which serves to attend to a matter in need of being addressed.

If half the country opposes it, they should. ACA is the perfect case in point. It was passed on a pure party-line vote. Obama should have vetoed it.

 

[Seymour Flops]

If you leave out the Iran war.

Imagine if previous presidents had done all that they said they would do "if you leave out_________________." If past presidents had had that much fidelity to their campaign goals, we probably would have never needed Trump in the first place because both sides would be happy with their establishment leadership.

 

[Seymour Flops]

That's some mighty big small government.

"Small government" is something I realized would never happen. That was part of my political maturing. Government probably could not realistically shrink to a size you would consider "small." If it can, it definitely will not.

So, I realized that instead of daydreaming about a form of government that will never happen in the U.S. in mine or my grandchildren's lifetimes, I should look to what are the best (least harmful) policies for our big bloated government.

Examples:

Open Border and Instant "legal status" as a reward for crossing without papers, no vetting or vaccinaton required: Harmful big government policy.

Closed Border with assylum hearings being rarely granted and the assylee hopefuls being held in custody until their hearing and shipped home immediately if their assylum is not granted: Less harmful big government government policy.

Multiple endless overseas boots-on-ground wars with no exit plan and no specific goal: Harmful big government policy.

One war consisting of air and naval attacks and defense, with definite goals and frequent pauses in action to allow for negotiation: less harmful big government policy.

Yes, the lessor of two evils is still evil. But less evil than the alternative.

 

[BackAgain]

Its literally the definition of a liberal.
You support leftist policies. You are a leftist.
How does a supporter of trump policies favor small government? Please elaborate on that moonbattery.

No, you smug dishonest hack. Believe it or not, some rando like you doesn’t get to tell me what my views are.

In your own petty way, you have finally explained how you “think.” In your small-minded and self-important view, support of President Trump’s policies is somehow a contradiction of favoring smaller government.

You’re simply wrong.

Now, if you ever managed to give a **** about rational discussion, we could debate the tension between SOME of his policies and the desire to more effectively shrink government.

You see? I am perfectly willing to acknowledge some “tension” there. But, you refuse to coherently qualify any of your “all or nothing” contentions. As a consequence, you engage in a great deal of very silly hyperbole.

You think like one of our shitlibs — you can’t handle any shades of grey.

 

[TNHarley]

No, you smug dishonest hack. Believe it or not, some rando like you doesn’t get to tell me what my views are.

In your own petty way, you have finally explained how you “think.” In your small-minded and self-important view, support of President Trump’s policies is somehow a contradiction of favoring smaller government.

You’re simply wrong.

Now, if you ever managed to give a **** about rational discussion, we could debate the tension between SOME of his policies and the desire to more effectively shrink government.

You see? I am perfectly willing to acknowledge some “tension” there. But, you refuse to coherently qualify any of your “all or nothing” contentions. As a consequence, you engage in a great deal of very silly hyperbole.

You think like one of our shitlibs — you can’t handle any shades of grey.

I see your posts, dumb dumb.

 

[BackAgain]

If half the country opposes it, they should. ACA is the perfect case in point. It was passed on a pure party-line vote. Obama should have vetoed it.

I completely disagree.

Our people are absolutely “divided” politically, and that divide has become very sharp and clear. Therefore, when about “half” of the electorate dislikes some proposed bill, as a practical matter, it cannot get vetoed merely in that basis. It really shouldn’t be.

 

[buckeye]

Imagine if previous presidents had done all that they said they would do "if you leave out_________________." If past presidents had had that much fidelity to their campaign goals, we probably would have never needed Trump in the first place because both sides would be happy with their establishment leadership.

That is very true. Trump was an entrepreneur. Your ability to follow through is critical to your survival.

 

[Rawley]

Talarico is none of that, Rawley. Keep dreaming, because your nightmare is coming.

He's not a Vegan? He doesn't believe there are six genders? Why did say those things then?

 

[BackAgain]

I see your posts, dumb dumb.

Sadly, you childish assmunch, I’ve seen your posts, too.

You are remarkably shallow.

 

[TNHarley]

Sadly, you childish assmunch, I’ve seen your posts, too.

You are remarkably shallow.

At least im not a leftist. Nor a welshman.

 

[dblack]

I completely disagree.

Our people are absolutely “divided” politically, and that divide has become very sharp and clear.

The division is radically amplified by partisans. That's their business model.

Therefore, when about “half” of the electorate dislikes some proposed bill, as a practical matter, it cannot get vetoed merely in that basis. It really shouldn’t be.

Foisting significant change on society, without broad consensus, is a mistake. It might satisfy your party, but it leaves half the country angry and spoiling for revenge. It's no way to govern a nation.

 

[BackAgain]

At least im not a leftist. Nor a welshman.

Ok. Back to being a substitute for the dainty.

More shitlib type behavior from you.

You are far more leftist than you seem capable of grasping. Your false claim about me supposedly being a leftist is further evidence of your fundamental dishonesty.

 

[TNHarley]

Ok. Back to being a substitute for the dainty.

More shitlib type behavior from you.

You are far more leftist than you seem capable of grasping. Your false claim about me supposedly being a leftist is further evidence of your fundamental dishonesty.

Least he isnt a welshman

 

[BackAgain]

Least he isnt a welshman

Listen, the dainty, your trolling and baiting efforts are as feeble as your efforts to defend the shit you spew.

 

[jacksonlamb]

When Trumpers start supporting changing the sex of children based on their fantasies or forcing females to compete in sports with screwed up males or allowing long time criminals to not pay a price for their crimes or favoring one race over another or opening our borders to every degenerate in the world, I'll think about what you say here.

I hate the Iran war, but pretty much support what Trump has done.

Leftists are insane today, flat out insane.

No, they are not. Your interpr of them is very flawed.

 

[jacksonlamb]

Listen, the dainty, your trolling and baiting efforts are as feeble as your efforts to defend the shit you spew.

^ How ironically projecting