Which caliber is best for stopping a crook? Pistol, rifle or shotgun?

[Dagosa]

That's right.
There's no state or federal license required to travel, not can there be.
So there's -one- right that disproves your claim.

Have no idea what you’re trying to say. You must have a reading problem. Ah, you don’t need a license to use a public way. You do not have any right to use a public way ( roads) in a private motor vehicle in general unlicense because your right to use a public way is not absolute. No different then firearm possession. It’s not absolute. It’s regulated. Case closed before you embarrass yourself anymore.

 

[Dagosa]

That's right.
There's no state or federal license required to travel, not can there be.
So there's -one- right that disproves your claim.

???
Public ways are guaranteed access to any citizen. It’s the operation of a standard motor vehicle on a public way that requires a licenses. Public access is constitutionally guaranteed to any public domain. But they are all rights and they are regulated because none of your rights are absolute.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Have no idea what you’re trying to say.

Because you choose not to.
Thank you for making it clear i need waste no more time on you.

 

[Dagosa]

You said UBC works in Illinois
It works because you need a state license to worn a gun.
So, with Illinois as the model you chose, for UBC to work at the national level you'd nee a federal license to buy a gun.
How long do you think that would stand in federal court?

A question you cannot answer because you know your statement is a lie.
Disagree?
Pick 5 basic exercises of a constitutionally protected rights and cite their accompanying federal licensure.
Dollars to doughnuts says you will, again, fail.

No I did not say that that at all. You need to quote me instead of making up stuff. You seem confused . UBC for purchase of firearms and ammo DO NOT require a carry license. You do that with a FOID If you don’t have a permit.

You’re funny asking the question about federal court adjudication. you’re not an arm chair SC expert. We only know what’s lawful now.

 

[Dagosa]

question you cannot answer because you know your statement is a lie.
Disagree?
Pick 5 basic exercises of a constitutionally protected rights and cite their accompanying federal licensure.
Dollars to doughnuts says you will, again, fail.

You can read can you. I did already.

 

[Dagosa]

There's no state or federal license required to travel, not can there be.

You make these completely off your head comments that have no basis in fact.
What do you think a passport is if it isn’t a required federally supported “license” to travel abroad in accordance with the FAA or passage through federal controlled borders. It’s a required document that allows you to practice your right of free passage on public controlled and regulated ways, just like a car license does for inta and interstate travel in an auto you decide to drive. The Feds through the states control a plethora of licenses and passage documents to practice your rights…..all regulated.

 

[Blues Man]

And driving clearly implies access to public ways.
Are you really that Fking stupid ?
Clearly access to public ways and places of assembly is guaranteed under the constitution. Fourteenth Amendment of the US Constitution -- Rights Guaranteed: Privileges and Immunities of Citizenship, Due Process, and Equal Protection

There is no right to drive a car.

 

[M14 Shooter]

There is no right to drive a car.

Correct.
There -is- a right to travel; the state cannot require a license for this.

 

[Dagosa]

There is no right to drive a car.

Who said there was. That’s part of the regulation to your right of access. The right you have is access to public ways. What part of that don’t you understand. Your access is highly regulated. That along with all your rights in the bill of rights is regulated. That includes requiring, licensed and registered vehicles. It’s also the federal state and local regulation of firearms. There is not one square foot of territory in the United states where firearms are not regulated……not one.

just like it’s a privilege to operate a private vehicle on a public way because autos are tightly regulated, it’s a privilege to possess a full auto firearm. You need a license, registration and BCs to transfer them.


Sorry you're unaware . There are thousands of full autos in the public domain , yet few are used in gun crimes.
.

 

[Blues Man]

Who said there was. That’s part of the regulation to your right of access. The right you have is access to public ways. What part of that don’t you understand. Your access is highly regulated. That along with all your rights in the bill of rights is regulated. That includes requiring, licensed and registered vehicles. It’s also the federal state and local regulation of firearms. There is not one square foot of territory in the United states where firearms are not regulated……not one.

just like it’s a privilege to operate a private vehicle on a public way because autos are tightly regulated, it’s a privilege to possess a full auto firearm. You need a license, registration and BCs to transfer them.


Sorry you're unaware .
.

Go ahead and try to ride a horse or a bicycle on a federal interstate and see what happens.

And it's not a privilege to possess an automatic rifle anyone who can legally buy any other firearm can legally buy an automatic rifle as long as that can pay the extra tax.

Automatic weapons are legal, but it takes a lot to get one of the 630,000 in the U.S.

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So stop pretending you know anything about gun laws.

 

[Dagosa]

Go ahead and try to ride a horse or a bicycle on a federal interstate and see what happens.

And it's not a privilege to possess an automatic rifle anyone who can legally buy any other firearm can legally buy an automatic rifle as long as that can pay the extra tax.

Automatic weapons are legal, but it takes a lot to get one of the 630,000 in the U.S.

When most people think of machine guns, they think of war zones and gangster movies. For some enthusiasts though, they're collectors items – albeit expensive and hard to get. That's because machine guns are governed by legislation from a bygone era, one of the last vestiges of stringent federal...

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So stop pretending you know anything about gun laws.

What a dofus. Automobiles are legal too, but highly regulated. You seem to know little about auto registration. Did mommy drive you to school today ? Oh, a reading lesson. When someone talks about driving regulations, it doesn’t mean that is the only means that are regulated. You guys will do anything to feel right about something, even make up sht.

it’s not a right to own a full auto rifle. The federal firearms act indicates the exceptions to accepted normal self defense arms. . You didn’t know that an “ act” is a constitutional subscript did you. They and other implements are regulated. Why don’t you read the Heller decision, this time for understanding. It’s amazing how misinformed you guys are.

 

[Blues Man]

What a dofus. Automobiles are legal too, but highly regulated. You seem to know little about auto registration. Did mommy drive you to school today ?

it’s not a right to own a full auto rifle. The federal firearms act says so. You didn’t know that an “ act” is a constitutional subscript did you. They and other implements are regulated. Why don’t you read the Heller decision, this time for understanding. It’s amazing how misinformed you guys are.

Automobiles aren't highly regulated.

Literally anyone can buy one.

 

[M14 Shooter]

And it's not a privilege to possess an automatic rifle anyone who can legally buy any other firearm can legally buy an automatic rifle as long as that can pay the extra tax.

Under federal law, machine-guns are shall-issue.

 

[Blues Man]

Under federal law, machine-guns are shall-issue.

Exactly.

Anyone who can pay the extra tax can get one.

The only limitation is that the general public can't buy one manufactured after some date I don't feel like looking up right now.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Exactly.
Anyone who can pay the extra tax can get one.
The only limitation is that the general public can't buy one manufactured after some date I don't feel like looking up right now.

May 1986.
And its registered, not manufactured -- if you find a WW2 MP-40 that's not registered with the BATFE, you cannot register it.

 

[Dagosa]

Automobiles aren't highly regulated.

Literally anyone can buy one.

You can’t be serious. That is crazy. Like you do a car, Do you have to register your fire arm available for national reference by every law enforce the agency in the country, and, reregister it every year and pay a tax in ownership pass a written AND OPERATING test to operate ? Do they set up road blocks looking for anyone impaired and carrying a gun at the same time.
Automobiles and driver qualification are much more regulated then firearms and their owners.
A cop can have you car taken and confiscated if you engage in a bunch of civil offenses, let alone criminal. Now apologize for such a miss statement. Auto ownership or operation is very highly regulated.

Go ahead, drive around with illegal tags on your auto and an expired license….or on3 that pollutes. We never talked about the regulations for repair,inspection and pollution.

 

[Blues Man]

You can’t be serious. That is crazy. Like you do a car, Do you have to register your fire arm available for national reference by every law enforce the agency in the country, and, reregister it every year and pay a tax in ownership pass a written AND OPERATING test to operate ? Do they set up road blocks looking for anyone impaired and carrying a gun at the same time.
Automobiles and driver qualification are much more regulated then firearms and their owners.
A cop can have you car taken and confiscated if you engage in a bunch of civil offenses, let alone criminal. Now apologize for such a miss statement. Auto ownership or operation is very highly regulated.

I don't have to register a car.

I can buy any car I want and never register or insure it.

Do you know when you need to register and insure a car?

only when you plan on driving it on state roads that's when.

 

[Ringo]

Crossbow!

 

[Flash]

Best thing I know for home defense is a 12 gauge with a light so you just point and shoot. Put the light where you want it to go. I'd use birdshot....#4 or #7. The main thing is stopping power without too much penetration.

At close range bird shot can kill but probably won't. It will sure as hell take the fight out of somebody.

 

[Flash]

Try your fist as it is attached and needs not ammo. It works for me.

Yea, right.