Where is this mountain of evidence for evolution?

[S.J.]

Believers say the world is too perfect for there not to be a god but that's what Martians said 4 billion years ago.

The pharaoh's were martians and they mixed their DNA with monkeys. How? By fucking them of course.

Is that what happened? I always thought Superman came down from Krypton and fucked the monkeys. Learn something new every day.

 

[sealybobo]

Whatever works for you. I know several people that hold that view.

You seem like you would really enjoy watching the Cosmos series 1&2. They dont prove there is no god but they show when and where the concept came from why we believe and how the reality is so much better than the stories passed on to us from the ancients.

Whatever works for you. I know several people that hold that view.

You seem like you would really enjoy watching the Cosmos series 1&2. They dont prove there is no god but they show when and where the concept came from why we believe and how the reality is so much better than the stories passed on to us from the ancients.

I might watch it if I find time at some point.

Its a must watch for anyone as curious and smart as you. Not blowing smoke up your butt. Just based on the threads I've seen you on I know you'll be glad you saw it.
I try to explain things I learned from it to my dad and he gets mad. Lol. He says "then science is stupid" when I try to explain to him why or how there may be no god. He gets very uncomfortable. Certainly not open minded. And its not like evolution disproves god but he has it in his mind god put us here and he can't believe we are related to chickens and trees.

Gee, I wonder why.

Maybe if he could comprehend science it wouldnt irritate him so much.

Maybe if he wasn't brainwashed from birth.

This is who us athiests have to argue. Not people with facts or knowledge bit instead people who are uncomfortable with the facts.

If you haven't watched the cosmos then you are at a disadvantage knowledgewise.

 

[sealybobo]

Believers say the world is too perfect for there not to be a god but that's what Martians said 4 billion years ago.

The pharaoh's were martians and they mixed their DNA with monkeys. How? By fucking them of course.

Is that what happened? I always thought Superman came down from Krypton and fucked the monkeys. Learn something new every day.

If you came to earth from another planet and the closest thing to your species was monkey would you try to breed with it? As a scientist I would have to try.

 

[SUPERMAN1929]

I'm a pretty scientific person but I carry the belief that there is a god and with that belief as far as I have seen through college and tv shows, large evolution revolves around the fast that we must have evolved because there really is no other option. The similarities between all life are because all life was created by one god and all of the programming that life was given to evolve within it was programmed from the start for survival. I'll watch the show but really I would have to see that kind of evolution take place with my own eyes or more missing links. I've seen pictures and stuff but most of them I ever see in books are just made up pictures of how they theorized that it would have happened using fake animals to make the process work. I understand why people believe in it but like I said it's just not what I feel is correct. Not like I have more evidence of a god but the idea of sudden explosive evolution in short time spans is just as crazy to me. If I could throw a billion fish out of the water and they wouldn't start growing legs and breathing air. They'd all just squirm around until they died.

 

[S.J.]

Believers say the world is too perfect for there not to be a god but that's what Martians said 4 billion years ago.

The pharaoh's were martians and they mixed their DNA with monkeys. How? By fucking them of course.

Is that what happened? I always thought Superman came down from Krypton and fucked the monkeys. Learn something new every day.

If you came to earth from another planet and the closest thing to your species was monkey would you try to breed with it? As a scientist I would have to try.

I truly believe you came to Earth from another planet, and I believe you would probably fuck a monkey.

 

[sealybobo]

I'm a pretty scientific person but I carry the belief that there is a god and with that belief as far as I have seen through college and tv shows, large evolution revolves around the fast that we must have evolved because there really is no other option. The similarities between all life are because all life was created by one god and all of the programming that life was given to evolve within it was programmed from the start for survival. I'll watch the show but really I would have to see that kind of evolution take place with my own eyes or more missing links. I've seen pictures and stuff but most of them I ever see in books are just made up pictures of how they theorized that it would have happened using fake animals to make the process work. I understand why people believe in it but like I said it's just not what I feel is correct. Not like I have more evidence of a god but the idea of sudden explosive evolution in short time spans is just as crazy to me. If I could throw a billion fish out of the water and they wouldn't start growing legs and breathing air. They'd all just squirm around until they died.

It takes too long to observe

In fact our eyes are still better suited to see under water. They haven't evolved to see as well as our ancestors saw when we lived in water. Watch the cosmos they will explain. The truth is so much better than the god myth.

And what we dont know they admit. But what you're doing is assuming a god did it. Without any proof. Stop it. Lol. God has no place in a serious conversation about how we got here.

 

[cnm]

Not like I have more evidence of a god but the idea of sudden explosive evolution in short time spans is just as crazy to me. If I could throw a billion fish out of the water and they wouldn't start growing legs and breathing air. They'd all just squirm around until they died.

Because it is crazy. What part of 'millions of years' don't you get?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Based upon this thread, I would say that there is plenty of evidence that evolution has only affected some of us.

 

[SUPERMAN1929]

I'm a pretty scientific person but I carry the belief that there is a god and with that belief as far as I have seen through college and tv shows, large evolution revolves around the fast that we must have evolved because there really is no other option. The similarities between all life are because all life was created by one god and all of the programming that life was given to evolve within it was programmed from the start for survival. I'll watch the show but really I would have to see that kind of evolution take place with my own eyes or more missing links. I've seen pictures and stuff but most of them I ever see in books are just made up pictures of how they theorized that it would have happened using fake animals to make the process work. I understand why people believe in it but like I said it's just not what I feel is correct. Not like I have more evidence of a god but the idea of sudden explosive evolution in short time spans is just as crazy to me. If I could throw a billion fish out of the water and they wouldn't start growing legs and breathing air. They'd all just squirm around until they died.

It takes too long to observe

In fact our eyes are still better suited to see under water. They haven't evolved to see as well as our ancestors saw when we lived in water. Watch the cosmos they will explain. The truth is so much better than the god myth.

And what we dont know they admit. But what you're doing is assuming a god did it. Without any proof. Stop it. Lol. God has no place in a serious conversation about how we got here.

But I thought someone said earlier that it happened in rapid bursts? There is no evidence of monkeys changing to humans other than the similar DNA which is explainable by intelligent design. If everything was created by one deity then wouldn't they be similar in a way? Saying the whole organs developed over time is stupid because they don't function unless they have all their parts together. Too complex to simply pop up. The rapid thing just has never been observed and lacks any real evidence. Claiming it's ignorant to not blindly trust evolution happened is against the scientific method. Science to me needs to be observed or be able to be recreated. This is more like detective work just making up the missing parts because you don't see other options lacking substance.

I know microorganisms and bacteria can change much more than more complex creatures but tell me whenever they start to form into insects are something more impressive.

 

[sealybobo]

I'm a pretty scientific person but I carry the belief that there is a god and with that belief as far as I have seen through college and tv shows, large evolution revolves around the fast that we must have evolved because there really is no other option. The similarities between all life are because all life was created by one god and all of the programming that life was given to evolve within it was programmed from the start for survival. I'll watch the show but really I would have to see that kind of evolution take place with my own eyes or more missing links. I've seen pictures and stuff but most of them I ever see in books are just made up pictures of how they theorized that it would have happened using fake animals to make the process work. I understand why people believe in it but like I said it's just not what I feel is correct. Not like I have more evidence of a god but the idea of sudden explosive evolution in short time spans is just as crazy to me. If I could throw a billion fish out of the water and they wouldn't start growing legs and breathing air. They'd all just squirm around until they died.

It takes too long to observe

In fact our eyes are still better suited to see under water. They haven't evolved to see as well as our ancestors saw when we lived in water. Watch the cosmos they will explain. The truth is so much better than the god myth.

And what we dont know they admit. But what you're doing is assuming a god did it. Without any proof. Stop it. Lol. God has no place in a serious conversation about how we got here.

But I thought someone said earlier that it happened in rapid bursts? There is no evidence of monkeys changing to humans other than the similar DNA which is explainable by intelligent design. If everything was created by one deity then wouldn't they be similar in a way? Saying the whole organs developed over time is stupid because they don't function unless they have all their parts together. Too complex to simply pop up. The rapid thing just has never been observed and lacks any real evidence. Claiming it's ignorant to not blindly trust evolution happened is against the scientific method. Science to me needs to be observed or be able to be recreated. This is more like detective work just making up the missing parts because you don't see other options lacking substance.

I know microorganisms and bacteria can change much more than more complex creatures but tell me whenever they start to form into insects are something more impressive.

It takes too long to show you. Today I talked to this really really smart guy at work. I just started so I dont say I dont believe in god and today he made a good point and so did you. Nothing disproves god. But even he strongly defended evolution. For example theres only 2% that makes us any different than monkeys. He explained it much better. I brought up how I find it amazing that cold and warm blooded creatures were once related.

Anyways long story short is ants could have sprung up independently of humans. Or reptiles. Etc. Since we dont know how life started we dont know for sure it came from outer space via comet or maybe started on earth when conditions were right. We think all life is related but might not be. Its like the big bang. Not 100% sure its right but what's your theory?

And regardless of the facts it won't disprove god. Just a bunch of religions will be exposed but they'll survive because people want to believe.

Want me to tell you your future? How many people go to psychics?

 

[cnm]

But I thought someone said earlier that it happened in rapid bursts?

Ah, I can see you're just too scientific a person to be fooled by scientific explanations and consensus.

 

[Marxist]

I'm sure the OP has talked to a biologist.

 

[Abishai100]

Mutation Modeling


I want to explore this issue through the lens of crypto-zoology and the study of mutations (or mutants).

There are a number of pseudo-scientists as well as respected scientists who believe that there could exist a number of species on planet Earth that are as of yet uncategorized and/or undetected.

While these species may be residing in Earth's more hard-to-reach ecosystems (such as the deep ocean abyss and convoluted cave enclosures), they are believed to be out there and maybe even flourishing.

After all, many scholars and science critics believe that the fabled Loch Ness Monster is simply a Plesiosaur dinosaur who survived the Jurassic Era extinction event.

Imagine that a crypro-zoologist gives the following controversial address to a science-fiction student fan club at Harvard University:

"What if there are humanoid creatures (i.e., mermaids) living deep in Earth's oceans that are as-of-yet undetected? Certainly the observation of strangely-shaped hybridized organic life such as seahorses (underwater creatures that actually possess heads shaped like a horse) suggests that there could be creatures undetected that resemble humanoids in shape at least."

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In other words, there hypothetically exists a mountain of evidence in support of evolutionary theory (i.e., species flourish through geometric and arithmetic adaptation) in the realm of 'scientific modeling.'

I have to admit that if I'm willing to watch a science-fiction Hollywood (USA) movie about an alien walking around among humanity disguised as a human, I must concede the imaginative possibility that a mermaid could crawl out of the ocean abyss and walk among humanity disguised as a human (perhaps through some chemical or surgical transformation procedure).

Certainly, relevant sci-fi Hollywood (USA) movies such as "The Fly" (1986) and "Leviathan" (1989) indicate a social fascination with 'mutation' as it relates to speculations on evolutionary theory. That is to say, doesn't imagination itself prove something unique about human intelligence and hence evolution?

"The pen is truly mightier than the sword."

 

[SUPERMAN1929]

But I thought someone said earlier that it happened in rapid bursts?

Ah, I can see you're just too scientific a person to be fooled by scientific explanations and consensus.

It's made up explanations with no observations of it happening. I've read it and watched shows about it. It's the thought process of 1 and 2 are here and 5 so there has to be 3 and 4 even though we've never witnessed the sequence. I choose to believe the in between doesn't exist until it's proven. If you prove it I'm open to here more about it but I have yet to hear any proof at all. I don't have proof either but evolutionists pretend it's proven.

 

[Steven_R]

We've not only seen it happen in labs via bacteria, but we've also seen it in the wild. Look up ring species. Look bacteria that eats petroleum and plastics, something that did not exist before 80 years ago. Look up Tiktaalik rosae. It's there.

 

[SUPERMAN1929]

We've not only seen it happen in labs via bacteria, but we've also seen it in the wild. Look up ring species. Look bacteria that eats petroleum and plastics, something that did not exist before 80 years ago. Look up Tiktaalik rosae. It's there.

I understand that those things happen but the thing to me is that it's still a bacteria and it's still a bird or deer or whatever the animal is. It's not evidence of the significant change needed to develop entire new organs or limbs to survive.

 

[Old Rocks]

We have been observing the biology of this planet with understanding but for less than two centuries. Major evolutionary processes, such as the develoment of lungs and limbs occur on the scale of millions of years, not mere centuries. However, between decoding of DNA and the fossil record, we have a rather good record of the manner in which evolution occurred.

 

[foggedinn]

This who thread reminds me of a poor man's version of the riddle of angels and pins.

 

[cnm]

I don't have proof either but evolutionists pretend it's proven.

Do you think there's a lot of evidence for evolution, more than for any other theory?

 

[SUPERMAN1929]

I don't have proof either but evolutionists pretend it's proven.

Do you think there's a lot of evidence for evolution, more than for any other theory?

No.