Where is this mountain of evidence for evolution?

[orogenicman]

I only have a masters in mechanical engineering with lots of physics background. And you? Waffle house cook?

MBA with a focus on economics.

Right. So you have little, if any science education, and no field experience. And that qualifies you to do what? Manage an Arbys?

What school of physics do they teach at the University of Tehran? String theory and brane worlds are out - might offend Allah....

Perhaps dancing djin explain the weak attractive force of gravity?

They actually do teach physics there. They don't at Liberty University. Is that where you graduated?
Now, can we get back on topic?

Actually I work in the field of IT - a solid science. My undergrad is in CIS. I'm working on my PhD. as we speak. If Guano has an education, he has never demonstrated it.

That's great. I'm happy for you. That said, computers are very useful in many sciences, even biology and geology. But being expert at IT doesn't make you an expert at the biological theory of evolution. In fact, you could go through your entire professional career in IT without ever being exposed to a fossil or performing a dissection. So, as I said, you don't have the education or field experience to qualify as having any kind of expertise in the field of evolutionary science. But I would highly recommend that before you get your PhD that you learn something about how the scientific method works, because if you don't, I'm not sure what good your degree is going to be to anyone, much less yourself.

 

[Uncensored2008]

That's great. I'm happy for you. That said, computers are very useful in many sciences, even biology and geology. But being expert at IT doesn't make you an expert at the biological theory of evolution. In fact, you could go through your entire professional career in IT without ever being exposed to a fossil or performing a dissection. So, as I said, you don't have the education or field experience to qualify as having any kind of expertise in the field of evolutionary science. But I would highly recommend that before you get your PhD that you learn something about how the scientific method works, because if you don't, I'm not sure what good your degree is going to be to anyone, much less yourself.

It is "computer science" for a reason. These devices aren't magic, they are science in action, AKA technology. My field of science has produced more results than any other in the field.

So do you have a point?

 

[Mr.Right]

Has anyone else noticed that the thread query "where is the mountain of evidence for evolution" is nothing more than a burqa covering the goal of the fundamentalist to denigrate science?

No but I did notice however that no definitive evidence was offered and that people like dawkins and stephen hawking went as far as to suggest alien intervention

They said why rule out aliens if your gonna believe it must have been a god. Not that they believe in aliens.

You know what? The only reason I haven't ignored you yet, is because your stupidity makes me laugh out loud. It really does. Keep up the good work.

I can understand you're angry and frustrated. The question regarding evidence for evolution is demonstrated overwhelmingly by the science community. You deny it because biological history directly contradicts your YEC'ist fantasies and literal interpretation of the various bibles. It's unfortunate for you because you are the stereotype of the raving, hair-on-fire, out of control thumper, the Taliban who is marginalized by a society that keeps you on a choke collar.

And its not like there is only one bit of evidence for evolution. Its a collection of a lot of reasons why we know evolution is real. You see how that one fool wanted to argue about I can't even remember what it was now but he just threw it at me like it was suppose to prove something. Something about a micro organism being resistant to antibiotics? And that means what? So you can'never give them enough evidence because they will argue anything science says. One at a time. Even if science has 1000 reasons or a million.

You can also throw shit in the air a thousand times. None of it will ascend to the heavans, to become fact. it will always obey gravity and hit you in the face.

 

[cnm]

Thanks for confirming what I said about the lack of substance in your argument.

I had the impression you were a substantial fossil.

 

[orogenicman]

That's great. I'm happy for you. That said, computers are very useful in many sciences, even biology and geology. But being expert at IT doesn't make you an expert at the biological theory of evolution. In fact, you could go through your entire professional career in IT without ever being exposed to a fossil or performing a dissection. So, as I said, you don't have the education or field experience to qualify as having any kind of expertise in the field of evolutionary science. But I would highly recommend that before you get your PhD that you learn something about how the scientific method works, because if you don't, I'm not sure what good your degree is going to be to anyone, much less yourself.

It is "computer science" for a reason. These devices aren't magic, they are science in action, AKA technology. My field of science has produced more results than any other in the field.

So do you have a point?

I didn't say that they were magic. I've worked on desktop computers myself since 1994, but took some programming in the 1970s and 1980s. The first computer I worked on was a DEC 10, then an IBM 360. So I know my way around them, but don't claim to be an IT expert by any stretch. So I wouldn't pretend to tell you your business. However, I am a published geologist who also studied anthropology for four years before I changed majors. So when I tell you that I am an expert on the subject of evolution, you can understand that I am telling the truth. So don't try to tell me my business. But I guess my point is that the sciences that conduct research in evolution use the exact same scientific method that every other science does, including computer science. So it might be useful to have a working knowledge of the method before you get that PhD.

 

[cnm]

I don't have to prove you wrong, you have to prove yourself right, and on that you fail miserably.

No, he doesn't have to prove anything, science does not do proof. He presents evidence as he's been invited to do, at which point you'll reject it because you are a living fossil.

 

[orogenicman]

I don't have to prove you wrong, you have to prove yourself right, and on that you fail miserably.

No, he doesn't have to prove anything, science does not do proof. He presents evidence as he's been invited to do, at which point you'll reject it because you are a living fossil.

Just ignore him. All he knows how to do is troll.

 

[cnm]

That's not evidence...

 

[eots]

That's great. I'm happy for you. That said, computers are very useful in many sciences, even biology and geology. But being expert at IT doesn't make you an expert at the biological theory of evolution. In fact, you could go through your entire professional career in IT without ever being exposed to a fossil or performing a dissection. So, as I said, you don't have the education or field experience to qualify as having any kind of expertise in the field of evolutionary science. But I would highly recommend that before you get your PhD that you learn something about how the scientific method works, because if you don't, I'm not sure what good your degree is going to be to anyone, much less yourself.

It is "computer science" for a reason. These devices aren't magic, they are science in action, AKA technology. My field of science has produced more results than any other in the field.

So do you have a point?

I didn't say that they were magic. I've worked on desktop computers myself since 1994, but took some programming in the 1970s and 1980s. The first computer I worked on was a DEC 10, then an IBM 360. So I know my way around them, but don't claim to be an IT expert by any stretch. So I wouldn't pretend to tell you your business. However, I am a published geologist who also studied anthropology for four years before I changed majors. So when I tell you that I am an expert on the subject of evolution, you can understand that I am telling the truth. So don't try to tell me my business. But I guess my point is that the sciences that conduct research in evolution use the exact same scientific method that every other science does, including computer science. So it might be useful to have a working knowledge of the method before you get that PhD.

I did peyote in the desert alone on the summer solstice and during the beautiful moment that transitions between the late eve and early morn..dawn..I glimpsed eternity, I saw the perfection of all creation and touched the face of god ..

 

[Hollie]

No but I did notice however that no definitive evidence was offered and that people like dawkins and stephen hawking went as far as to suggest alien intervention

They said why rule out aliens if your gonna believe it must have been a god. Not that they believe in aliens.

You know what? The only reason I haven't ignored you yet, is because your stupidity makes me laugh out loud. It really does. Keep up the good work.

I can understand you're angry and frustrated. The question regarding evidence for evolution is demonstrated overwhelmingly by the science community. You deny it because biological history directly contradicts your YEC'ist fantasies and literal interpretation of the various bibles. It's unfortunate for you because you are the stereotype of the raving, hair-on-fire, out of control thumper, the Taliban who is marginalized by a society that keeps you on a choke collar.

And its not like there is only one bit of evidence for evolution. Its a collection of a lot of reasons why we know evolution is real. You see how that one fool wanted to argue about I can't even remember what it was now but he just threw it at me like it was suppose to prove something. Something about a micro organism being resistant to antibiotics? And that means what? So you can'never give them enough evidence because they will argue anything science says. One at a time. Even if science has 1000 reasons or a million.

You can also throw shit in the air a thousand times. None of it will ascend to the heavans, to become fact. it will always obey gravity and hit you in the face.

Such lovely folks you angry, self-hating fundies.

 

[eots]

They said why rule out aliens if your gonna believe it must have been a god. Not that they believe in aliens.

You know what? The only reason I haven't ignored you yet, is because your stupidity makes me laugh out loud. It really does. Keep up the good work.

I can understand you're angry and frustrated. The question regarding evidence for evolution is demonstrated overwhelmingly by the science community. You deny it because biological history directly contradicts your YEC'ist fantasies and literal interpretation of the various bibles. It's unfortunate for you because you are the stereotype of the raving, hair-on-fire, out of control thumper, the Taliban who is marginalized by a society that keeps you on a choke collar.

And its not like there is only one bit of evidence for evolution. Its a collection of a lot of reasons why we know evolution is real. You see how that one fool wanted to argue about I can't even remember what it was now but he just threw it at me like it was suppose to prove something. Something about a micro organism being resistant to antibiotics? And that means what? So you can'never give them enough evidence because they will argue anything science says. One at a time. Even if science has 1000 reasons or a million.

You can also throw shit in the air a thousand times. None of it will ascend to the heavans, to become fact. it will always obey gravity and hit you in the face.

Such lovely folks you angry, self-hating fundies.

They said why rule out aliens if your gonna believe it must have been a god. Not that they believe in aliens.

You know what? The only reason I haven't ignored you yet, is because your stupidity makes me laugh out loud. It really does. Keep up the good work.

I can understand you're angry and frustrated. The question regarding evidence for evolution is demonstrated overwhelmingly by the science community. You deny it because biological history directly contradicts your YEC'ist fantasies and literal interpretation of the various bibles. It's unfortunate for you because you are the stereotype of the raving, hair-on-fire, out of control thumper, the Taliban who is marginalized by a society that keeps you on a choke collar.

And its not like there is only one bit of evidence for evolution. Its a collection of a lot of reasons why we know evolution is real. You see how that one fool wanted to argue about I can't even remember what it was now but he just threw it at me like it was suppose to prove something. Something about a micro organism being resistant to antibiotics? And that means what? So you can'never give them enough evidence because they will argue anything science says. One at a time. Even if science has 1000 reasons or a million.

You can also throw shit in the air a thousand times. None of it will ascend to the heavans, to become fact. it will always obey gravity and hit you in the face.

Such lovely folks you angry, self-hating fundies.

No offence but what soulless beast you can be

 

[orogenicman]

That's great. I'm happy for you. That said, computers are very useful in many sciences, even biology and geology. But being expert at IT doesn't make you an expert at the biological theory of evolution. In fact, you could go through your entire professional career in IT without ever being exposed to a fossil or performing a dissection. So, as I said, you don't have the education or field experience to qualify as having any kind of expertise in the field of evolutionary science. But I would highly recommend that before you get your PhD that you learn something about how the scientific method works, because if you don't, I'm not sure what good your degree is going to be to anyone, much less yourself.

It is "computer science" for a reason. These devices aren't magic, they are science in action, AKA technology. My field of science has produced more results than any other in the field.

So do you have a point?

I didn't say that they were magic. I've worked on desktop computers myself since 1994, but took some programming in the 1970s and 1980s. The first computer I worked on was a DEC 10, then an IBM 360. So I know my way around them, but don't claim to be an IT expert by any stretch. So I wouldn't pretend to tell you your business. However, I am a published geologist who also studied anthropology for four years before I changed majors. So when I tell you that I am an expert on the subject of evolution, you can understand that I am telling the truth. So don't try to tell me my business. But I guess my point is that the sciences that conduct research in evolution use the exact same scientific method that every other science does, including computer science. So it might be useful to have a working knowledge of the method before you get that PhD.

I did peyote in the desert alone on the summer solstice and during the beautiful moment that transitions between the late eve and early morn..dawn..I glimpsed eternity, I saw the perfection of all creation and touched the face of god ..

That explains a lot more about you than you apparently realize.

 

[PredFan]

The problem with you is an identical problem throughout the population who believes in Creationism; you don't know the first thing about evolution and you form your opinions based on ignorance. Here you are confusing the Big Bang Theory with Evolution.

I have confused nothing. the Big Bang, Abiogenesis and evolution are all part of the same thing. A naturalistic origin of life. I may not be an expert on evolution, but I will debate you on it anytime you like. you say I don't understand it. I assure you, that I do. so, you want to debate it? bring it on. I'll even let you choose the topic.

Well you can't debate it if you don't know shit about it and it's obvious that you don't know shit about it.

So, you're backing down? You're refusing to debate me? You do realize how that makes you look, don't you? You've just confirmed my suspician. You're a blowhard and a coward. Otherwise, you'd jump at the opportunity to make look like a fool.

I can't debate someone who has no knowledge of the subject, if you want to label it backing down just to save your ignorant pride, do whatever you want.

I'll debate anyone about anything. if you want to claim that your opponent is ignorant just to save your ignorant pride, well, you could do whatever you want.the fact is that you are a craven coward.

Of course YOU will debate anyone about anything. You don't know anything so it's no real effort for you. I am not afraid, that is just a lie you tell yourself. I just won't bother arguing with someone who knows nothing about the subject. It's a waste of my time. I would spend all my time educating you instead of debating. That's boring and tedious and you won't listen anyway.

You can remain stupid, I don't care. Good bye.

 

[eots]

That's great. I'm happy for you. That said, computers are very useful in many sciences, even biology and geology. But being expert at IT doesn't make you an expert at the biological theory of evolution. In fact, you could go through your entire professional career in IT without ever being exposed to a fossil or performing a dissection. So, as I said, you don't have the education or field experience to qualify as having any kind of expertise in the field of evolutionary science. But I would highly recommend that before you get your PhD that you learn something about how the scientific method works, because if you don't, I'm not sure what good your degree is going to be to anyone, much less yourself.

It is "computer science" for a reason. These devices aren't magic, they are science in action, AKA technology. My field of science has produced more results than any other in the field.

So do you have a point?

I didn't say that they were magic. I've worked on desktop computers myself since 1994, but took some programming in the 1970s and 1980s. The first computer I worked on was a DEC 10, then an IBM 360. So I know my way around them, but don't claim to be an IT expert by any stretch. So I wouldn't pretend to tell you your business. However, I am a published geologist who also studied anthropology for four years before I changed majors. So when I tell you that I am an expert on the subject of evolution, you can understand that I am telling the truth. So don't try to tell me my business. But I guess my point is that the sciences that conduct research in evolution use the exact same scientific method that every other science does, including computer science. So it might be useful to have a working knowledge of the method before you get that PhD.

I did peyote in the desert alone on the summer solstice and during the beautiful moment that transitions between the late eve and early morn..dawn..I glimpsed eternity, I saw the perfection of all creation and touched the face of god ..

That explains a lot more about you than you apparently realize.

or is it more than you apparently realize.

 

[Hollie]

You know what? The only reason I haven't ignored you yet, is because your stupidity makes me laugh out loud. It really does. Keep up the good work.

I can understand you're angry and frustrated. The question regarding evidence for evolution is demonstrated overwhelmingly by the science community. You deny it because biological history directly contradicts your YEC'ist fantasies and literal interpretation of the various bibles. It's unfortunate for you because you are the stereotype of the raving, hair-on-fire, out of control thumper, the Taliban who is marginalized by a society that keeps you on a choke collar.

And its not like there is only one bit of evidence for evolution. Its a collection of a lot of reasons why we know evolution is real. You see how that one fool wanted to argue about I can't even remember what it was now but he just threw it at me like it was suppose to prove something. Something about a micro organism being resistant to antibiotics? And that means what? So you can'never give them enough evidence because they will argue anything science says. One at a time. Even if science has 1000 reasons or a million.

You can also throw shit in the air a thousand times. None of it will ascend to the heavans, to become fact. it will always obey gravity and hit you in the face.

Such lovely folks you angry, self-hating fundies.

You know what? The only reason I haven't ignored you yet, is because your stupidity makes me laugh out loud. It really does. Keep up the good work.

I can understand you're angry and frustrated. The question regarding evidence for evolution is demonstrated overwhelmingly by the science community. You deny it because biological history directly contradicts your YEC'ist fantasies and literal interpretation of the various bibles. It's unfortunate for you because you are the stereotype of the raving, hair-on-fire, out of control thumper, the Taliban who is marginalized by a society that keeps you on a choke collar.

And its not like there is only one bit of evidence for evolution. Its a collection of a lot of reasons why we know evolution is real. You see how that one fool wanted to argue about I can't even remember what it was now but he just threw it at me like it was suppose to prove something. Something about a micro organism being resistant to antibiotics? And that means what? So you can'never give them enough evidence because they will argue anything science says. One at a time. Even if science has 1000 reasons or a million.

You can also throw shit in the air a thousand times. None of it will ascend to the heavans, to become fact. it will always obey gravity and hit you in the face.

Such lovely folks you angry, self-hating fundies.

No offence but what soulless beast you can be

No offense, but shouldn't you be somewhere else looking for new conspiracy theories?

 

[Mr.Right]

I have confused nothing. the Big Bang, Abiogenesis and evolution are all part of the same thing. A naturalistic origin of life. I may not be an expert on evolution, but I will debate you on it anytime you like. you say I don't understand it. I assure you, that I do. so, you want to debate it? bring it on. I'll even let you choose the topic.

Well you can't debate it if you don't know shit about it and it's obvious that you don't know shit about it.

So, you're backing down? You're refusing to debate me? You do realize how that makes you look, don't you? You've just confirmed my suspician. You're a blowhard and a coward. Otherwise, you'd jump at the opportunity to make look like a fool.

I can't debate someone who has no knowledge of the subject, if you want to label it backing down just to save your ignorant pride, do whatever you want.

I'll debate anyone about anything. if you want to claim that your opponent is ignorant just to save your ignorant pride, well, you could do whatever you want.the fact is that you are a craven coward.

Of course YOU will debate anyone about anything. You don't know anything so it's no real effort for you. I am not afraid, that is just a lie you tell yourself. I just won't bother arguing with someone who knows nothing about the subject. It's a waste of my time. I would spend all my time educating you instead of debating. That's boring and tedious and you won't listen anyway.

You can remain stupid, I don't care. Good bye.

You can disguise your cowardice any way you like. You're not fooling anyone. I believe that your refusal to debate me is that you know you would lose. I believe most would agree with me. I'm calling you out, coward! Debate me, or prove to everyone here that you're a liberal coward.

 

[sealybobo]

No but I did notice however that no definitive evidence was offered and that people like dawkins and stephen hawking went as far as to suggest alien intervention

They said why rule out aliens if your gonna believe it must have been a god. Not that they believe in aliens.

You know what? The only reason I haven't ignored you yet, is because your stupidity makes me laugh out loud. It really does. Keep up the good work.

I can understand you're angry and frustrated. The question regarding evidence for evolution is demonstrated overwhelmingly by the science community. You deny it because biological history directly contradicts your YEC'ist fantasies and literal interpretation of the various bibles. It's unfortunate for you because you are the stereotype of the raving, hair-on-fire, out of control thumper, the Taliban who is marginalized by a society that keeps you on a choke collar.

And its not like there is only one bit of evidence for evolution. Its a collection of a lot of reasons why we know evolution is real. You see how that one fool wanted to argue about I can't even remember what it was now but he just threw it at me like it was suppose to prove something. Something about a micro organism being resistant to antibiotics? And that means what? So you can'never give them enough evidence because they will argue anything science says. One at a time. Even if science has 1000 reasons or a million.

They don't even do that. Their only response, like a bunch of lemmings, is "that's not evidence". They don't even argue the evidence, they simply declare it invalid. And that is because they know if they did try to make a reasonable argument, they would show everybody that they really don't know what they are talking about. And we can't have that, can we? It's pathetic, really.

I feel sorry for the ones who believe for all the right reasons. I dont want to burst their bubble but when 90 of theism is bullshit I can't worry about stupid peoples feelings. It may give a lot of good people good feelings but that doesnt make it good for us or true.

 

[eots]

I can understand you're angry and frustrated. The question regarding evidence for evolution is demonstrated overwhelmingly by the science community. You deny it because biological history directly contradicts your YEC'ist fantasies and literal interpretation of the various bibles. It's unfortunate for you because you are the stereotype of the raving, hair-on-fire, out of control thumper, the Taliban who is marginalized by a society that keeps you on a choke collar.

And its not like there is only one bit of evidence for evolution. Its a collection of a lot of reasons why we know evolution is real. You see how that one fool wanted to argue about I can't even remember what it was now but he just threw it at me like it was suppose to prove something. Something about a micro organism being resistant to antibiotics? And that means what? So you can'never give them enough evidence because they will argue anything science says. One at a time. Even if science has 1000 reasons or a million.

You can also throw shit in the air a thousand times. None of it will ascend to the heavans, to become fact. it will always obey gravity and hit you in the face.

Such lovely folks you angry, self-hating fundies.

I can understand you're angry and frustrated. The question regarding evidence for evolution is demonstrated overwhelmingly by the science community. You deny it because biological history directly contradicts your YEC'ist fantasies and literal interpretation of the various bibles. It's unfortunate for you because you are the stereotype of the raving, hair-on-fire, out of control thumper, the Taliban who is marginalized by a society that keeps you on a choke collar.

And its not like there is only one bit of evidence for evolution. Its a collection of a lot of reasons why we know evolution is real. You see how that one fool wanted to argue about I can't even remember what it was now but he just threw it at me like it was suppose to prove something. Something about a micro organism being resistant to antibiotics? And that means what? So you can'never give them enough evidence because they will argue anything science says. One at a time. Even if science has 1000 reasons or a million.

You can also throw shit in the air a thousand times. None of it will ascend to the heavans, to become fact. it will always obey gravity and hit you in the face.

Such lovely folks you angry, self-hating fundies.

No offence but what soulless beast you can be

No offense, but shouldn't you be somewhere else looking for new conspiracy theories?

apply scientific method to the collapses on 9/11
go ahead I dare you...


Internationally acclaimed for her ground-breaking scientific work, Dr. Margulis is an elected member of The World Academy of Art and Science, an organization of 500 of the world’s leading thinkers, chosen for eminence in art, the natural and social sciences, and the humanities. And in 2006, she was selected as one of “The 20th Century's 100 Most Important Inspirational Leaders” by the editors ofResurgence magazine.the prominent scientists, Dr. Margulis is Distinguished University Professor in the Department of Geosciences, University of Massachusetts - Amherst. She was elected to the National Academy of Sciences in 1983 and served as Chairman of the Academy’s Space Science Board Committee on Planetary Biology and Chemical Evolution. In 1999, President Bill Clinton presented Dr. Margulis with the National Medal of Science, America's highest honor for scientific achievement, "for her outstanding contributions to understanding of the development, structure, and evolution of living things, for inspiring new research in the biological, climatological, geological and planetary sciences, and for her extraordinary abilities as a teacher and communicator of science to the public."
In her statement on PatriotsQuestion911.com, Dr. Margulis referred to 9/11 as “this new false-flag operation, which has been used to justify the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq as well as unprecedented assaults on research, education, and civil liberties”

 

[S.J.]

I don't have to prove you wrong, you have to prove yourself right, and on that you fail miserably.

Your denial of the many sciences that contribute to the facts of evolution entitles you to wear the badge of religious extremist.

Revel in your ignorance. Your YEC'ist beliefs will get you a reduced rate for joining the Flat Earth Society.

My position has nothing to do with religion,

Liar.

it has to do with you not being able to prove the claim you think you have the right to force down everyone else's throat. And your "flat earth" comment doesn't help with your credibility. It only speaks to your lack of substance.

You sound like a wee little 1st grader who refuses to do his times table. Oh dear.

And that comment helps to prove your theory, how?

Defending your abysmal ignorance with extremist religious dogma makes you quite the mind-numbed zealot.

Your issue is that your extremist beliefs cause you to reject a reality based worldview. You're a candidate for the Kool-Aid line.

Please quote where I brought religion into it. You are the only one who has done that.

 

[S.J.]

Thanks for confirming what I said about the lack of substance in your argument.

I had the impression you were a substantial fossil.

Confirming again, I see.