Zone1 Where does it say in the Bible only adults can be baptized?

but exactly what Jesus intended when he came here to "change the way people think and to end the vicious cycle of hatred and discord
Looks like you need to take a dip into the baptismal waters. Apparently the first time didn't take.

Jesus came to convey all of Gods commands, the only right way to understand the Law that fulfills the promise of life for everyone who listens to his teaching, understands, and acts on it.

“Come, all you who are thirsty, come to the waters; and you without money, come, buy, and eat! Come, buy wine and milk without money and without cost! Why spend money on that which is not bread, and your labor on that which does not satisfy? Listen carefully to Me, and eat what is good, and your soul will delight in the richest of foods"


Hence "eat my flesh". Don't be stupid. The least you can do is try.

Misleading others to set aside the Law and seek spiritual life from a matzo amounts to murder.

MURDERER
 
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So shall my Word be that issues forth from my mouth; bread for those who eat

Entiendes? Take this bread and eat it. This is my flesh. The Word became flesh. Ring a bell?

No? Thats a shame!

Do the math!
Matthew 13:

He proposed still another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed that a man took and sowed in his field. 32 It is the smallest of all the seeds, but when it has grown it is the greatest of plants and becomes a tree large enough for the birds to come and make nests in its branches.”[k]

The mustard seed would be your faith - if you allow it. It can be the smallest amount of faith there is - but if you sow it - and you water it by your understanding of God's words - it can become the largest of plants and eventually a tree where even the birds can make their nests on.


And he offered them yet another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like yeast that a woman took and mixed with three measures of flour until it was completely leavened.”

The yeast is the tiny amount of faith you need because you will add three huge measures of flour to it (Your vast knowledge of scripture) and it will become completely leavened.


Take a small leap of faith so that you can begin to understand - not what is hidden - but what has always been before you - but can only be seen after the mustard seed becomes a tree and the bread is fully leavened.
 
The con was a lie, they would not die but become like God. They did die and weren't like God.

Just like you will never be a god of your own planet or universe, no matter how much you lie.

Now you may be the god of your own fantasy but thats only for as long as you can maintain a delusion which is at best for as long as you live. What then? Bad time to find out you were wrong.



God said, "They have become like "US" knowing good and evil. So, part of being "God" is knowing good and evil without being evil. So, it is you that keeps lying. It's in print right in Genesis.
 
Genesis 2:

9 The Lord God made all sorts of beautiful and nourishing trees sprout out of the earth, among which was the tree of life[e] in the middle of the garden and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
BOTH THE TREE OF LIFE AND THE TREE OF KNOWLEDGE ARE IN THE GARDEN


15 The Lord God took the man and placed him in the Garden of Eden so that he might work it and care for it. 16 The Lord God told the man, “You can eat of any of the trees in the garden, 17 but you must never eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. If you were to eat from it, you would surely die.”

The Lord God specifically states YOU CAN EAT OF ANY OF THE TREES IN THE GARDEN but you must never eat from the tree of knowledge.

ONLY THE TREE OF KNOWLEDGE WAS FORBIDDEN

What does this mean? That prior to the "fall" mankind was awarded access to "The Tree of Life" - as long as they remained in harmony with God's plan and creation.



Genesis3:

a] 1 The serpent[b] was the most clever of all the wild animals that the Lord God had made. It said to the woman, “Is it true that God told you not to eat of any of the trees in the garden?”

2 The woman answered the serpent, “We may eat of the fruit of the trees in the garden, 3 but as for the fruit of the tree in the midst of the garden, God said that we must not eat it, nor even touch it, lest we die.”

4 But the serpent said to the woman, “Certainly you shall not die! 5 God knows that when you eat from it, your eyes will be opened, and you will become like God, knowing that which is good and that which is evil.”

6 The woman saw that the tree was good for food and pleasing to look at and desirable for imparting wisdom. She took some fruit and ate it. Then she gave some to her husband who was with her, and he also ate it. 7 Their eyes were opened and they realized that they were naked. They took fig leaves and sewed them together, making themselves a covering.



22 The Lord God said, “Behold, man has become like one of us, for he has knowledge of that which is good and that which is evil. Now, we must prevent him from reaching out and taking the fruit of the tree of life lest he eat it and live forever.”



Did The Lord God lie? No.

When he stated "they would surely die" he was referring to a "Spiritual death" - "falling out of spiritual communion with God" When he stated he "has become like one of us" he wasn't stating that as a compliment - he was stating that it was a curse for mankind to have "knowledge of what is good and evil" because it would now make them "self aware" and subjected to "sin" It's quite simple - If "there is no good - there is no evil" - in your world - as you understand it - then anything you do would not be subjected to "sin". (Or being accused/judged of "sinning")

"Now, we must prevent him from reaching out and taking the fruit of the tree of life lest he eat it and live forever." - In my opinion, The Lord God was stating that living "forever" in a "fallen state of grace" is not an ideal path to salvation. Mankind would now need to work both physically and spiritually in order to once again have access to the Tree of Life (Redemption). And The Lord God made it clear that it would not be easy - physically mankind would need to labor and endure pain and spiritually they would need to "make it past the flaming sword that guards the tree of life."

Did the serpent lie? From a "physical" perspective - not quite - he told them "they wouldn't die (physically) and that it would open up their eyes" - And that happened. What he did not tell them would be the consequences of breaking the main rule God had put in place for them.

In my humble opinion, "The Lord works in mysterious ways." The same way Adam and Eve did not know "the reason" they could not eat the fruit could be the same way we may not be fully aware of God's intentions for us. We can read passages from the Bible and easily misconstrue their meaning. Remember - the serpent did not lie - and yet was able to persuade mankind to fall into temptation. So if "the serpent" gets in your ear and says, "look at all the things God says and does to punish mankind" - well, he may not be lying - but you can bet he's not telling you the consequences - good or bad.

If you ever have a doubt - think about the air you breathe - you can't live more than a minute without it. Think about the water you drink - you can't live more than 3 days without it. Think about the perfect ecosystem in which you live that sustains your life - you couldn't live but a few seconds without the sun's heat.


Isaiah 55:

For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
nor are your ways my ways, says the Lord.
9 As the heavens are higher than the earth,
so are my ways higher than your ways
and my thoughts above your thoughts.

For just as the rain and the snow
come down from the heavens
and do not return there
until they have watered the earth,
making it fertile and fruitful,
giving seed for the one who sows
and bread for those who eat,
11 so shall my word be
that issues forth from my mouth.
It will not return to me unfulfilled,
but it will accomplish my purpose
and achieve what I sent it forth to do.
You are entitled to the opinions you offer. Much of it has merit. Some is putting new words into the scriptures. For example, God said don't eat or you will die. There is no indication of a spiritual death only. They were in a state of not being subject to physical death. What they did not have is anything to reference them to what physical death is that we know of based on the Bible's account. With that said, in the Garden, they were able to be in contact with the Godhead. Once banished from the Garden, they were no longer able to have the same kind of contact and thus were in a spiritual dearth. Angels were sent along with the Holy Ghost as well. Still happens today.

So, simply put, Satan (the serpent) beguiled Eve and she did eat. She then let Adam know that if he doesn't eat, he would be alone that point on. And, there would be no way for him to multiply and replenish the earth. So, with what is written in the Bible, Eve was deceived by learning some truth and some false stuff. They would NOT die physically or spiritually was a lie. But, being like God, knowing good and evil, that was the truth. Deceit.
 
Nonsense. In 325 CE Rome assimilated and perverted Christianity with Mithraism, the secret MYSTERY RELIGION of the roman government and military, upon which Catholicism is based, and buried the teachings of Jesus under a mountain of blasphemy upon which your Church is built.
Incorrect.

I would expect better of you. I've seen some of your posts dwelling in these nonsensical conspiracy theories - and was hoping for this opportunity. Thank you.


Let's start with Mithra:

Mithra (Avestan: 𐬨𐬌𐬚𐬭𐬀 Miθra, Old Persian: 𐎷𐎰𐎼 Miθra) is an ancient Iranian deity of covenants, light, oaths, justice, the Sun,[1] contracts, and friendship.[2] In addition to being the divinity of contracts, Mithra is also a judicial figure, an all-seeing protector of Truth (Asha), and the guardian of cattle, the harvest, and the Waters.

Like most other divinities, Mithra is not mentioned by name in the Gathas, the oldest texts of Zoroastrianism and traditionally attributed to Zoroaster himself, or by name in the Yasna Haptanghaiti, a seven-verse section of the Yasna liturgy that is linguistically as old as the Gathas. As a member of the Iranian ahuric triad, along with Ahura Mazda and Ahura Berezaiti (Apam Napat), Mithra is an exalted figure. Together with Rashnu "Justice" and Sraosha "Obedience", Mithra is one of the three judges at the Chinvat Bridge, the "Bridge of Separation" that all souls must cross. Unlike Sraosha, however, Mithra is not a psychopomp, a guide of souls to the place of the dead. Should the Good Thoughts, Words, and Deeds outweigh the Bad, Sraosha alone conveys the Soul across the Bridge.

The "orginal" Mithra dates back as far as 1400 BC

Now fast forward 1400 years later and Mithras cults begin to emerge around Rome....

Mithras before the Roman Mysteries​

Mithras-Helios, with solar rays and in Iranian dress,[71] with Antiochus I of Commagene. (Mt. Nemrut, 1st century BCE)h-century relief of the investiture of the Sasanian king Ardashir II. Mithra stands on a Lotus Flower on the left holding a Barsom.[71]
According to the archaeologist Maarten Vermaseren, evidence from Commagene from the 1st century BCE demonstrates the "reverence paid to Mithras" but does not refer to "the mysteries".[ag] In the colossal statuary erected by King Antiochus I (69–34 BCE) at Mount Nemrut, Mithras is shown beardless, wearing a Phrygian cap[3][73] (or the similar headdress – a Persian tiara), in Iranian (Parthian) clothing,[71] and was originally seated on a throne alongside other deities and the king himself.[74] On the back of the thrones there is an inscription in Greek, which includes the compound name Apollo-Mithras-Helios in the genitive case (Ἀπόλλωνος Μίθρου Ἡλίου).[75] Vermaseren also reports about a Mithras cult in Fayum in the 3rd century BCE [39](p 467) R.D.

Barnett has argued that the royal seal of King Saussatar of the Mitanni from c. 1450 BCE depicts a tauroctonous Mithras.[ah]

Now fast forward 1400 years later and Mithras cults begin to emerge around Rome....

Beginnings of Roman Mithraism​

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The origins and spread of the Mysteries have been intensely debated among scholars and there are radically differing views on these issues.[76] According to Clauss, mysteries of Mithras were not practiced until the 1st century CE.[4] According to Ulansey, the earliest evidence for the Mithraic mysteries places their appearance in the middle of the 1st century BCE: The historian Plutarch says that in 67 BCE the pirates of Cilicia (a province on the southeastern coast of Asia Minor, that provided sea access to adjacent Commagene) were practicing "secret rites" of Mithras.[ai] According to C.M. Daniels,[78] whether any of this relates to the origins of the mysteries is unclear.[aj] The unique underground temples or mithraea appear suddenly in the archaeology in the last quarter of the 1st century CE.[79](p 118)

NO "MYSTERIES" of Mithras were practiced prior to the turn of the century in Rome - meaning that it was already in direct competition with Christianity. NO CATECHISM NO SACRAMENTS - UNTIL IT WAS ALREADY BEING PRACTICED BY CHRISTIANS ALL OVER ROME.​


Now if none of these things were practiced by the Persian version of Mithras Cults but all of a sudden began to be practiced AFTER CHRISTIANITY (Catholicism) WAS ALIVE AND WELL WITHIN ROME - WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU?



"The Mithraic Mysteries had no public ceremonies of its own. The festival of Natalis Invicti, held on 25 December, was a general festival of the Sun, and by no means specific to the Mysteries of Mithras."[4


Mithras-worship in the Roman Empire was characterized by images of the god slaughtering a bull. Other images of Mithras are found in the Roman temples, for instance Mithras banqueting with Sol, and depictions of the birth of Mithras from a rock. But the image of bull-slaying (tauroctony) is always in the central niche.[9](p 6) Textual sources for a reconstruction of the theology behind this iconography are very rare.[o] (See section Interpretations of the bull-slaying scene below.)

The practice of depicting the god slaying a bull seems to be specific to Roman Mithraism. According to David Ulansey, this is "perhaps the most important example" of evident difference between Iranian and Roman traditions: "... there is no evidence that the Iranian god Mithra ever had anything to do with killing a bull."[9](p 


Mithras killing the bull likely demonstrates the advent of a new era - by "sacrificing" the "bull" of the "Old era" (Abolishing the Old way) - and by that sacrifice - the bull's life force gives life to the new age. (That's my understanding of it).

Jesus Christ DID NOT TEACH THIS.

.“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill them. 18 Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not a single letter,[b] not even a tiny portion of a letter, will disappear from the Law until all things have been accomplished.

The assertion that Christianity borrowed from some pre-Christian Persian religion via the Roman cult of Mithras does not stand up to historical scrutiny. Far from being a pre-Christian Persian cult, it appears that Mithraism actually appeared on the scene later than Christianity, and in Europe, not Persia. There is no real historical link between Roman Mithraism and the Persian worship of Miça; in fact, it is not unreasonable to think that to the degree Mithraism did look like Christianity (and there is no good evidence that it did), it may have in fact borrowed from the Church rather than the other way around, since the Church predated Mithraism, at least according to epigraphic evidence. The view put forth by Cumont and others that Christianity is a syncretic blend of Mithraism and other mystery religions is historically untenable. The condemnation of the view becomes stronger when we realize that many of these alleged “similarities” upon which the theory rests either do not exist or are the results of a profound misunderstanding of religion in the Roman Empire. Since the 1970’s Cumont’s views have come under increasing scrutiny, to the point that reputable scholars now say that any pre-Christian Persian connection can safely be, in the words of secular historian Ramsay MacMullen, “denied entirely”.




As far as the book of Revelation is concerned - That is likely in reference to the other person you like to quote in your conspiracy theories - Simon Magus. Simon Magus and his cult were adopted by the Emperor Nero - in direct contrast to Christianity. Nero despised Christians and Christians despised Nero. That said, Simon Magus became a favorite of Nero's - astonishing people with "signs in the sky" and so forth.



To conclude - I have respect for all religions - including the many religions of antiquity. They are a huge part of our civilization and history and should always be respected, in my humble opinion.

What we should realize is that Jesus Christ is indeed the Word. It is what separates his teachings from many others - His Words give life, meaning and light to billions and billions of people. They do not abolish but they bring new life and meaning to the teachings of the Prophets and the Books of the Law. No need to have "secret rituals". No need to "sacrifice an animal". His teachings teach that through faith in God all things are possible. It is through faith in God that we are healed. It is through faith and good works that God's Mercy manifests itself throughout the world.

And it is through faith, good works and God's Mercy that we should understand that God - through his prophets and through his son - is a God of Justice, Mercy, Love - he wants us to live that way. "Love God with all you heart, all your soul, all your mind and strength" "Love Your Neighbor As Yourself". God never wants us to be weak or "weak minded" but strong in what we should be doing as human beings living within and among his creation.
 
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Take a small leap of faith so that you can begin to understand - not what is hidden - but what has always been before you -
You don't know what you are talking about. Am I telling you something that you don't already know? Take a small leap of faith yourself and admit that you have been horribly mislead by devils.

The kingdom of heaven is like hidden treasure lying buried in a field. The man who found it (Jesus) buried it again"

"I will give you treasures from dark vaults hoarded in secret places that you may know that I am the Lord, the God of Israel who summons you by name."

"To him who is victorious I will give some of the hidden manna; I will also give him a white stone, and on the stone will be written a new name, known to none but he who receives it."


but can only be seen after the mustard seed becomes a tree and the bread is fully leavened.
How is it that you have failed to understand that I was not speaking about bread, but beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees?” Then they understood that He did not tell them to beware of the leaven of bread, but of the teaching of the Pharisees and Sadducees.


"Time was when many were aghast at you, my people, and so now many nations recoil at sight of him, and kings curl their lips in disgust; for they see what they had never been told and things unheard before fill their thoughts."


I have openly revealed that which was hidden since the foundation of the world, that which no other man in heaven on the earth or under the earth could ever do even if they lived forever.

How is it that you don't know the right course to take?
 
So, simply put, Satan (the serpent) beguiled Eve and she did eat. She then let Adam know that if he doesn't eat, he would be alone that point on. And, there would be no way for him to multiply and replenish the earth.
You have eaten the vile and loathsome flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate.This is not kosher! Consequently your mind has been defiled and contaminated to the point of uselessness.

When the children of Adam and Eve wanted to find a mate, THEY WENT TO A CITY.

What does that tell you? Think! You can do it! (maybe not) All that you have to do is to be honest.

To be fruitful and multiply has absolutely nothing whatever to do with procreation, having children

You have been diverted by iniquitous superstitious archaic lore. If you don't care, I certainly don't.
 
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When the children of Adam and Eve wanted to find a mate, THEY WENT TO A CITY.

What does that tell you? Think! You can do it!

To be fruitful and multiply has absolutely nothing whatever to do with procreation, having children

You have been diverted by iniquitous archaic superstitious lore. If you don't care I certainly don't.
God made more than Adam and Eve. Adam and Eve were perfect and so lived in the garden others lived in the world.
 
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill them. 18 Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not a single letter,[b] not even a tiny portion of a letter, will disappear from the Law until all things have been accomplished.

Therefore anyone who sets aside even the least of these commands, and teaches others to do the same, will be called LEAST in the kingdom of heaven.

To understand what Jesus meant by saying LEAST in the kingdom of Heaven, see Genesis 3:14
 
God made more than Adam and Eve. Adam and Eve were perfect
Right. So perfect they blindly swallowed the lies of a talking serpent. Just like those who support trump. You should be ashamed of yourself. Just like when Adam and Eves eyes were opened.

Be opened

You are prancing around naked. Maybe you can stitch animal skins together to hide your shame?

May I offer you a fig leaf? Damn.
 
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Right. So perfect they blindly swallowed the lies of a talking serpent. Just like those who support trump. You should be ashamed of yourself. Just like when Adam and Eves eyes were opened.

Be opened

You are prancing around naked. Maybe you can stitch animal skins together to hide your shame?

May I offer you a fig leaf? Damn.
you will regret your disbelief soon enough.
 
Let's start with Mithra:

* Mithra was born on December 25th. Called "Birthday of the Unconquered Sun", it was incorporated into the church in the 4th century AD as the birthday of Christ. Although Jesus was born in October, christians today celebrate Mithra' birthday, believing it was Jesus' birthday.

* Mithra' birth was witnessed by shepherds and by Magi (wise men) who brought gifts to his sacred birth-cave of the Rock

* He was considered a great travelling teacher and master.

* He had 12 companions or disciples, which in Mithraism were represented by the 12 astrological signs.

* He performed miracles.

* He was buried in a tomb.

* After three days he rose again, but with no witnesses to the event

* His triumph over death and ascension to heaven were celebrated at the Mithran's most important festival, Easter, held at the spring equinox when the sun rises toward its apogee

* Mithra was called "the Good Shepherd."

* He was considered "the Way, the Truth and the Light, the Redeemer, the Savior, the Messiah."

* In the cult's rituals, Mithra was identified with both the Lion and the Lamb.

* His sacred day was Sunday, and was called "the Lord's Day" hundreds of years before the appearance of Christ.

* Mithraism had a Eucharist or "Lord's Supper" in which bread was eaten as a symbol of Mithra' body, and wine was drunk as a symbol of the blood shed when Mithra overpowered and killed the bull

* Mithra performed many miracles, including raising the dead, healing the sick, making the blind see and the lame walk, casting out devils.

* Mithra was said to carry keys to the kingdom of heaven.

* Mithra was called the god of light and truth, the god of mediation between god and man. He was to his worshippers The creator of life; The Mediator between man and the higher gods; The God of light; The All-seeing one; The Guardian of oaths (covenants); The Protector of the righteous in this world and also in the next.

* A trinity godhead comprised of Mithra (divine god of truth), Rashnu (divine god of justice, judgement and righteousness), Vohu Manah (divine spirit of enlightenment). These three persons were separate yet they were one.

Before returning to heaven, Mithra was said to have celebrated a Last Supper with followers, who represented the twelve signs of the zodiac. In memory of this, his worshippers partook of a sacramental meal of bread marked with the Mithran cross of light. (see below) This was one of the seven Mithraic sacraments, believed to be the models for the Christians' seven sacraments, which follow them identically. It was called mizd, latin missa, in other words, English mass. Mithra' image was buried in a rock tomb, the same sacred cave that represented his mother's womb. He was withdrawn from it and said to live again.

Mithraism was an ascetic anti female religion whose priesthood consisted of celibate men only.
 
You don't know what you are talking about. Am I telling you something that you don't already know? Take a small leap of faith yourself and admit that you have been horribly mislead by devils.

The kingdom of heaven is like hidden treasure lying buried in a field. The man who found it (Jesus) buried it again"

"I will give you treasures from dark vaults hoarded in secret places that you may know that I am the Lord, the God of Israel who summons you by name."

"To him who is victorious I will give some of the hidden manna; I will also give him a white stone, and on the stone will be written a new name, known to none but he who receives it."



How is it that you have failed to understand that I was not speaking about bread, but beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees?” Then they understood that He did not tell them to beware of the leaven of bread, but of the teaching of the Pharisees and Sadducees.


"Time was when many were aghast at you, my people, and so now many nations recoil at sight of him, and kings curl their lips in disgust; for they see what they had never been told and things unheard before fill their thoughts."


I have openly revealed that which was hidden since the foundation of the world, that which no other man in heaven on the earth or under the earth could ever do even if they lived forever.

How is it that you don't know the right course to take?

You are creating a spirit of discord - the very definition of the Adversary itself - where no spirit of discord should ever be created.

Take note when I firmly state that the Spirit of Truth is within me. It does not judge. It does not empathize. It does not cry or argue. It simply states the Truth in all things - From the beginning of Creation until now..

The hidden treasure "The Kingdom of God" revealed by Jesus is up to each person of faith to find and "uncover" - Children may find it immediately - while for stubborn adults it may take years - possibly lifetimes.

Luke 18:

People were bringing even infants to Jesus so that he might touch them. When the disciples observed this, they rebuked them. 16 However, Jesus called the children to him and said, “Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them. For it is to such as these that the kingdom of God belongs. 17 Amen, I say to you, whoever does not receive the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it.”


"The hidden Manna" is Spiritual Enlightenment - they will receive the Spirit of Truth and be given spiritual treasures "that have been hidden" from them.


I was not speaking about bread, either.

Open your eyes - your heart - your soul and your mind so that you can see and understand what is being revealed to you.

Although you have very little faith - God is well aware - because of this - even an atom of faith from you (A few pinches of yeast) will generate a massive Spirit - potentially reaching the heavens themselves - because you will add 3 large measures of flour to it (YOUR VAST KNOWLEDGE OF SCRIPTURE). And at that very moment, You Shall Be Healed.


Luke 15:


6 Then, when he returns home, he calls together his friends and neighbors and says to them, ‘Rejoice with me, because I have found my sheep that was lost.’ 7 In the same way, I tell you, there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous people who have no need of repentance.
 
I stand by what I said

You are wrong and you likely know it. But you don't care as long as you can express hatred for the Original Church Christ founded.. wonder how that will work out for you on Judgment Day?
You're talking about the Coptic and Orthodox Churches, I assume.
There is no salvation outside the Church CHRIST founded. There is only ONE of those, btw.. not 30,000+
Darn right there's not. There is only ONE Church, the full body of all those who call on His name and have faith in Him. There are some groups that do things in comfortable ways that are meaningful in their culture, but there is only one church. There are buildings where believers meet that have different names on the doors, but there is only one Church, and you do not have any authority to place anyone outside it.
 
The hidden Manna" is Spiritual Enlightenment -
No, hidden manna represents the deeper meaning of the figurative words and hidden subjects of the law. No one who sets aside the law of God and seeks spiritual life from a lifeless matzo made by human hands is enlightened. In fact they are the exact opposite of enlightened, accursed.

Thats is, if scripture is true.

The more you proceed towards eternal life in your unrestrained imagination by doing the exact thing that scripture teaches results in death, the further you recede from eternal life in actuality.

Thats the way the cookie crumbles.
 
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You are creating a spirit of discord - the very definition of the Adversary itself - where no spirit of discord should ever be created.

According to the creation story God put lights in the sky to divide day from night. Even Jesus said that he did not come to bring peace but division creating discord in families, to divide light from dark, life from death, good from evil, true from false, right from wrong, the sheep from the goats.

Are you claiming that Jesus was the Adversary? Or me? Remember the only unforgivable sin?

Have you already crossed that line?

I do know that you were only trying to help me see the light in defying the commands of God and desecrating the teachings of Jesus, (What a guy!) but God is God and THE LAW IS THE LAW.

You do have my condolences.
 
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you will regret your disbelief soon enough.
Sure.

I'll regret it about as much as I regret not 'believing' that the story of the three pigs is a historical document in a land where people have built churches and made statues to honor, pray to, and seek guidance from the wise pig (derp), legislated laws and built prisons to punish unbelievers.

Whatever you hope happens to unbelievers for unbelief will happen to you for believing in bullshit

Didn't you ever read the story of Moses, the Pharaohs obstinate stupidity, and the last plague?

Stunad.
 
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* Mithra was born on December 25th. Called "Birthday of the Unconquered Sun", it was incorporated into the church in the 4th century AD as the birthday of Christ. Although Jesus was born in October, christians today celebrate Mithra' birthday, believing it was Jesus' birthday.

* Mithra' birth was witnessed by shepherds and by Magi (wise men) who brought gifts to his sacred birth-cave of the Rock

* He was considered a great travelling teacher and master.

* He had 12 companions or disciples, which in Mithraism were represented by the 12 astrological signs.

* He performed miracles.

* He was buried in a tomb.

* After three days he rose again, but with no witnesses to the event

* His triumph over death and ascension to heaven were celebrated at the Mithran's most important festival, Easter, held at the spring equinox when the sun rises toward its apogee

* Mithra was called "the Good Shepherd."

* He was considered "the Way, the Truth and the Light, the Redeemer, the Savior, the Messiah."

* In the cult's rituals, Mithra was identified with both the Lion and the Lamb.

* His sacred day was Sunday, and was called "the Lord's Day" hundreds of years before the appearance of Christ.

* Mithraism had a Eucharist or "Lord's Supper" in which bread was eaten as a symbol of Mithra' body, and wine was drunk as a symbol of the blood shed when Mithra overpowered and killed the bull

* Mithra performed many miracles, including raising the dead, healing the sick, making the blind see and the lame walk, casting out devils.

* Mithra was said to carry keys to the kingdom of heaven.

* Mithra was called the god of light and truth, the god of mediation between god and man. He was to his worshippers The creator of life; The Mediator between man and the higher gods; The God of light; The All-seeing one; The Guardian of oaths (covenants); The Protector of the righteous in this world and also in the next.

* A trinity godhead comprised of Mithra (divine god of truth), Rashnu (divine god of justice, judgement and righteousness), Vohu Manah (divine spirit of enlightenment). These three persons were separate yet they were one.

Before returning to heaven, Mithra was said to have celebrated a Last Supper with followers, who represented the twelve signs of the zodiac. In memory of this, his worshippers partook of a sacramental meal of bread marked with the Mithran cross of light. (see below) This was one of the seven Mithraic sacraments, believed to be the models for the Christians' seven sacraments, which follow them identically. It was called mizd, latin missa, in other words, English mass. Mithra' image was buried in a rock tomb, the same sacred cave that represented his mother's womb. He was withdrawn from it and said to live again.

Mithraism was an ascetic anti female religion whose priesthood consisted of celibate men only.


* Yawn *

* Mithra was born on December 25th. Called "Birthday of the Unconquered Sun", it was incorporated into the church in the 4th century AD as the birthday of Christ. Although Jesus was born in October, christians today celebrate Mithra' birthday, believing it was Jesus' birthday.

December 25th was celebrated as the day of the primary God of Rome - at the time - Sol Invictus - it was celebrated on December 25th for centuries prior to the arrival of Mithra.

What you naysayers - who preach nonsense - fail understand is the December 25th WAS GIVEN TO JESUS CHRIST AS A TRIBUTE. IT WAS THE SINGLE BIGGEST HONOR THE EMPIRE COULD HAVE GIVEN TO CHRISTIANTY. IT STATED THAT "JESUS IS THE CHRIST" ABOVE ALL OTHERS - For Christians it was THE BIRTH OF CHRISTIANITY WITHIN THE ROMAN EMPIRE - THE KNOWN WORLD AT THE TIME - IT WAS AN ABSOLUTE VICTORY - BAR NONE. FOR PAGANS - Jesus Christ represented THE "NEW" Sol Invictus (Unconquered Sun)

* Mithra' birth was witnessed by shepherds and by Magi (wise men) who brought gifts to his sacred birth-cave of the Rock - As was Abel a Shepard and his sacrifice preferred by God - IN GENESIS.

* He was considered a great travelling teacher and master. - There were HUNDREDS of "traveling teachers and masters" at the time.

* He had 12 companions or disciples, which in Mithraism were represented by the 12 astrological signs. 12 is THE MOST COMMON NUMBER when discussing followers or deities. There were 12 "gods" in the Roman Forum, Greek Forum, Babylonian Forum, Canaanite Forum and so forth.

* He performed miracles. So did The Apostles - Simon Magus - The Roman gods, The Greek gods, Canaanite God's and many others.

* He was buried in a tomb. - So was every single person of significance for the past 10,000 YEARS.

* After three days he rose again, but with no witnesses to the event. WRONG. Cannot be verified from any source other than fringe conspiracy theory sources. Try again.

* His triumph over death and ascension to heaven were celebrated at the Mithran's most important festival, Easter, held at the spring equinox when the sun rises toward its apogee - The basis of almost EVERY RELIGION FROM THE DAWN OF MANKIND SPEAKS OF "TRIUMPH OVER DEATH"

* Mithra was called "the Good Shepherd." - So was Abel - some of the Prophets and many other leaders who "tended for their people".

* He was considered "the Way, the Truth and the Light, the Redeemer, the Savior, the Messiah." NEVER IN THAT SPECIFIC ORDER. He was considered "The light" and variations to that did not emerge until WELL INTO THE 3rd Century AD in Rome - meaning IT WAS LIKELY TAKEN FROM CHRISTIANITY.

* In the cult's rituals, Mithra was identified with both the Lion and the Lamb. - Not until the 2nd or 3rd Century AD - likely taken from Christianity.

* His sacred day was Sunday, and was called "the Lord's Day" hundreds of years before the appearance of Christ. Jesus was always know as being identified with the "Sun" - He was LORD over the Sabbath - meaning Saturday - "The End" Jesus was BOTH THE BEGINNING AND END - Sunday can be both "The beginning and end" of the week for many.

* Mithraism had a Eucharist or "Lord's Supper" in which bread was eaten as a symbol of Mithra' body, and wine was drunk as a symbol of the blood shed when Mithra overpowered and killed the bull. WRONG. Only a few sources state anything close....and every source that states it STATES THAT THEY DRANK WATER - NOT WINE.

* Mithra performed many miracles, including raising the dead, healing the sick, making the blind see and the lame walk, casting out devils. - We already went over this. Next.

* Mithra was said to carry keys to the kingdom of heaven. Source? And having the keys "To Heaven" would have been a common saying among top deities and prophets.

* Mithra was called the god of light and truth, the god of mediation between god and man. He was to his worshippers The creator of life; The Mediator between man and the higher gods; The God of light; The All-seeing one; The Guardian of oaths (covenants); The Protector of the righteous in this world and also in the next.

We already went over this. Next.
* A trinity godhead comprised of Mithra (divine god of truth), Rashnu (divine god of justice, judgement and righteousness), Vohu Manah (divine spirit of enlightenment). These three persons were separate yet they were one.

Triune "Godheads" became common when monotheism replaced paganism. They date back to Ancient Egypt and even Hinu religions prior to 1000 BC.
Before returning to heaven, Mithra was said to have celebrated a Last Supper with followers, who represented the twelve signs of the zodiac. In memory of this, his worshippers partook of a sacramental meal of bread marked with the Mithran cross of light. (see below) This was one of the seven Mithraic sacraments, believed to be the models for the Christians' seven sacraments, which follow them identically. It was called mizd, latin missa, in other words, English mass. Mithra' image was buried in a rock tomb, the same sacred cave that represented his mother's womb. He was withdrawn from it and said to live again.

Mithraism was an ascetic anti female religion whose priesthood consisted of celibate men only.


Not sure how that relates to Christians other than "having a last meal".

Jesus and Christianity were PROPONENTS OF WOMEN - ESPECIALLY FOR THE TIME PERIOD.

Mary is venerated above all the saints.


Mary Magdalene is Redeemed and honored. And women have been honored and adored for the majority of the past 2000 years within the Catholic Church. CHRISTIANTY and The Catholic Church were considered one of the first major breaks from the traditional patriarch religions - and the Catholic Church - to this day - is by far the most progressive faith towards women out of the three major Abrahamic Religions.
 
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the Catholic Church to this day is by far the most progressive religions towards women out of the three major Abrahamic Religions.
Seriously? As Catholics strip away women rights. You could have just said that you are insane.

Oh, wait a minute! You just did. And have been with every single post. Thanks for sharing.

And some people don't believe in curses imagining they can defy the law of God with impunity because they celebrate the crucifixion of Jesus, and solemnly eat him in the form of a matzo.

Imagine that!
 
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You have eaten the vile and loathsome flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate.This is not kosher! Consequently your mind has been defiled and contaminated to the point of uselessness.

When the children of Adam and Eve wanted to find a mate, THEY WENT TO A CITY.

What does that tell you? Think! You can do it! (maybe not) All that you have to do is to be honest.

To be fruitful and multiply has absolutely nothing whatever to do with procreation, having children

You have been diverted by iniquitous superstitious archaic lore. If you don't care, I certainly don't.
Here’s a shocker for you. Cain and Abel weren’t the first children of Adam and Eve. The Bible doesn’t say this. In fact, in order for Cain to have gone to a city where he would feel welcomed, hundreds of years would have had to pass by. That’s the normal logical and biblical reasoning.
 

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