Zone1 Where do you personally Stand on abortion laws.

[Frankeneinstein]

is it a right or privilege to not be forced into slavery?

The one that's universal by definition of course...the one that does not make freedom a privilege.

 

[playtime]

The one that's universal by definition of course...the one that does not make freedom a privilege.

only a privilege.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

only a privilege.

merely a "cop out"!

 

[playtime]

merely a "cop out"!

not at all. according to you, it's a privilege, not a right to essentially choose not to be in that position. & by that - i mean stirrups.

i guess if one has the $$$ means $$$ to leave their state, then yaaaaaaaaaa........... it's a privledge.

 

[HeyNorm]

Here's a thought, if a guy doesn't want to be a father, or if a woman doesn't want to be a mother, here's a really technical solution - keep sperm out of the vagina!!!

Apparently, it scientifically works.

An IQ level above a box of Kellogs Cornflakes can grasp that basic sex education. Those that can't.............well.........they demand an abortion.

Only one can demand an abortion. Creates inequality in the law.

 

[initforme]

Tracking every woman's pregnancy is a bad approach.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

not at all. according to you, it's a privilege, not a right to essentially choose not to be in that position. & by that - i mean stirrups.

i guess if one has the $$$ means $$$ to leave their state, then yaaaaaaaaaa........... it's a privledge.

You need dancing lessons

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Tracking every woman's pregnancy is a bad approach.

Just the doctors who would illegally perform them. Strip their license and put them in prison if past 6 weeks

 

[surada]

A normal pregnancy IS a health issue. Poor nutrition by the mother will be bad for the baby. There was a time when the mother would die giving birth. Yes, the chances are low for a woman with good health, but that's not always the case.

They still die in Texas, Mississippi, Louisiana and Georgia.

 

[surada]

Just the doctors who would illegally perform them. Strip their license and put them in prison if past 6 weeks

A timeline of Trump's many, many positions on abortion

Since 1999, Trump has been on just about every side of the abortion issue. Here's a timeline of his many positions.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[DGS49]

For the record, the holding in Roe v Wade - which was overturned long before Dobbs - was that in the first "trimester" the woman had a right to get an abortion (not funded by government, of course), during the second trimester, the State could regulate or even prohibit abortions, and at the beginning of the third trimester, the fetus legally became a citizen and abortion was prohibited.

THAT policy, invented by a Supreme Court Justice, could probably get majority support in the U.S.

And as much as the Democrats claim to want to re-institute Roe v Wade, they are lying through their figurative teeth. They would not be satisfied with that policy. They want it much more open than that. Furthermore, a law that sought to reinstitute Roe v Wade would be unconstitutional. The Federal government has no power to regulate abortion. It ain't in the Constitution, and the Tenth Amendment still is. This is not ancient history folks; everyone reading this was alive and literate at the time of the Dobbs decision.

It is curious how the "incest" word gets tossed around here. What if the parents were first cousins? That's incest, but no reason to have a different standard from everyone else for abortion. What if it is an adult brother and sister? Same thing. What if it is an adult father and adult daughter who willingly and without duress decided to copulate. Why would they be any different than two strangers?

Now if you are talking about an adult parent and a minor child below the legal age of consent, that would be RAPE (statutory rape), and covered under the other exclusion.

Incest should not be part of the conversation; rape covers all of the extraordinary situations that should be the exceptions to an abortion prohibition. It doesn't make the fetus any less human, though.

 

[lg325]

You should add ban at conception with life of the mother exception.

 

[Captain Caveman]

I DO NOT want to take my car to the body shop to get a big dent on the car door pulled out and repainted. So I WILL NOT smack it with a pein ball hammer.

I DO NOT want a baby. So I will not get a woman pregnant/I won't get pregnant. So I WILL NOT have intercourse, scream and stamp my feet and demand an abortion, whilst screaming at the top of my voice MY BODY MY CHOICE YOU FUCKING BIGOT.

 

[initforme]

One thing will solve the whole problem. If every last woman in the nation avoids getting pregnant, it all goes away.

 

[playtime]

You need dancing lessons

you need critical thinking skills.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Only one can demand an abortion. Creates inequality in the law.

In abortion-land, Should men have the right to a financial abortion? If she wants the baby and he doesn’t, he can waive his rights to the child and not have to give child support?

 

[HeyNorm]

In abortion-land, Should men have the right to a financial abortion? If she wants the baby and he doesn’t, he can waive his rights to the child and not have to give child support?

Child support laws were in acted when women had no “choice”. That’s no longer the case.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

you need critical thinking skills.

..."step two three, step two three".

 

[ThisIsMe]

I know it's a lot of choices, but I want to see where people stand. I will allow two choices for those on the fence.

Some ground rules.

1. Non-viable fetuses can be removed in all cases
2. Ectopic Pregnancy treatment is allowed and is not an abortion
3. After 15 weeks if you can't figure out if you were raped or had incest, it's on you.


Think about what level you would vote for. Let's have at it.

My stance is, it’s none of my business and it’s not of the governments business either. Let the people of the states handle it.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Dobbs is Dumbfounded And Sedition Against Us 14th , 9th , 1st and 10th Amendments "

* Nothing Ambiguous About The Only Non Incidental Requirement For Instantiation Of Us Citizenship In Us Constitution *

For the record, the holding in Roe v Wade - which was overturned long before Dobbs - was that in the first "trimester" the woman had a right to get an abortion (not funded by government, of course), during the second trimester, the State could regulate or even prohibit abortions, and at the beginning of the third trimester, the fetus legally became a citizen and abortion was prohibited.

The roe v wade decision stated that , for second trimester , states could regulate abortion to make the procedures safe , whereas in third trimester states could proscribe abortion .

The roe v waded decision is based on a live birth requirement for equal protection with a citizen , where an ability for a fetus to survive an imminent live birth , post natural viability , was substituted in lieu of a live birth requirement .