When was war declared against Venezuela?

[WEATHER53]

The drug runners declared war on USA and we responded
Thinker 101

But….blubbber….but….weep..but…blubber…they were trying to turn the boat around….weeep…..blubber

Lib 101

 

[berg80]

But….blubbber….but….weep..but…blubber…they were trying to turn the boat around….weeep…..blubber

Lib 101

Somewhere mingled in the foam and debris of the Caribbean Sea are the remains of at least 17 people who were killed this month by U.S. military forces on the orders of President Trump. They were aboard three speedboats that the Trump administration said were carrying drugs and smugglers from Venezuela.

Perhaps they were. Yet the administration has produced no evidence for its claims. And even if the allegations are correct, blowing up the boats is a lawless exercise in the use of deadly force.

On social media, Mr. Trump assured the public that the passengers were not only drug traffickers but also “narcoterrorists” and members of the Tren de Aragua criminal gang, which he said was under the control of President Nicolás Maduro of Venezuela. Military force was justified as a form of self-defense, he said, because the cartels are “threatening our national security,” and his top aides have vowed to continue the strikes. The self-defense justification looks especially weak after The Times reported that the first of the three boats turned away from the United States before being destroyed.

With these attacks, Mr. Trump has ordered the summary execution of people who are not at war with the United States in any traditional sense of the term and who may not even have been committing the crime of which he accused them. It is a violation of legal due process that should alarm all Americans. It is even more extreme than his policy of sending migrants to a brutal prison in El Salvador, based on questionable claims that they belonged to Tren de Aragua and without any chance to contest the government’s claims. The United States, created in opposition to monarchy, should never become a country where the president can order the indefinite imprisonment or the unilateral killing of people merely because he has deemed them to be criminals.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/24/opinion/trump-caribbean-sea-boats-military.html

Where's the evidence of the orange piece of shit's claims about the people he ordered to be killed?

 

[Concerned American]

Somewhere mingled in the foam and debris of the Caribbean Sea are the remains of at least 17 people who were killed this month by U.S. military forces on the orders of President Trump. They were aboard three speedboats that the Trump administration said were carrying drugs and smugglers from Venezuela.

Perhaps they were. Yet the administration has produced no evidence for its claims. And even if the allegations are correct, blowing up the boats is a lawless exercise in the use of deadly force.

On social media, Mr. Trump assured the public that the passengers were not only drug traffickers but also “narcoterrorists” and members of the Tren de Aragua criminal gang, which he said was under the control of President Nicolás Maduro of Venezuela. Military force was justified as a form of self-defense, he said, because the cartels are “threatening our national security,” and his top aides have vowed to continue the strikes. The self-defense justification looks especially weak after The Times reported that the first of the three boats turned away from the United States before being destroyed.

With these attacks, Mr. Trump has ordered the summary execution of people who are not at war with the United States in any traditional sense of the term and who may not even have been committing the crime of which he accused them. It is a violation of legal due process that should alarm all Americans. It is even more extreme than his policy of sending migrants to a brutal prison in El Salvador, based on questionable claims that they belonged to Tren de Aragua and without any chance to contest the government’s claims. The United States, created in opposition to monarchy, should never become a country where the president can order the indefinite imprisonment or the unilateral killing of people merely because he has deemed them to be criminals.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/24/opinion/trump-caribbean-sea-boats-military.html

Where's the evidence of the orange piece of shit's claims about the people he ordered to be killed?

It would be nice if you questioned the motives of the smugglers that were targeted to the extent that you are questioning our president. LMAO, wake up moron. Trump isn't attacking tourists in the Caribbean---he's targeting criminals who are murdering our citizens. STFU.

 

[BlindBoo]

Slippery slope.

Responding to news that former Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte has been arrested by Philippine authorities on the basis of an arrest warrant issued by the International Criminal Court (ICC) against him for the crime against humanity of murder in relation to killings in the “war on drugs”, Agnes Callamard, Secretary General of Amnesty International, said:

Philippines: Former President Duterte’s arrest a monumental step for justice

Responding to news that former Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte has been arrested by Philippine authorities on the basis of an arrest warrant issued by the International Criminal Court (ICC) against him for the crime against humanity of murder in relation to killings in the “war on drugs”...

www.amnesty.org

“Rodrigo Duterte’s arrest is a long-awaited and monumental step for justice for the thousands of victims and survivors of his administration’s ‘war on drugs’, which turned much of the Philippines into a nation of mourning. The man who said, ‘my job is to kill’ oversaw the shootings to death of victims – including children – as part of a deliberate, widespread and well-organized campaign of state-sanctioned killings.

 

[berg80]

It would be nice if you questioned the motives of the smugglers that were targeted

I have no idea if they were actually smugglers or not and neither do you since the regime is completely untrustworthy. Where's the evidence?

 

[Concerned American]

I have no idea if they were actually smugglers or not and neither do you since the regime is completely untrustworthy. Where's the evidence?

Where is YOUR evidence? I have more faith in my government than I do in drug smugglers from a third world country that is KNOWN to be the source of dangerous drugs getting into the country. This isn't new, moron. Let go of your ignorant partisan blinders and start using your head for a change.

 

[Mr Natural]

Fewer drugs, higher prices, more muggings.

 

[Delldude]

Bush era law.

Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF)

 

[berg80]

Where is YOUR evidence? I have more faith in my government than I do in drug smugglers from a third world country that is KNOWN to be the source of dangerous drugs getting into the country. This isn't new, moron. Let go of your ignorant partisan blinders and start using your head for a change.

The regime initiated the killings. It's up to the regime to justify them.

The military commander overseeing the Pentagon’s escalating attacks against boats in the Caribbean Sea that the Trump administration says are smuggling drugs said on Thursday that he was stepping down.

The officer, Adm. Alvin Holsey, is leaving his job as head of the U.S. Southern Command, which oversees all operations in Central and South America, even as the Pentagon has rapidly built up some 10,000 forces in the region in what it says is a major counterdrug and counterterrorism mission.

It was unclear why Admiral Holsey is suddenly departing, less than a year into what is typically a three-year job, and in the midst of the biggest operation in his 37-year career. But one current and one former U.S. official, both of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss personnel matters, said that Admiral Holsey had raised concerns about the mission and the attacks on the alleged drug boats.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/16/us/politics/southern-command-head-stepping-down.html?campaign_id=60&emc=edit_na_20251016&instance_id=164579&nl=breaking-news&regi_id=65145149&segment_id=208045&user_id=fecdfdffdaaa11107b72f0f4f6e429cc

 

[Concerned American]

It was unclear why Admiral Holsey is suddenly departing, less than a year into what is typically a three-year job, and in the midst of the biggest operation in his 37-year career. But one current and one former U.S. official, both of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss personnel matters, said that Admiral Holsey had raised concerns about the mission and the attacks on the alleged drug boats.

Ya think maybe he was concerned about attacks on his family by these cartels? Naw, those narco terrorists would never do that, eh?

 

[Delldude]

He's probably doing this under AUMF which Bush signed into law and is still in affect.

 

[Concerned American]

He's probably doing this under AUMF which Bush signed into law and is still in affect.

Seems I did hear a reference to that regarding these actions.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Slippery slope.

Responding to news that former Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte has been arrested by Philippine authorities on the basis of an arrest warrant issued by the International Criminal Court (ICC) against him for the crime against humanity of murder in relation to killings in the “war on drugs”, Agnes Callamard, Secretary General of Amnesty International, said:

Philippines: Former President Duterte’s arrest a monumental step for justice

Responding to news that former Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte has been arrested by Philippine authorities on the basis of an arrest warrant issued by the International Criminal Court (ICC) against him for the crime against humanity of murder in relation to killings in the “war on drugs”...

www.amnesty.org

“Rodrigo Duterte’s arrest is a long-awaited and monumental step for justice for the thousands of victims and survivors of his administration’s ‘war on drugs’, which turned much of the Philippines into a nation of mourning. The man who said, ‘my job is to kill’ oversaw the shootings to death of victims – including children – as part of a deliberate, widespread and well-organized campaign of state-sanctioned killings.

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Yeah, Duterte had it going on!






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[Anathema]

“When was war declared against Venezuela?”

When Trump needed to try and deflect from the Epstein debacle.

No. It was declared decades ago, by Mexico, Columbia, Venezuela, etc… when they decided to import drugs into our country.

We have been utterly remiss in actually carrying out a WAR on these drug traffickers, producers, and the nations that either support or actively aid them.

 

[BlindBoo]

He's probably doing this under AUMF which Bush signed into law and is still in affect.

How many suicide bombers have the Capitalist Drug Cartels convinced their follower to die for their cause? The cartels have not declared war on their best customers. They don't care about the consequences of their products or their customers, but they are not actively targeting Americans for violent, deadly attacks like Al Qaeda and other Islamic Radicals are. They are nothing like the religiously motivated enemy like the Islamic Radicals whom the 2001 AMUF was created to authorize using military forced. The American King is a criminal for his extrajudicial murders in international waters.

 

[Delldude]

They are nothing like the religiously motivated enemy like the Islamic Radicals whom the 2001 AMUF was created to authorize using military forced

Santa Muerte has a fondness for tequila, cigarettes, candy — and human blood.

The saint is a favorite of Mexican and Central American drug traffickers who are known to leave the severed heads of their enemies at improvised shrines, featuring wax effigies and votive candles emblazoned with the skeletal image of the one also known as Holy Death.
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“The narcos and the gangs all believe in the power of prayer,” said Robert Almonte, a Texas-based security consultant and former deputy chief of the El Paso Police Department who specialized in narcotics. “They believe that the saints will protect them no matter what they do — and that’s dangerous because it emboldens the traffickers who truly believe they can get away with murder and still go to heaven.”

Santa Muerte and five more ‘religious’ saints worshiped by drug cartels

An inside look at the “religious” saints — said to be the patrons of outlaws and murder — worshiped by drug cartels.

nypost.com

 

[BlindBoo]

Santa Muerte has a fondness for tequila, cigarettes, candy — and human blood.

The saint is a favorite of Mexican and Central American drug traffickers who are known to leave the severed heads of their enemies at improvised shrines, featuring wax effigies and votive candles emblazoned with the skeletal image of the one also known as Holy Death.
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“The narcos and the gangs all believe in the power of prayer,” said Robert Almonte, a Texas-based security consultant and former deputy chief of the El Paso Police Department who specialized in narcotics. “They believe that the saints will protect them no matter what they do — and that’s dangerous because it emboldens the traffickers who truly believe they can get away with murder and still go to heaven.”

Santa Muerte and five more ‘religious’ saints worshiped by drug cartels

An inside look at the “religious” saints — said to be the patrons of outlaws and murder — worshiped by drug cartels.

nypost.com

The gang wars are a direct result of the prohibition of recreational substances that people want. Alcohol caused huge gang wars in America nearly a century ago. International prohibition has cause a world wide gang war. Prohibition is the root cause, not the people using recreational substances.

 

[Delldude]

The gang wars are a direct result of the prohibition of recreational substances that people want. Alcohol caused huge gang wars in America nearly a century ago. International prohibition has cause a world wide gang war. Prohibition is the root cause, not the people using recreational substances.

So you were wrong about the cartels being religious zealots.

AI diversion noted.

 

[BlindBoo]

So you were wrong about the cartels being religious zealots.

AI diversion noted.

Do they kill themselves for 70 virgins too? How many suicide bombings by the Cartels are based on a religious ideology? 0. I don't think there are many SBer's in that business.......

The ideology of the cartels is purely profit driven, not Prophet driven.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Santa Muerte has a fondness for tequila, cigarettes, candy — and human blood.

The saint is a favorite of Mexican and Central American drug traffickers who are known to leave the severed heads of their enemies at improvised shrines, featuring wax effigies and votive candles emblazoned with the skeletal image of the one also known as Holy Death.
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“The narcos and the gangs all believe in the power of prayer,” said Robert Almonte, a Texas-based security consultant and former deputy chief of the El Paso Police Department who specialized in narcotics. “They believe that the saints will protect them no matter what they do — and that’s dangerous because it emboldens the traffickers who truly believe they can get away with murder and still go to heaven.”

Santa Muerte and five more ‘religious’ saints worshiped by drug cartels

An inside look at the “religious” saints — said to be the patrons of outlaws and murder — worshiped by drug cartels.

nypost.com

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Lots of Hispanic Catholics still mingle vestiges of the Death Cult within what they perceive their Catholic faith to be.

Sorry, I don't have the time and energy to look it up, but this guy, Jesse Romero, is very familiar with the Santa Muerte cult, although he himself is a straight-up Catholic. Someday, I'll look up some of the video he has done on the subject. I think he's been banned from YouTube.

Jesse Romero | Catholic Author • Radio Host • Evangelist

Jesse Romero is an internationally renowned Catholic who sets the hearts of his listeners on fire with a passion for Jesus Christ and His Catholic Church!

jesseromero.com

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