When was war declared against Venezuela?

berg80 said:

Boat Suspected of Smuggling Drugs Is Said to Have Turned Before U.S. Attacked It​

The Trump administration has argued that the summary killing of 11 people it accused of running drugs was legal under the laws of war.

A Venezuelan boat that the U.S. military destroyed in the Caribbean last week had altered its course and appeared to have turned around before the attack started because the people onboard had apparently spotted a military aircraft stalking it, according to American officials familiar with the matter.

The military repeatedly hit the vessel before it sank, the officials added, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive matter. The administration has claimed the boat was carrying drugs.

The disclosures provide new details about an operation that was a startling departure from traditional drug interdiction efforts, escalating President Trump’s use of the military for matters typically handled by law enforcement. Legal specialists have disputed that it was lawful for the military, on President Trump’s orders, to target and kill drug smuggling suspects as if they were combatants in a war.

Does declaring war against drug smugglers mean we can bomb people in Mexico? Importantly, where is the hard evidence the trump government made about the boat and the people in it?

Vitally, have the Repub's in Congress scheduled hearings on the matter of the government's claimed justification? If not why not?
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Maybe next time we can offer your heroes cookies and milk if they promise to play nice.
 
Concerned American said:
That's the message they are sending. Crime in the streets in blue cities, unbridled immigration, allow drugs into the country with impunity--DEMOCRAT PLATFORMS.
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The amazing thing is that these re-tards don't even realize that they're shooting themselves in the foot...

They're so blinded by their entrenched ideology that the true state of affairs doesn't even register on their (obsolete) radar...

"Ya can't fix it if ya don't know it's broke."

Hey... maybe Sane Americans should just keep quiet about that and let them finish committing political suicide... :cool:
 
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berg80 said:

Boat Suspected of Smuggling Drugs Is Said to Have Turned Before U.S. Attacked It​

The Trump administration has argued that the summary killing of 11 people it accused of running drugs was legal under the laws of war.

A Venezuelan boat that the U.S. military destroyed in the Caribbean last week had altered its course and appeared to have turned around before the attack started because the people onboard had apparently spotted a military aircraft stalking it, according to American officials familiar with the matter.

The military repeatedly hit the vessel before it sank, the officials added, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive matter. The administration has claimed the boat was carrying drugs.

The disclosures provide new details about an operation that was a startling departure from traditional drug interdiction efforts, escalating President Trump’s use of the military for matters typically handled by law enforcement. Legal specialists have disputed that it was lawful for the military, on President Trump’s orders, to target and kill drug smuggling suspects as if they were combatants in a war.

Does declaring war against drug smugglers mean we can bomb people in Mexico? Importantly, where is the hard evidence the trump government made about the boat and the people in it?

Vitally, have the Repub's in Congress scheduled hearings on the matter of the government's claimed justification? If not why not?
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When did the US attack Venezuela?
 
berg80 said:

Boat Suspected of Smuggling Drugs Is Said to Have Turned Before U.S. Attacked It​

The Trump administration has argued that the summary killing of 11 people it accused of running drugs was legal under the laws of war.

A Venezuelan boat that the U.S. military destroyed in the Caribbean last week had altered its course and appeared to have turned around before the attack started because the people onboard had apparently spotted a military aircraft stalking it, according to American officials familiar with the matter.

The military repeatedly hit the vessel before it sank, the officials added, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive matter. The administration has claimed the boat was carrying drugs.

The disclosures provide new details about an operation that was a startling departure from traditional drug interdiction efforts, escalating President Trump’s use of the military for matters typically handled by law enforcement. Legal specialists have disputed that it was lawful for the military, on President Trump’s orders, to target and kill drug smuggling suspects as if they were combatants in a war.

Does declaring war against drug smugglers mean we can bomb people in Mexico? Importantly, where is the hard evidence the trump government made about the boat and the people in it?

Vitally, have the Repub's in Congress scheduled hearings on the matter of the government's claimed justification? If not why not?
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Drug smugglers were attacked, not the Venezualan government. There is no war to declare. Besides, presidents dont need to declare war in order to attack other nations anyway. :dunno:
 
berg80 said:

Boat Suspected of Smuggling Drugs Is Said to Have Turned Before U.S. Attacked It​

The Trump administration has argued that the summary killing of 11 people it accused of running drugs was legal under the laws of war.

A Venezuelan boat that the U.S. military destroyed in the Caribbean last week had altered its course and appeared to have turned around before the attack started because the people onboard had apparently spotted a military aircraft stalking it, according to American officials familiar with the matter.

The military repeatedly hit the vessel before it sank, the officials added, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive matter. The administration has claimed the boat was carrying drugs.

The disclosures provide new details about an operation that was a startling departure from traditional drug interdiction efforts, escalating President Trump’s use of the military for matters typically handled by law enforcement. Legal specialists have disputed that it was lawful for the military, on President Trump’s orders, to target and kill drug smuggling suspects as if they were combatants in a war.

Does declaring war against drug smugglers mean we can bomb people in Mexico? Importantly, where is the hard evidence the trump government made about the boat and the people in it?

Vitally, have the Repub's in Congress scheduled hearings on the matter of the government's claimed justification? If not why not?
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Formally declaring war ended with the Korean Police Academy

Congress got too busy putting themselves on a commission based on Federal spending to be bothered to either declare war or craft an actual budget
 
Never. King Benedict doesn't need a congressional declaration of war. Hell he doesn't even need any kind of resolution. They wont even try to invoke the war powers act. They applaud his deadly assault on those unfettered capitalist. How dare they try to smuggle in contraband that Americans demand. All for a profit too, those bastards.
 
berg80 said:

Boat Suspected of Smuggling Drugs Is Said to Have Turned Before U.S. Attacked It​

The Trump administration has argued that the summary killing of 11 people it accused of running drugs was legal under the laws of war.

A Venezuelan boat that the U.S. military destroyed in the Caribbean last week had altered its course and appeared to have turned around before the attack started because the people onboard had apparently spotted a military aircraft stalking it, according to American officials familiar with the matter.

The military repeatedly hit the vessel before it sank, the officials added, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive matter. The administration has claimed the boat was carrying drugs.

The disclosures provide new details about an operation that was a startling departure from traditional drug interdiction efforts, escalating President Trump’s use of the military for matters typically handled by law enforcement. Legal specialists have disputed that it was lawful for the military, on President Trump’s orders, to target and kill drug smuggling suspects as if they were combatants in a war.

Does declaring war against drug smugglers mean we can bomb people in Mexico? Importantly, where is the hard evidence the trump government made about the boat and the people in it?

Vitally, have the Repub's in Congress scheduled hearings on the matter of the government's claimed justification? If not why not?
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We kill terrorists. Get used to it, because your Antifa buddies are on the list now, too.
 
Phukk 'em... let 'em rot-in-hell ( actually, by now, they're microscopic pieces of regurgitated fish-food )...

If reports are true that these were boats and personnel confirmed-in-advance as drug traffickers...

And if we've legitimately declared those cartels to be Terrorist Organizations...

Then hitting them without warning or a hail to halt-and-be-boarded when in international waters is entirely legitimate...

And even if it's not... within reason... all's fair in love and war... including un-declared war like this...

With response to this scum, if we kill them as part of legitimate defensive anti-terror/anti-drug ops off-shore...

Then we don't have to bother with show-trials nor housing them in perpetuity at the taxpayer's expense...

AND we send a VERY clear message to their compadre-scum who haven't been hit yet...

AND we make the cartels a little poorer and hit 'em in the pocketboot a little-bit while we're doing warm-up exercises...

Win-Win-Win-Win... :banana: :clap::auiqs.jpg:🆒
 
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Kondor3 said:
The amazing thing is that these re-tards don't even realize that they're shooting themselves in the foot...

They're so blinded by their entrenched ideology that the true state of affairs doesn't even register on their (obsolete) radar...

"Ya can't fix it if ya don't know it's broke."

Hey... maybe Sane Americans should just keep quiet about that and let them finish committing political suicide... :cool:
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Mr. Trump claimed that the boat was heading to the United States and linked it to “drug trafficking cartels” that he said posed a threat to the country. The president said the people killed were “positively identified,” but he did not identify a specific organization with which they were alleged to be associated.

Mr. Trump also posted a 27-second video on social media that edited together several clips of aerial surveillance. It showed a speedboat bobbing in the water, before a fiery explosion engulfed the vessel. It was unclear what was on the boat.

The Pentagon on Monday offered no other details on the strike, referring to Mr. Trump’s social media post, although a Defense Department official separately said it was a Special Operations strike.

Legal specialists condemned the U.S. military action as illegal, as they had a similar first American attack on another vessel on Sept. 2.

“Trump is normalizing what I consider to be an unlawful strike,” said Rear Adm. Donald J. Guter, a retired top judge advocate general for the Navy from 2000 to 2002.

Has the regime offered to produce a shred of evidence backing up their claims about who they killed? No. Why? Because Repubs, who control Congress, are too afraid to ask.
 
BlindBoo said:
Never. King Benedict doesn't need a congressional declaration of war. Hell he doesn't even need any kind of resolution. They wont even try to invoke the war powers act. They applaud his deadly assault on those unfettered capitalist. How dare they try to smuggle in contraband that Americans demand. All for a profit too, those bastards.
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Neither did Biden, Obama, both Bushes, Reagan, LBJ or Truman
 
berg80 said:
...Has the regime offered to produce a shred of evidence backing up their claims about who they killed?...
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Do they need to?

berg80 said:
...No. Why? Because Repubs, who control Congress, are too afraid to ask.
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Oh, there are actually several possible reasons...

1. the Republicans who control Congress are too afraid to ask ( bloody unlikely, mate )

2. the Democrats are too afraid to ask because they know they're already perceived as wrong-headed about cartel blocking

3. the information is already available to bipartisan oversight committees and classified as some sort of secret

4. very few people really give a rat's a$$ about blowing-up a few Commie-run drug-smuggling speedboats

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Besides... provoking the Venezuelans into doing something stupid to justify an overthrow of Maduro might prove worthwhile.

Phukk 'em...
 
CrusaderFrank said:
Neither did Biden, Obama, both Bushes, Reagan, LBJ or Truman
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Just how many alleged smugglers and their boats in international waters did those presidents order the military to sink and then to repeats strikes on survivors in the water until every soul on board was killed? Shit Raygun's CIA allowed the Contra Rebels access to the American Black Market to sell cocaine as a way around Congress to finance their war.

You forgot Ike, Kennedy, Nixon/Ford, and Carter.
 
BlindBoo said:
Just how many alleged smugglers and their boats in international waters did those presidents order the military to sink and then to repeats strikes on survivors in the water until every soul on board was killed? Shit Raygun's CIA allowed the Contra Rebels access to the American Black Market to sell cocaine as a way around Congress to finance their war.

You forgot Ike, Kennedy, Nixon/Ford, and Carter.
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We don’t care what the previous feckless did not do
 
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On Sept. 20, Trump said, "Thousands of people are dying because of those boatloads of drugs, fentanyl and a lot of other drugs."
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"There is no evidence of fentanyl or cocaine laced with fentanyl coming from Venezuela or anywhere else in South America," Smilde said.
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"For all the many sins of the Maduro dictatorship, there is no evidence to suggest that it is engaged in a war of terror against the US, or that it is using drugs and violent criminals to undermine the US government," Gunson said.
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A 2024 DEA fact-sheet says 90% of cocaine reaching the U.S. is produced in Colombia and enters the U.S. via Mexico. The report doesn’t mention Venezuela.
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BlindBoo said:
Just how many alleged smugglers and their boats in international waters did those presidents order the military to sink and then to repeats strikes on survivors in the water until every soul on board was killed? Shit Raygun's CIA allowed the Contra Rebels access to the American Black Market to sell cocaine as a way around Congress to finance their war.

You forgot Ike, Kennedy, Nixon/Ford, and Carter.
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We win all 5 declared wars, not so much since then

Democrats and Republicans should be barred from holding political office
 
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