When was war declared against Venezuela?

[GLASNOST]

I was friends with a WW2 SAS Veteran for several years until he passed away a few years ago, he fought in Libya Greece and Europe, i had a Christmas card from him every year, those bastards who murdered civilians including Children are not fit to wipe that mans backside, one of the cards i had at Christmas with SAS winged Dagger emblem.

That's the one, alright.

 

[Delldude]

Wouldn't you guys think it's a cover up at the highest levels? Can you guys believe anything the military says?

What to know about Trump's Cabinet meeting:​

• President Trump and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth revealed new details about a strike on an alleged drug boat in September that has sparked intense criticism and calls for investigations.
• The two spoke at the final Cabinet meeting of the year at the White House on Tuesday. At the end of the meeting, both men addressed a Washington Post report that said the military launched a follow-up strike on Sept. 2 that killed two survivors of an initial attack. White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt confirmed Monday that a second strike occurred, although she said a Navy admiral, not Hegseth, gave the command to hit the boat again.
• Hegseth detailed his involvement in the operation, saying he was watching the first strike live. He said he did not see survivors in the water and was not watching when the admiral in charge of the operation ordered a follow-up strike. But he added that the admiral, Frank Bradley, "made the correct decision" and had "complete authority" to order the second strike.
• The president said he was not aware of the second strike at the time. He also said that the U.S. is "going to start doing those strikes on land" raising the prospect of deeper military involvement against alleged drug traffickers in South America.

Trump and Hegseth provide new details on controversial strikes on alleged drug boat

President Trump and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth revealed new details about an attack on an alleged drug boat in September that has sparked intense criticism.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Deadstick]

Wasn't George Formby the Emperor of Lancashire?

He was from Wigan in Lancashire.

 

[Delldude]

Suddenly all the bullshit from the left has 'left' the building.....

WTF??

 

[eagle1462010]

Suddenly all the bullshit from the left has 'left' the building.....

WTF??

They trying to think of new Lies to try and sell us.

 

[GLASNOST]

He was from Wigan in Lancashire.
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I once belonged to the English Club here in town. On poetry evening I would often quote Formby lines just to take the edge off of the snobbish members of the club. Try as they may the old ladies couldn't conceal their joy. They blushed and giggled like school girls.

 

[Deadstick]

I once belonged to the English Club here in town. On poetry evening I would often quote Formby lines just to take the edge off of the snobbish members of the club. Try as they may the old ladies couldn't conceal their joy. They blushed and giggled like school girls.

Yes he was a one off, have you seen any of the old movies he made? another popular British comic was Norman Wisdom more from the 50s and a little later, i believe he was very popular in Albania which i found very strange.

 

[GLASNOST]

..... Formby .....

Yes he was a one off,

Loved him!

have you seen any of the old movies he made?

I don't think I ever have but "When I'm Cleaning Windows" is one of my favourite tunes. His bubbly giggle is enough to make you split a gut!

another popular British comic was Norman Wisdom

A new one on me so I'm going to watch your linked video ..... right now.

 

[Delldude]

Anybody object to me posting something to do with the Original Topic?

These smugglers are just your average Joe trying to provide food for their families.

 

[Delldude]

As just reported on Primetime with Jesse Waters.......from ABC Martha Raddatz, two people who survived the bombing, got back on the damaged boat, tried to save the coke while in communication with someone.

Kaboom

 

[LuckyDuck01!]

Boat Suspected of Smuggling Drugs Is Said to Have Turned Before U.S. Attacked It​

The Trump administration has argued that the summary killing of 11 people it accused of running drugs was legal under the laws of war.

A Venezuelan boat that the U.S. military destroyed in the Caribbean last week had altered its course and appeared to have turned around before the attack started because the people onboard had apparently spotted a military aircraft stalking it, according to American officials familiar with the matter.

The military repeatedly hit the vessel before it sank, the officials added, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive matter. The administration has claimed the boat was carrying drugs.

The disclosures provide new details about an operation that was a startling departure from traditional drug interdiction efforts, escalating President Trump’s use of the military for matters typically handled by law enforcement. Legal specialists have disputed that it was lawful for the military, on President Trump’s orders, to target and kill drug smuggling suspects as if they were combatants in a war.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/10/us/trump-drug-boat-venezuela-strike.html?campaign_id=190&emc=edit_ufn_20250910&instance_id=162263&nl=from-the-times&regi_id=65145149&segment_id=205638&user_id=fecdfdffdaaa11107b72f0f4f6e429cc

Does declaring war against drug smugglers mean we can bomb people in Mexico? Importantly, where is the hard evidence the trump government made about the boat and the people in it?

Vitally, have the Repub's in Congress scheduled hearings on the matter of the government's claimed justification? If not why not?

The claim going around is that the US gunned down the drug runners in the water that had survived the initial attack. That claim has been debunked. Even the anti-Trump leftist rag, the New York Times, acknowledged that, that didn't happen.
The military and Coast Guard are following all rules of engagement.
The "war" was declared on Venezuela's drug manufacturing and running businesses, not on the nation itself.
However, perhaps the US should go into Venezuela. Maria Machado actually won the primary election in Venezuela, but the Maduro Communist government refused to accept her win. That's what Communist authoritarian governments do.

 

[frigidweirdo]

While the White House has not provided a detailed legal rationale, it has put forward the outlines of a novel argument that using lethal military force was permissible under the laws of armed conflict to defend the country from drugs because 100,000 Americans die annually from overdoses. Secretary of State Marco Rubio said people suspected of smuggling drugs toward the United States pose “an immediate threat.” Mr. Trump, in a letter to Congress, justified the attack as a matter of self-defense.

Many legal specialists, including retired top military lawyers, have rejected the idea that Mr. Trump has legitimate authority to treat suspected drug smuggling as legally equivalent to an imminent armed attack on the United States. Even if one accepted that premise for the sake of argument, they added, if the boat had already turned away, that would further undermine what they saw as an already weak claim of self-defense.

The thing is, at this moment in time trump's power is unchecked. Congressional Repub's will not stand up to him and the SC is enabling the erosion of democracy.

Attacking drug runners and trying to stop drugs while pardoning rich drug traffickers... hmm.... anyone believe this?

 

[Deadstick]

As just reported on Primetime with Jesse Waters.......from ABC Martha Raddatz, two people who survived the bombing, got back on the damaged boat, tried to save the coke while in communication with someone.

Kaboom

Who the hell is Jesse Waters when he is at home?

 

[Deadstick]

The claim going around is that the US gunned down the drug runners in the water that had survived the initial attack. That claim has been debunked. Even the anti-Trump leftist rag, the New York Times, acknowledged that, that didn't happen.
The military and Coast Guard are following all rules of engagement.
The "war" was declared on Venezuela's drug manufacturing and running businesses, not on the nation itself.
However, perhaps the US should go into Venezuela. Maria Machado actually won the primary election in Venezuela, but the Maduro Communist government refused to accept her win. That's what Communist authoritarian governments do.

Blowing up civilian boats on the high seas is what Authoritarian Fascist Regimes do.

 

[Delldude]

Who the hell is Jesse Waters when he is at home?

No relation to Maxine Waters.

So they were trying to save the product.

They were believed to be potentially in communication with others, and salvaging some of the drugs. Because of that, it was determined they were still in the fight and valid targets. A JAG officer was also giving legal advice.

 

[Deadstick]

No relation to Maxine Waters.

So they were trying to save the product.

They were believed to be potentially in communication with others, and salvaging some of the drugs. Because of that, it was determined they were still in the fight and valid targets. A JAG officer was also giving legal advice.

Believed to be by whom pray tell?

 

[Delldude]

Joes knows how to deal with drug smugglers.

"Let's go after the drug lords where they live with an international strike force. There must be no safe haven for these narco-terrorists and they must know it."

 

[Deadstick]

Joes knows how to deal with drug smugglers.

"Let's go after the drug lords where they live with an international strike force. There must be no safe haven for these narco-terrorists and they must know it."

How about young Americans not treating drug taking like some right of passage?

 

[Delldude]

How about young Americans not treating drug taking like some right of passage?

Ok, how about cutting the head of the snake off for openers?

 

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