When Libertarians or the like say “I mind my own business”/ “live and let live” what do they really mean? Is there really a Libertarian Party anymore?

[dblack]

I think not.

The stuffing up the ass part would be a leftist culture thing.

It would be both.

You go be you with them

Yes, yes. "Us" vs "Them".

 

[eagle1462010]

It would be both.

Yes, yes. "Us" vs "Them".

It is Us vs them. You just too much of a coward to pick a side.

Open borders..NOPE
Higher Taxes...NOPE
Pushing DEI in schools...NOPE
Excessive Regulations....NOPE
Fake Women in Womans sports...NOPE
Attacking the 2nd Amendment NOPE
Being the Worlds police force...NOPE
Borrowing money to give it away...NOPE.

And many more.

 

[Oddball]

It means you can stuff your culture war up your deplorable fat ass.

It's axiomatic: politics is downstream of culture.

We have LO2E politics is because of a culture that accepts evil as the focal point.

 

[dblack]

It is Us vs them. You just too much of a coward to pick a side.

Well, here's hoping both sides lose!

 

[eagle1462010]

You know IDGAF about California shoving solar panels up their asses.

But I do have a problem when they want to try it in my state.

Sooooo SCREW THEM.

Which State said that the 2nd Amendment doesnt exist here?

 

[eagle1462010]

Well, here's hoping both sides lose!

So. You hope America loses and REFUSE to stand with those who dont want Perverts Agenda pushed on kids.

You are a Fake. You are on their side

 

[eagle1462010]

Wicked Witch of New York

 

[BrokeLoser]

It's axiomatic: politics is downstream of culture.

We have LO2E politics is because of a culture that accepts evil as the focal point.

This “culture war” dblack detests only becomes a “war” as Conservatives become retaliatory, push back and impede leftist progress regress…If the right would have just stayed the passive pussies they were for decades dblack would never use the phrase. He hates that Conservatives have found their nuts.

 

[dblack]

So. You hope America loses and REFUSE to stand with those who dont want Perverts Agenda pushed on kids.

You are a Fake. You are on their side

Sure. Whatever little story you wanna tell yourself.

 

[eagle1462010]

Sure. Whatever little story you wanna tell yourself.

Nope. Im telling you that

 

[dblack]

Nope. Im telling you that

Well then, I guess I've been told!

 

[Independent thinker]

Based on my experiences here it seems like self proclaimed Libertarians are just re-packaged socially left as hell progressives who are probably voting Democrat in secret…kind of…sometimes.
Anytime I hear “I mind my own business” or “live and let live” it’s generally a Libertarian of sorts saying it, it’s usually directed at a Conservative and seemingly used to thwart conservative efforts to preserve and protect American values, family values, Christian values, western culture and or the moral order that built and pillared this once great nation.
Lets be honest…these days, doesn’t “live and let live” and “I mind my own business” really just mean ‘I’m happy with the Leftist movement in America right now so leave it alone you meddling Conservative’?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/05/30/libertarian-party-chase-oliver-nominee-policies/

There is no Libertarian Party anymore. Out of the votes cast in 2024, Chase Oliver won .38% of the vote. When you factor in that he may have actually gotten some votes from people who aren't even Libertarians, the percentage would be even worse than that. Whatever is left of the Libertarian party would have been better off staying home and binging reruns of Gilligan's Island.

 

[BrokeLoser]

There is no Libertarian Party anymore. Out of the votes cast in 2024, Chase Oliver won .38% of the vote. When you factor in that he may have actually gotten some votes from people who aren't even Libertarians, the percentage would be even worse than that. Whatever is left of the Libertarian party would have been better off staying home and binging reruns of Gilligan's Island.

It's axiomatic: politics is downstream of culture.

We have LO2E politics is because of a culture that accepts evil as the focal point.

A poster in this thread NetJedi , an admitted Libertarian said the Libertarian Party is shit, he’s obviously right…. dblack has said that he voted for Chase Oliver, do you think dblack believes he voted for the lesser of three evils?
dblack does that tell you anything? If we had 17 parties some would say we’re all voting for the lesser of 17 evils….right?

 

[Independent thinker]

A poster in this thread NetJedi , an admitted Libertarian said the Libertarian Party is shit, he’s obviously right…. dblack has said that he voted for Chase Oliver, do you think dblack believes he voted for the lesser of three evils?
dblack does that tell you anything? If we had 17 parties some would say we’re all voting for the lesser of 17 evils….right?

That's the point I always make. These people tell us that instead of voting for the lesser of two evils, we should just vote against the duopoly, as if someone else isn't the lesser of 3 evils or 17 evils. I would gladly vote for a great third party candidate but I have yet to see one.

 

[initforme]

That's the point I always make. These people tell us that instead of voting for the lesser of two evils, we should just vote against the duopoly, as if someone else isn't the lesser of 3 evils or 17 evils. I would gladly vote for a great third party candidate but I have yet to see one.

As old as I am in my lifetime I've never seen a candidate i believe in.

 

[BrokeLoser]

That's the point I always make. These people tell us that instead of voting for the lesser of two evils, we should just vote against the duopoly, as if someone else isn't the lesser of 3 evils or 17 evils. I would gladly vote for a great third party candidate but I have yet to see one.

I’ve lost hope in a third party…The opportunity to win can’t any better than it just was…All Lib-lites had to was beat two 80 year olds (before the Indian vagina got in the mix)…the incumbent had an approval rating of 38% and a shit record across the board and the other candidate is a twice impeached, fraud committing finger rapist game show host with really bad hair and felony charges up the ass and the best they could come up was Chase fucking Oliver…WTF!!
dblack NetJedi are you still hopeful…if so, how?

 

[Independent thinker]

I’ve lost hope in a third party…The opportunity to win can’t any better than it just was…All Lib-lites had to was beat two 80 year olds (before the Indian vagina got in the mix)…the incumbent had an approval rating of 38% and a shit record across the board and the other candidate is a twice impeached, fraud committing finger rapist game show host with really bad hair and felony charges up the ass and the best they could come up was Chase fucking Oliver…WTF!!
dblack are you still hopeful…if so, how?

The dbacks of the world believe they are seed planters like Johnny Appleseed. Today we plant the seeds. They eventually start growing, and finally reach maturity many years down the road, maybe even after we are dead. The important thing is to just plant the seeds. The trouble with that thinking is that Libertarians have been going backwards, not forwards.

Not only aren't the seeds growing at all but there are less and less seeds every election. I remember back when Gary Johnson was running in 2016. He was at around 10% in polling at one point and hoped to reach 20%. He eventually wound up with just over 3% of the vote. The party has gone downhill ever since. This year Chase Oliver was hoping to get 2% of the vote. He wound up with .38%. Their seeds don't grow.

 

[dblack]

The dbacks of the world believe they are seed planters like Johnny Appleseed. Today we plant the seeds. They eventually start growing, and finally reach maturity many years down the road, maybe even after we are dead. The important thing is to just plant the seeds. The trouble with that thinking is that Libertarians have been going backwards, not forwards.

The Libertarian party, like all third parties, is irrelevant because the two shit parties control who can get elected. Until we break up the duopoly, we're going to get worse and worse government.

 

[NetJedi]

A poster in this thread NetJedi , an admitted Libertarian said the Libertarian Party is shit, he’s obviously right….

One correction my friend, I didn't say the LP was "shit", I said it is a mess (right now). The only thing that's keeping from turning to "shit" is Angela McCardle and the other Mises Caucus members still hanging in there. The (only) bright spot this cycle was the fact that Angela was able to get Donald Trump, Vivek Ramaswamy and RFK Jr. to speak at the LP Convention, that was awesome, President Trump gave a good speech in front of a hostile audience to boot and then actually LISTENED and responded to libertarian concerns, it's a part of the reason President Trump earned my vote this election.

I really don't know if the LP will be back to any relevance in the future, right now it's not looking too good as some of the best people are abandoning it or ready to.

Just wanted to clarify that.

 

[BrokeLoser]

One correction my friend, I didn't say the LP was "shit", I said it is a mess (right now). The only thing that's keeping from turning to "shit" is Angela McCardle and the other Mises Caucus members still hanging in there. The (only) bright spot this cycle was the fact that Angela was able to get Donald Trump, Vivek Ramaswamy and RFK Jr. to speak at the LP Convention, that was awesome, President Trump gave a good speech in front of a hostile audience to boot and then actually LISTENED and responded to libertarian concerns, it's a part of the reason President Trump earned my vote this election.

I really don't know if the LP will be back to any relevance in the future, right now it's not looking too good as some of the best people are abandoning it or ready to.

Just wanted to clarify that.

I’d say a party that trots out Chase Oliver as their #1 guy, that garners .38% of the vote against two candidates that America hates is pretty much shit…but whatever.
With policy like this I suspect they’ll always be shit…America is done with Mexico’s people.