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Sorry pushed the wrong button. BUT lies and half truths avail us nothing.
Both party's play party over country, both party's allow greed to rule.
When They Say "Democracy," They Don't Mean "Democracy"
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Both party's play party over country, both party's allow greed to rule.
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There is basically no democracy in the US. Neither side wants democracy.
When They Say "Democracy," They Don't Mean "Democracy"
"Imagine if the US and EU were still aligned on the censorship-by-proxy strategy. Few people realize how close we were to global totalitarianism."
— Michael Shellenberger8 Dec 2025 ~~ By James Howard Kunstler
When They Say "Democracy," They Don't Mean "Democracy"
"Imagine if the US and EU were still aligned on the censorship-by-proxy strategy. Few people realize how close we were to global totalitarianism." —Michael Shellenbergerwww.kunstler.com
Western Civ is choking itself to death with lawfare in the name of “democracy.” If you think just a little bit past the sale, you will realize that few will say what they mean by “democracy,” including the most ardent “democracy” cultists. What it supposedly means is legal outcomes that the political left wants, not what the law, or the truth, or justice requires.
On the surface, the left pretends to want outcomes that favor their roster of designated victim groups: women, dark-skinned people, and sexual outliers, the familiar cast of characters with its tiresome scripts. But that’s not what they really want. They don’t really care about the “marginalized.” What they really want is power. The “marginalized” are just their clients and shock troops. They want to push everybody around, tell them how to live, and what to think, including the marginalized. If society has to get wrecked in the process, that’s okay — that will just make it easier to “build back better” to their advantage, or so their operating algorithm dictates. The left does not think past its own algorithms.
The “democracy” cultists are foremost against freedom of speech, because speech is what distinguishes human beings among the rest of the animal kingdom, and if you allow it, human beings are liable to develop ideas — ideas being the product of language — and especially ideas that make the “democracy” cultists uncomfortable. For instance, the idea that the “democracy” cultists don’t deserve the power they crave because they are dishonest, unscrupulous, and sadistic. Can’t have people thinking that, or saying it out-loud.
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When Mr. Trump miraculously survived manifold attempts to stuff him in prison via lawfare and then, attempted murder, and managed to get re-elected, he put an end to the censorship shenanigans in government. That, in turn, became inconvenient to the “democracy” cultists in Europe who were, apparently, not busy enough destroying their own countries’ cultures and their economies. They put extra effort into suppressing free expression among their citizen-subjects: serious jail time for mean texts and mere casual statements on the street.
Now they are coming after the international speech platform “X,” liberated by Elon Musk three years ago at a $44-billion price. The European Commission, a body of unelected bureaucrats under the EU, created a so-called Digital Services Act to deal with the threat of free speech. After a two-year-investigation, the commission has leveled a $140-million fine against “X” for a series of specious offenses, such as not meaningfully verifying account authenticity [blue check marks] eroding trust in verified content. Mr. Musk objected, naturally. Veep JD Vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio, called it an “attack on American tech.” It’s more than that, of course. It’s an effort to wreck the company, which would eliminate the chief remaining public arena for free speech and genuine news worldwide.
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We have enough trouble with the “democracy” cult here at home. The Norm Eisen Axis-of-Evil has enjoyed endless “funding” from the dark money spigots of George Soros, British hedge fund billionaire Christopher Hohn, and Shanghai-based American billionaire Neville Roy Singham. Once the money-flows are turned off, you will see a lot less nuisance litigation aimed at perverting the rule of law and destroying the country. Norm Eisen and his colleagues operate out of a set of foundations and NGOs, chiefly Brookings and the outfit Eisen founded called the States United Democracy Center. They are mere money-launderers.
The federal judiciary is the “democracy” cult’s remaining praetorian guard. The federal judges, especially the Obama and Biden appointed ones, are making sure that Lawfare ninjas won’t be prosecuted for any crimes. The two latest examples: James Comey, case dismissed on procedural issues (for now) on his charge of lying to Congress. And New York AG Leticia James, let off the hook on a mortgage fraud rap by a federal grand jury in the Eastern District of Virginia, probably a case of “jury nullification” and probably due to race — after the fashion of OJ Simpson skating on murder in 1995.
Unfortunately, the remedy of impeaching federal judges is unavailable due to the 60-vote majority required for removal in the Senate.
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The Democrat party calling itself the Democratic party when there is nothing Democratic about it. Democrats define "Democracy" like The German “Democratic” Republic, or the “Democratic” Peoples Republic of North Korea.
Historically, Democracy meant government by consent, rooted in individual rights, free expression, and constitutional limits. This tradition—shaped by thinkers like John Locke, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and Alexis de Tocqueville—emphasized liberty, not state control.
But has begun to shift the meaning. In their rhetoric, “democracy” now implying economic equality enforced by the state, majoritarian rule unconstrained by constitutional checks and government as provider of outcomes, not protector of rights.
This Democrat Socialists of America (DSA) Marxist redefinition aligns more closely with collectivist systems than with classical liberal democracy. It echoes the logic of Rousseau’s “general will”, where dissent becomes illegitimate if it opposes the collective vision.
To DSA Progressive Elitist Marxists, Democracy means “Rule by the Democrats”.
That is rule by the elites who control the masses of plebeians
I've been pushing for Proportional Representation on this site since 2014. Maybe three or four people have said "yeah, might be a good idea".
I wonder if the OP cares about PR. Or whether the OP is just using this as a way of attacking the Democrats, hoping people will hate the Democrats.
The FPTP system leads to NEGATIVE politics. Tell people to hate the other side. And that's the sort of "democracy" the OP is engaging in.
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Thanks
M14 Shooter
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Well, yeah.
Its all they do.
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As Justice Kavanaugh said, paraphrased, "the deep state is the 4th branch of government answering to no one, democracy requires accountability to the voters". Regarding the president's authority to dismiss agency heads like the FTC's Rebecca Slaughter.
'Democracy' to the left means the left gets everything they want and everybody else is racist, sexist, homophobic, etc. etc. etc. and must either be silenced or neutered or destroyed or imprisoned.
'Voting' to the left means an illusion of 'democracy' as they allow non citizens to vote and/or manufacture as many ballots as they need to achieve power. Anything that would ensure that only legal citizens vote is 'an existential threat to our democracy' or suppression of the vote or whatever the ridiculous assigned talking point of the day might be.
The OP is spot on that the goal is totalitarianism controlled by the left. Those who think that should happen, other than the very few who will actually be in control, will hate it if it does happen. But they are too brainwashed, mentally compromised, ignorant, controlled by hate to know that so are useful idiots for those who intend to be in charge.
That goes also for those totally consumed by their TDS or anti-government mentality, and the obsessed one or two issue people on the right.
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Supreme Court is not accountable to the voters
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They equate "democracy" to their agenda, and if you oppose their agenda, you are thwarting democracy.
All they do is lie.
kyzr
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True, but their rulings are all about strictly interpreting the U.S. Constitution which is supposed to be apolitical.
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Supreme Court is not even responsible for their own ethical standards and conflicts of interest
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Neither is the Fed, nor USAID, nor any number of agencies before Trump lowered the boom.
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Supreme Court is a branch of government and has no accountability
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Who exactly would they be "accountable" to? Political hacks?
No one else has the authority or expertise to officially interpret the Constitution.
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But their individual conduct and impartiality are suspect.
Other branches are subject to impeachment and the vote. Supreme Court Justices are above the law
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Funny how Boozer missed that
Sure they do. They can be impeached and removed. Left-wing asshurt isn't an impeachable offense, however.
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When was the last time a SC Justice was impeached and for what?
If Thomas didn’t get impeached… none of them can be
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Your belief, devoid of fact and reason, he did something improper is not an impeachable offense.
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