When is an embryo/fetus a human life?

Because we all know that letting the majority decide on when the rights of the weakest, voiceless, and most vulerable should begin is the only way to have justice on this issue!

Right?

Fascists?
Your presuming to speak for microscopic, mindless entities does not empower you to dictate to everyone else.
 
Germinated or otherwise, you are not going to use your politicians and bureaucrats to intimidate the majority of Americans who disagree with you. Most recognize that a microscopic mindless mass of cells is not a person.


That's a battle you're already lost in most States.

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As obvious as when the left tried to coerce millions into injecting their bodies with an unproven, untested mRNA vaccine drug?


Your stupid polls aside, the issue is whether abortion is murder, and it obviously is as it takes the life of a human being. Therefore, people should be taught to avoid unwanted pregnancies, and offered abortion as the very last resort, and there needs to be set laws and limits on how abortion is used and paid for.
Your fanaticism aside. Americans support reproductive freedom - women making personal decisions for themselves, in consultation with loved ones and medical and spiritual advisers whom they trust, rather than allow your impersonal politicians and bureaucrats to dictate to everyone, based upon the notion that microscopic mindless entities are people.
 
Your stupid polls aside, the issue is whether abortion is murder, and it obviously is as it takes the life of a human being. Therefore, people should be taught to avoid unwanted pregnancies, and offered abortion as the very last resort, and there needs to be set laws and limits on how abortion is used and paid for.

From a legal standpoint, abortion is not currently considered murder.

From a biological standpoint, it is most certainly a homicide, at any stage.
 
Your presuming to speak for microscopic, mindless entities does not empower you to dictate to everyone else.
Your characterization does not my reality, make.


A dictator wouldn't try to reason with you and bring you to an understanding of the biological facts.

And also, an appreciation for the significance of those facts.
 
Your fanaticism aside.
Morality and reverence for life is now "fanatical" to you? You might want to go have a look in the mirror, freak.

Americans support reproductive freedom -
I support reproductive freedom too---- Every adult age woman is free to have sex or not, avoid pregnancy or not, just don't expect me to pay for it, and you just might be charged with murder, or at the very least, be forced to pay for it, then get your tubes tied after the 2nd abortion.

women making personal decisions for themselves,
If only it were only that, but instead, they are making person life and death decisions for another.

rather than allow your impersonal politicians and bureaucrats to dictate to everyone,
You mean like you allowed them to dictate vaccines during Covid? Or how they dictate your healthcare?

based upon the notion that microscopic mindless entities are people.
A woman does not yet even know she is pregnant during the first few weeks when the zygote is still "microscopic." By the time you suspect you are pregnant and get a test, a woman is probably already in her 6th-12th week, and the fetus is now the size of a citrus and most things in a person by then are already developed.
 
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Your characterization does not my reality, make.


A dictator wouldn't try to reason with you and bring you to an understanding of the biological facts.

And also, an appreciation for the significance of those facts.
Wallow in your extremist notions.

Americans will not let your authoritarian politicians and bureaucrats dictate to everyone,
 
Morality and reverence for life is now "fanatical" to you? You might want to go have a look in the mirror, freak.


I support reproductive freedom too---- Every adult age woman is free to have sex or not, avoid pregnancy or not, just don't expect me to pay for it, and you just might be charged with murder, or at the very least, be forced to pay for it, then get your tubes tied after the 2nd abortion.


If only it were only that, but instead, they are making person life and death decisions for another.


You mean like you allowed them to dictate vaccines during Covid? Or how they dictate your healthcare?


A woman does not yet even know she is pregnant during the first few weeks when the zygote is still "microscopic." By the time you suspect you are pregnant and get a test, a woman is probably already in her 6th-12th week, and the fetus is now the size of a citrus and most things in a person by them are already developed.
Your fanaticism is tedious.

The U.S. will not become Nicaragua to make you happy.
 
From a legal standpoint, abortion is not currently considered murder.

Well then, we have a problem. If I shot and kill a pregnant woman, I will be charged with a double homicide, which stands at odds with a woman having a solitary unfettered right to abort/kill her own child, irregardless of the circumstances or desires of the father.

I wonder what a leftist's view would be if a pregnant mother WANTED to have her child but the father did not and ordered the abortion and the woman had to have the abortion against her wishes?

I just don't get this "My body My right" mentality that accords such power to women over an act she can control (getting pregnant) yet would FORCE her to get a dangerous vaccine for something she had no control over (a virus).
 
From a legal standpoint, abortion is not currently considered murder.

From a biological standpoint, it is most certainly a homicide, at any stage.

Your post reminded me of an argument I had with Grok on this subject and I would like to get your thoughts on the exchange, if you have time.

It's kind of wordy.

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Your fanaticism is tedious.

I love how the Left's every pathetic argument always comes down to name calling. Now just revering life is fanatical.

You put more value in protecting illegal, undocumented invading illegals than you do protecting the innocent.

Are you sure it isn't due to my racism, xenophobia, brainwashing, and misogyny??? :lmao:
 
" How Chickens Crossed The Road Without Heads "

* Anthropocentric Psychopaths Remain Uneducated And Mentally Retarded *


There is a difference between an autonomic nervous system and a cerebral cortex , while sentience - a cognizant awareness of physical stimulus requires thalamocortial spindles to bridge the thalamus ( autonomic nervous systems ) and cortex ( higher order thinking ) , which do not begin to develop any earlier than 23 weeks and onset of sentience is estimated between 36 to 39 weeks based on electroencephalogram .

The natural viability and sentience arguments are rhetorical because women do not seek without cause abortions at those stages of development , while the sanctimonious , sacrosanct , psychopathic , freak farmer fanatics demand that others deliver freaks or risk their fertility and health for the repugnant arrogance of uninvolved apex predators damned dirty apes .



Actually we know for a fact women do seek late term elective abortions, I can think of one doctor that is in jail for performing them.

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And calling that life anything but life, is simply trying to minimize the fact that you are committing murder.
Do you believe women have the same “divine rights“ as men?

When did women get the right to vote, thus taking part in their “consent to be governed“ ?

Is Christianity,a male dominated institution to this day?



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Actually we know for a fact women do seek late term elective abortions, I can think of one doctor that is in jail for performing them.

Better/more harvested organs that way.
 
Your fanaticism aside. Americans support reproductive freedom - women making personal decisions for themselves, in consultation with loved ones and medical and spiritual advisers whom they trust, rather than allow your impersonal politicians and bureaucrats to dictate to everyone, based upon the notion that microscopic mindless entities are people.
In your worldview, do children have a right to the equal protection of our laws?

In your worldview, do children's rights begin when the child's life begins, or only at some point where the denial of the child's rights somehow affects YOU?
 
Your presuming to speak for microscopic, mindless entities does not empower you to dictate to everyone else.
Zygote are human beings as a matter of biology. Whether or not that life can be taken from them is a legal decision. Nothing can take their humanity. You are of the opinion that these human lives must have that humanity stripped away before they can be killed. Why? Is the idea of killing a human that distasteful? Get over it.
 
Cardiac activity is not a heartbeat.

"But according to experts, the term “fetal heartbeat” is misleading and medically inaccurate.

“While the heart does begin to develop at around six weeks, at this point the heart as we know it does not yet exist,” said Dr. Ian Fraser Golding, a pediatric and fetal cardiologist at Rady Children’s Hospital San Diego.

Instead, at six weeks, the embryo will develop a tube that generates sporadic electrical impulses that eventually coordinate into rhythmic pulses, he said. "



And the center of that electrical activity is, WHERE?

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