When is an embryo/fetus a human life?

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An infant is not a teenager. It will develop into one. A teenager is not an adult. It will develop into one. All are stages of growth.

you failed to make a distinction between the stages of growth that are during gestation and after gestation

Prior to birth gestation is a private matter going on inside of a human being’s body. Society has no right to make a public issue out of pregnancy.

There is no legal or societal harm caused when a woman deliberately terminates her own pregnancy

There is nothing there is nothing. There is nothing to say why the public and the government should be involved. Other to ensure that she can get a safe medical procedure by the licensed medical professionals and or pharmaceuticals if she decides she does not want to give birth to a new human being.

Until you can prove harm, you have no business invading the privacy of another human being, who is doing no harm to you or to society whatsoever
 
When does abortion become infanticide?
Never. Infanticide involves the mother killing her infant (up to a year) after birth. If in rare circumstances an infant is born alive as the result of an attempted abortion, it would be murder if the Doctor or nurse killed the infant after a live birth.

PUBLIC LAW 107-207—AUG. 5, 2002

An Act To protect infants who are born alive.

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE. This Act may be cited as the "Bom-Alive Infants ProtectionlUSClnote. Act of 2002".SEC. 2. DEFINITION OF BORN-ALIVE INFANT

 
Aren't you pushing for laws that suppress reproductive freedom when you falsely claim that a microscopic, mindless mass of cells is a person?
I havent made those points. My point is abortion should be legal and we need guidelines. A time for abortion for any reason defined by the mother who owns the fetus as her property. 16 weeks works for me. Then a specific set of circumstances.
 
My point is abortion should be legal and we need guidelines.

You do not stand up for women so your point is hollow? All women in the United States had legal protection with guidelines under Roe versus Wade. The Republican Party took that down and you know if you ever voted for them for the past 50 years if they were trying to take it down on religious grounds. It’s not on scientific grounds it’s not on Moral grounds. It’s not on anything but religious grounds because the Catholic Church and other Christian denominations believe that protected life, the sanctity of life begins at conception. That’s fine if they believe that, but keep it within their religion not for society at large.

But it’s disgusting for people who say they want abortion to be legal and then turn around and vote for the Republican Party religious zealot.

It’s got to stop

Just heard in Missouri a deep red state last November the people voted to make abortion a part of their constitution and legal. Now the Republican legislators are trying to take that away

I hope they fail You should too. But all I see on your other post is Trump is great. Trump is good. Trump is wonderful.

That’s absurd
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Never. Infanticide involves the mother killing her infant (up to a year) after birth. If in rare circumstances an infant is born alive as the result of an attempted abortion, it would be murder if the Doctor or nurse killed the infant after a live birth.

PUBLIC LAW 107-207—AUG. 5, 2002

An Act To protect infants who are born alive.

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE. This Act may be cited as the "Bom-Alive Infants ProtectionlUSClnote. Act of 2002".SEC. 2. DEFINITION OF BORN-ALIVE INFANT

There are those who feel that post birth abortion should be legal until the child is self aware. To some it's two years old. Others would allow it until five years old.

Should self awareness be a criteria for life?
 
You do not stand up for women so your point is hollow? All women in the United States had legal protection with guidelines under Roe versus Wade. The Republican Party took that down and you know if you ever voted for them for the past 50 years if they were trying to take it down on religious grounds. It’s not on scientific grounds it’s not on Moral grounds. It’s not on anything but religious grounds because the Catholic Church and other Christian denominations believe that protected life, the sanctity of life begins at conception. That’s fine if they believe that, but keep it within their religion not for society at.

But it’s disgusting for people who say they want abortion to be legal and then turn around and vote for the Republican Party religious zealot.

It’s got to stop

Just heard in Missouri a deep red state last November the people voted to make abortion a part of their constitution and legal. Now the Republican legislators are trying to take that away

I hope they fail You should too. But all I see on your other post is Trump is great. Trump is good. Trump is wonderful.

That’s absurdView attachment 1141941
Roe was simply bad law.
 
Roe was simply bad law
According to the religious zealots that were focused on taking it down for over 50 years they got six Catholics on the Supreme Court who lied when they were approved in the Senate that they respected precedent . So we have six Catholic liars on the Supreme Court saying it was bad law I smell a rat
 
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Why exactly? Conception is not a public phenomenon. It takes place inside a developed human being‘s body. That human being has a right to privacy. Does she not? If a woman finds out, she has conceived and decides she does not want to give birth, what effect does that have on the public or specifically, your rights and your life and your well-being and pursuit of happiness?View attachment 1141864
What does any of that have to do with human life beginning at conception?
 
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you failed to make a distinction between the stages of growth that are during gestation and after gestation

Prior to birth gestation is a private matter going on inside of a human being’s body. Society has no right to make a public issue out of pregnancy.

There is no legal or societal harm caused when a woman deliberately terminates her own pregnancy

There is nothing there is nothing. There is nothing to say why the public and the government should be involved. Other to ensure that she can get a safe medical procedure by the licensed medical professionals and or pharmaceuticals if she decides she does not want to give birth to a new human being.

Until you can prove harm, you have no business invading the privacy of another human being, who is doing no harm to you or to society whatsoever
Again, you are confusing legal opinion with scientific and biological fact. Nothing you have said removes humanity from the unborn human. No argument makes it into something else. It's now about rights. That a woman has the right to terminate her pregnancy is unquestionable. That right does not change the biological fact that the fetus is a human being.
 
What does any of that have to do with human life beginning at conception?
Human life does begin a conception. I have never taken any exception to that. I’m pointing out that conception is a private matter going on inside of a human beings body who has certain rights to privacy. The government has no cause to interfere with a woman’s decision as to what she will do with her pregnancy because whichever decision she makes is no different than if she has a miscarriage, which is tragic for most women that have it.

Do you believe the government should invade woman’s privacy and tell her what to do with her pregnancy? That’s what it has to do with life beginning at conception. What do we the people and our government do about it?
 

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