When is an embryo/fetus a human life?

[j-mac]

Make sure the woman can afford the pregnancy/birth. That she can afford the time off. Day care. If she is in college that she can continue her education.

Just a start.

So, the baby can live as long as she has enough money? Shouldn’t the mom have thought of that before she started unzipping?

 

[pknopp]

So, the baby can live as long as she has enough money? Shouldn’t the mom have thought of that before she started unzipping?

Irrelevant. She is pregnant. You either want to see less abortions or you want to push your politics.

 

[g5000]

I'm not convinced that it is a human life from the moment of conception (given that it doesn't have a brain, for example), but at some point during pregnancy, I believe it qualifies as a human life.

If people are merely arguing that it is a "potential life" from the moment of conception, then preventing a potential life from coming into existence obviously isn't the same as taking a life from existence. (If that was true, then if a person only has 2 children when they have the ability to have 5 means they should be charged with 3 counts of murder, and we know that is absurd).

Does anyone find it bizarre that you can be arrested for killing the fetus of an endangered species in the womb, but not for killing the fetus of a human in the womb?

 

[toobfreak]

note that punishment does not include the death penalty because a fetus is without constitutional protections

I'm not so sure. A fetus may not be a citizen, but a fetus is a human.

an individual must have removed a rite to life of another to remove their own , which a fetus does not have .

Of course a fetus has a life. It is living. The very act of abortion is to /REMOVE/ that rite of life.

The fetus being without constitutional protections is private property of the mother .

So a fetus is the mother's SLAVE? Didn't think that one through, didya?

 

[j-mac]

Irrelevant. She is pregnant. You either want to see less abortions or you want to push your politics.

I restated back to you what YOU wrote….and you run from it….I’d like a straight answer to my questions, please.

 

[pknopp]

I restated back to you what YOU wrote….and you run from it….I’d like a straight answer to my questions, please.

No you didn't. You simply ranted.

For some, yes, the baby can live if she could support it.

 

[toobfreak]

Its always human the question is when is it a person

Now you are dabbling in semantics. When is a fetus a person? A person is merely a synonym for a human. Do you know any persons who are not human? But a person is also context: usually when we say person, we mean an adult, or at least not a child.

Also, the word person is also analogous with PEOPLE, and in that context, you are not a person or people until after you are born. Even an infant in a stroller can be said to be "people."

All of which is not germane as to whether or not the unborn have rights as a human being, and the fact that I can be charged for the death of or murder of the fetus, proves that by law, a fetus is human, therefore, has human rights.

 

[schmidlap]

Projections noted.

Since I share the reasonable view of most Americans regarding reproductive freedom. I have no need to ""project" anything.

 

[dblack]

A dictator wouldn't try to reason with you and bring you to an understanding of the biological facts.

They might. And if people wouldn't see "reason", a dictator would force it on them anyway. Like you want to do.

 

[marvin martian]

Does anyone find it bizarre that you can be arrested for killing the fetus of an endangered species in the womb, but not for killing the fetus of a human in the womb?

I find it bizarre that you pretend to be pro-life, but vote for the most pro-abortion people in history.

 

[dblack]

I find it bizarre that you pretend to be pro-life, but vote for the most pro-abortion people in history.

Lol ... "sides"

 

[Chuz Life]

They might. And if people wouldn't see "reason", a dictator would force it on them anyway. Like you want to do.

Dictators who rule by presenting the best winning arguments to the SCOTUS, right?

Now you have to attack the SCOTUS too.

Which Im sure you will.

 

[dblack]

Dictators who rule by presenting the best winning arguments to the SCOTUS, right?

Now you have to attack the SCOTUS too.

Which Im sure you will.

Whatever. I'm not down with the **** police. Government has no business regulating procreation. MYOB.

 

[Chuz Life]

Whatever. I'm not down with the **** police. Government has no business regulating procreation. MYOB.

But I bet you do claim to be a defender or children and basic human rights.

 

[dblack]

But I bet you do claim to be a defender or children and basic human rights.

Gambling is a sin.

 

[Chuz Life]

Gambling is a sin.

Not religious here, so I get a free pass on that one.

 

[dblack]

Not religious here, so I get a free pass on that one.

Most statist liberals aren't.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Oh yes there is, and it matters greatly.

Why does it matter to Republican State governments that exist by the consent of the governed? Why should women who become pregnant give their consent to be governed by white male mostly Christian politicians who want to impose their morality about the beginning of personhood according to their religion on all women.

 

[Chuz Life]

Most statist liberals aren't.

What about name calling mudslingers?

 

[dblack]

What about name calling mudslingers?

Same.