When GeorgeForeman put down Joe Frasier 6 times in 2 rounds

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If Foreman hadn't been such a stupe - would haved defeated Ali


CLAY/Ali neverhad a freaking punch

 

[elvis]

If Foreman hadn't been such a stupe - would haved defeated Ali


CLAY/Ali neverhad a freaking punch

he didn't need one. there's more to boxing than a punch.

 

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If Foreman hadn't been such a stupe - would haved defeated Ali


CLAY/Ali neverhad a freaking punch

Joe Montana ran like a wounded goose......on acid.

There is more to boxing than a knockout punch.

Do you see the point?

 

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If Foreman hadn't been such a stupe - would haved defeated Ali

Woulda, coulda, shoulda. The fact is Ali owned George.

CLAY/Ali neverhad a freaking punch

Sure he didn't. Again, tell that to Liston ... or your boy George. He knocked both of them the fuck out.

 

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If Foreman hadn't been such a stupe - would haved defeated Ali


CLAY/Ali neverhad a freaking punch

he didn't need one. there's more to boxing than a punch.

He had plenty of punch, IMO.

 

[elvis]

If Foreman hadn't been such a stupe - would haved defeated Ali


CLAY/Ali neverhad a freaking punch

he didn't need one. there's more to boxing than a punch.

He had plenty of punch, IMO.

my point is he wasn't known for it the way Foreman and Tyson were. he was a poise fighter.

 

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he didn't need one. there's more to boxing than a punch.

He had plenty of punch, IMO.

my point is he wasn't known for it the way Foreman and Tyson were. he was a poise fighter.

Very true. He was known for being a master boxer with unworldly hand speed for a man his size and his punch took out some bad ass mofos ...

 

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Then -after Foreman - Ali struggles against the likes of Spinks...................................

 

[elvis]

Then -after Foreman - Ali struggles against the likes of Spinks...................................

struggled against him and then beat him.

lost to him and then beat him.

 

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Then -after Foreman - Ali struggles against the likes of Spinks...................................

..........................four years later at the age of 36 when Spinks was 25 and at his peak.

 

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he didn't need one. there's more to boxing than a punch.

He had plenty of punch, IMO.

my point is he wasn't known for it the way Foreman and Tyson were. he was a poise fighter.

Speed kills and it's almost always the punch you don't see that hurts you.

 

[elvis]

He had plenty of punch, IMO.

my point is he wasn't known for it the way Foreman and Tyson were. he was a poise fighter.

Speed kills and it's almost always the punch you don't see that hurts you.

yup

 

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Ali was the greatest heavyweight BOXER ever.

E V E R.

Anyone who argues otherwise simply doesn't understand the game, or can't get past the personality.

 

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If Clay "/Ali wasso great -why couldnt he defeatFrazier in 3 bouts - while Foreman knoknedSmokin Joe senseless???????????

 

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If Clay "/Ali wasso great -why couldnt he defeatFrazier in 3 bouts - while Foreman knoknedSmokin Joe senseless???????????

Does the expression "styles makes fights" mean anything to you?

And his record against Joe was 2-1 ... and he stopped him in Manilla.

 

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"I'll fight that fool in a telephone booth!" Is what Ali said when asked if the ring being a little smaller than regulation would be an advantage for Foreman.

Speed? Check.
Cat-like quickness? (Different than speed) Check.
Ring savvy? Check.
Endurance? Check.
Marketing? Check.
Knock your damned head off when ready? Check.

Ali, hands down.

 

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"I'll fight that fool in a telephone booth!" Is what Ali said when asked if the ring being a little smaller than regulation would be an advantage for Foreman.

Speed? Check.
Cat-like quickness? (Different than speed) Check.
Ring savvy? Check.
Endurance? Check.
Marketing? Check.
Knock your damned head off when ready? Check.

Ali, hands down.

Foreman was like a bully who gets punched in the nose for the first time. Like Tyson, once his invincibility was stripped away, he was just an average fighter

 

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Ali was the greatest heavyweight BOXER ever.

E V E R.

Anyone who argues otherwise simply doesn't understand the game, or can't get past the personality.

Ali brought just enough to the bout to win. He was often boring, clutching, pawing, clowning. When the round was coming to an end, he would throw a flurry of punches to take the round.

They said Liston would kill him....he humiliated Liston
They said Foreman would kill him....Ali played with him and knocked him out

Throw in real wars against Frazier and Ken Norton and you have a resume no other Heavyweight could match. Who did Dempsey defeat? Who did Louis defeat? Who did Marciano defeat?

 

[elvis]

Ali was the greatest heavyweight BOXER ever.

E V E R.

Anyone who argues otherwise simply doesn't understand the game, or can't get past the personality.

Ali brought just enough to the bout to win. He was often boring, clutching, pawing, clowning. When the round was coming to an end, he would throw a flurry of punches to take the round.

They said Liston would kill him....he humiliated Liston
They said Foreman would kill him....Ali played with him and knocked him out

Throw in real wars against Frazier and Ken Norton and you have a resume no other Heavyweight could match. Who did Dempsey defeat? Who did Louis defeat? Who did Marciano defeat?

Joe Louis.

 

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Even Ali admitted as much beforethe Foreman fight: George knocked him out - i couln't.

Know I am going to AMAZE the whole world.

Nobody believed him. I though Foreman would murder him.

Got to admire the guys chutzpah.