When do ICE agents start getting charged with murder?

[IM2]

Goode was lawfully shot Pretti was not

There were no lawful shootings in Minnesota.

 

[Stann]

It isnt about deserving.

A guy with his eyes on his cell steps into the street in front of a moving truck doesn't deserve to die, but that may be the natural consequence.

Blaming the driver would be silly.

The truck driver in your scenario doesn't intentionally try to kill you.

 

[80zephyr]

I agree it was a stupid move on his part but did he deserve to die for that ? And he never even reached for it. Perhaps it was a automatic reflex to bring it. Here in Nebraska we are also a right to carry state and a resident my town made the mistake of carrying his to the courthouse to renew his car liscence. It was in the newspaper , the fourth se went into shut down mode. He still had to pay a hefty fine. No jail the time was involved. He simply forgot he had it on him. Perhaps that's what Pretti did. Looks like we will.never know the truth in this obvious cover-up.

A series of mistakes led to the shooting. It wasn't malicious.

 

[Seymour Flops]

The truck driver in your scenario doesn't intentionally try to kill you.

I see analogies confuse you. How about this, then:

An armed man with a recent history of violence carrying a firearm becomes enraged and charges at police officers during a riot. He needs - and deserves - treatment for mental illness but death may be the natural consequence.

A mentally defective woman drives her vehicle into a law enforcement officer at the command of her Svengali-like lover. She deserves to be cared for in a group home with the lover under a restraining order to stay away, but death may be the natural consequence.

You thought it was kewl that a Capitol Police officer killed an unarmed woman coming through a window ten yards away, but a man with a gun attacking police officers close up is the victim?

Your hypocricy is too obvious for you to claim not to see it.

 

[Stann]

A series of mistakes led to the shooting. It wasn't malicious.

We are entitled to our ooinions BUT I believe a jury should be the final judge on that.

 

[Stann]

I see analogies confuse you. How about this, then:

An armed man with a recent history of violence carrying a firearm becomes enraged and charges at police officers during a riot. He needs - and deserves - treatment for mental illness but death may be the natural consequence.

A mentally defective woman drives her vehicle into a law enforcement officer at the command of her Svengali-like lover. She deserves to be cared for in a group home with the lover under a restraining order to stay away, but death may be the natural consequence.

You thought it was kewl that a Capitol Police officer killed an unarmed woman coming through a window ten yards away, but a man with a gun attacking police officers close up is the victim?

Your hypocricy is too obvious for you to claim not to see it.

You are entitled to.your opinion and so am I. No need to be disrespectful. This administration is the most corrupt and hypocritical that we've ever had.

 

[Hafar1014]

There were no lawful shootings in Minnesota.

The Goode shooting was within use of deadly force laws. She created an imminent threat for serious bodily injury or death with a 4000 pound car.

Pretti created no such threat and deadly force wasnt justified

 

[Stann]

The Goode shooting was within use of deadly force laws. She created an imminent threat for serious bodily injury or death with a 4000 pound car.

Pretti created no such threat and deadly force wasnt justified

Again all this best decided in a court of law. You have your opinion that's all.

 

[Seymour Flops]

You are entitled to.your opinion and so am I. No need to be disrespectful.

True. Apologies.

This administration is the most corrupt and hypocritical that we've ever had.

Disagree.

We just got past an administration in which decisions were made by a committee that the duly elected president did not have enough cognitive autonomy to even participate in meaningfully.

The administration lied to the american people every single day about that.That the Party and the partisan news media deliberately went along with it until backed into a corner by the failed debate only adds to the corruption.

 

[Stann]

True. Apologies.

Disagree.

We just got past an administration in which decisions were made by a committee that the duly elected president did not have enough cognitive autonomy to even participate in meaningfully.

The administration lied to the american people every single day about that.That the Party and the partisan news media deliberately went along with it until backed into a corner by the failed debate only adds to the corruption.

I never questioned the integrity of ICE before. I never questioned the integrity of the military before. I never questioned the fairness and political neutrality of the courts before. The most important thing I question is the truthfulness of them sarministration. It has infected everything else. The list goes on and on. That is why I disagree with you. Have a nice day. I plan on it.

 

[Dragonlady]

/----/ Who brings a gun to an ICE protest? He was looking for trouble and found it. A week earlier he was fighting agents and kicking their patrol car.

Someone who believes in the Ssecond Aamendment. Someone who believes they have something to fear from a tyrannical government.

He was fighting agents and kicking their patrol car. He wasn’t brandishing his gun or threatening them? By what right can they kill him? You can’t just sentence someone to die because they oppose what you’re doing and you don’t like how they were opposing you.

If anything, that shows that he wasn’t a danger to, since he clearly carries a gun and didn’t use it.

 

[Seymour Flops]

I never questioned the integrity of ICE before. I never questioned the integrity of the military before.

You are being told to question them by people who are lying to you. these are people who are perfectly happy to sacrifice low level ICE officers and military for their own political gain.

Ice officers like other law enforcement officers, are risking their lives every day to protect americans by enforcing the law.

Have any of the ice officers filling in at airports FoR the TSA agents that democrats refuse to pay murdered families as democrats were predicting?

No. They have not killed anyone at all at the airports. Because no rioters have been sent to attack them at the airports. ICE agents have a right to defend themselves when attacked, no matter how mad people are that the republicans did not pass the "bipartisan" five thousand illegals get amnesty per day bill.

I never questioned the fairness and political neutrality of the courts before.

i am surprised you questioned them now. the courts continue to be the last resort for democrats.Who cannot get their policies passed through the democratic process.

Which courts do you now say our biased the other way?

The most important thing I question is the truthfulness of them sarministration.

Was the biden administration truthful about biden's cognitive autonomy?

It has infected everything else. The list goes on and on. That is why I disagree with you. Have a nice day. I plan on it.

Well, I hope you have a better day, if I can say that.

 

[Dragonlady]

True. Apologies.

Disagree.

We just got past an administration in which decisions were made by a committee that the duly elected president did not have enough cognitive autonomy to even participate in meaningfully.

The administration lied to the american people every single day about that.That the Party and the partisan news media deliberately went along with it until backed into a corner by the failed debate only adds to the corruption.

No, that’s just a flat out lie. Biden may have tired early, but he was in no way is cognitively diminished as Donald Trump clearly is. He could still speak in full sentences, and he wasn’t posting pictures of himself as Jesus Christ, while he bombed the hell out of Iran, for no reason.

Biden wasn’t picking fights with the pope and acting like a lunatic in Public. Trump is an embarrassment to himself into your entire nation.

 

[Stann]

You are being told to question them by people who are lying to you. these are people who are perfectly happy to sacrifice low level ICE officers and military for their own political gain.

Ice officers like other law enforcement officers, are risking their lives every day to protect americans by enforcing the law.

Have any of the ice officers filling in at airports FoR the TSA agents that democrats refuse to pay murdered families as democrats were predicting?

No. They have not killed anyone at all at the airports. Because no rioters have been sent to attack them at the airports. ICE agents have a right to defend themselves when attacked, no matter how mad people are that the republicans did not pass the "bipartisan" five thousand illegals get amnesty per day bill.


i am surprised you questioned them now. the courts continue to be the last resort for democrats.Who cannot get their policies passed through the democratic process.

Which courts do you now say our biased the other way?

Was the biden administration truthful about biden's cognitive autonomy?

Well, I hope you have a better day, if I can say that.

OMG , I know what I saw. No one is making up my mind for me. I am not like you.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Biden wasn’t picking fights with the pope and acting like a lunatic in Public. Trump is an embarrassment to himself into your entire nation.

The Pope picked a fight with Donald Trump. He is an american and he should have known that he can't just spout off about american politics and say that nobody is allowed to respond.

Do you believe that the pope is the living representative of god on earth? if not, he picks fights at his own peril.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Someone who believes in the Ssecond Aamendment. Someone who believes they have something to fear from a tyrannical government.

He was fighting agents and kicking their patrol car. He wasn’t brandishing his gun or threatening them? By what right can they kill him? You can’t just sentence someone to die because they oppose what you’re doing and you don’t like how they were opposing you.

If anything, that shows that he wasn’t a danger to, since he clearly carries a gun and didn’t use it.

/---/ I'm a lifetime member of the NRA and a proud gun owner. And no matter what the protest was about, I'd never be so stupid as to bring a gun to confront federal agents.