When do ICE agents start getting charged with false arrest and excessive use of force?

[berg80]

I really don't care what someone who's running for office wants to try and justify their action for publicity.

I care that ICE is creating a spectacle in their attempts to arrest people in the country illegally in order to discourage those who are seeking to ensure the regime obeys the law. You know......cuz to date it has displayed a consistent inability or unwillingness to do so.

BTW, just wanted to say I appreciate the civility and rigor with which you approach your disagreement with me. You are unique among trumples in that respect.

 

[Rawley]

I invite you to listen to the interview with Lander for some perspective.

I did. The guy is a stooge that impeded law enforcement to get his 15 minutes. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Truly simple as that.

 

[Rawley]

I care that ICE is creating a spectacle in their attempts to arrest people in the country illegally in order to discourage those who are seeking to ensure the regime obeys the law. You know......cuz to date it has displayed a consistent inability or unwillingness to do so.

What laws did they break?

 

[PeanutGallery]

Because Obama focused on deporting immigrants who were criminals and those who had just been caught crossing the border. Not people who had been hear for years who have jobs and possibly kids in school who are US citizens. From AI.........

Expedited removal is a streamlined process where certain noncitizens can be deported from the United States without a full hearing before an immigration judge. This procedure, established by the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 (IIRIRA), is typically used for those apprehended near the border or at ports of entry who lack proper documentation or are found to have misrepresented themselves.

Typically ... key word ... so in your mind, Trump can't do that because they've been here for a minute so they're entitled to full due process in front of a judge? BTW, the law got changed on 1/21/25. It's now up to two years in the country and there's no geographic restriction on where a person can be arrested.

You may feel that way, but from the election that happened back in November, you're part of the minority who thinks that. You're free to think that. People who voted knew going in that Trump was going to deport illegal immigrants. So, I don't see why people are so surprised that he's actually going about that.

 

[dblack]

I call that “virtue signaling”.

Sometimes it's phony, yup. But some people actually care.

 

[PeanutGallery]

I care that ICE is creating a spectacle in their attempts to arrest people in the country illegally in order to discourage those who are seeking to ensure the regime obeys the law. You know......cuz to date it has displayed a consistent inability or unwillingness to do so.

BTW, just wanted to say I appreciate the civility and rigor with which you approach your disagreement with me. You are unique among trumples in that respect.

My big thing is this. Your side has said that no one's above the law ... including former presidents. So, I'm lost as to why when democrat politicians do these political stunts that violate the law, why they should be exempt. There was plenty of civil disobedience during the Civil Rights movement. The BIG difference I see is that during the 60s, they went and did whatever and were 100% willing to suffer the consequence for their actions. These "cosplaying civil rights" democrats act like they want to stand up for something, but cry to the media when it's time for accountability. That's why I can't take them seriously. This looks like it's more for viral shares and clicks than standing on business.

 

[Lesh]

Typically ... key word ... so in your mind, Trump can't do that because they've been here for a minute so they're entitled to full due process in front of a judge? BTW, the law got changed on 1/21/25. It's now up to two years in the country and there's no geographic restriction on where a person can be arrested.

You may feel that way, but from the election that happened back in November, you're part of the minority who thinks that. You're free to think that. People who voted knew going in that Trump was going to deport illegal immigrants. So, I don't see why people are so surprised that he's actually going about that.

My big thing is this. Your side has said that no one's above the law ... including former presidents. So, I'm lost as to why when democrat politicians do these political stunts that violate the law, why they should be exempt. There was plenty of civil disobedience during the Civil Rights movement. The BIG difference I see is that during the 60s, they went and did whatever and were 100% willing to suffer the consequence for their actions. These "cosplaying civil rights" democrats act like they want to stand up for something, but cry to the media when it's time for accountability. That's why I can't take them seriously. This looks like it's more for viral shares and clicks than standing on business.

Oh bullshit

It’s amazing how people “remember” things

I guess you forgot the Chicago Seven and much more

 

[berg80]

Typically ... key word ... so in your mind, Trump can't do that because they've been here for a minute so they're entitled to full due process in front of a judge?

Didn't say that. But the manner in which the legal rights of immigrants have been routinely ignored by DHS, the DoJ, and the regime generally it should hardly be a surprise there are those who want to make sure the regime follows the letter of the law. I don't think the circumstances of the man ICE was arresting yesterday are public. Not that I'm aware of at least.

 

[Independent thinker]

NYC mayoral candidate Brad Lander arrested by ICE​

New York City Comptroller and Democratic mayoral candidate Brad Lander was arrested Tuesday by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents while he was escorting a defendant out of immigration court.

“While escorting a defendant out of immigration court at 26 Federal Plaza, Brad was taken by masked agents and detained by ICE,” Lander’s wife, Meg Barnette, wrote on X.

“This is still developing, and our team is monitoring the situation closely,” Barnette wrote.

Video of the incident posted online showed Lander outside a courtroom at the city’s main immigration court when he is approached by officers, including some wearing masks.

Lander repeatedly asked the officers to show him a judicial warrant before he is handcuffed, per the video posted by Barnette.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/17/brad-lander-ice-mayoral-comptroller.html

These guys have found a formula that's working for them. Just as it did when Rep. LaMonica McIver was charged with assault after she was prevented from exercising her legal right to inspect an ICE facility.

They cause a ruckus in a public setting and then find a pretense to arrest an elected official who just happens to be a Dem. The message being sent is crystal clear. There's a word for it.......it's called intimidation. If you happen to be the comptroller of NYC and a mayoral candidate there, or a US Rep., or a US senator, prepare to be arrested, push against a wall, forced down to the floor, and handcuffed by trump's goon squad.

As Padilla eloquently put it, if this is what's happening to US senators in public view imagine what they're doing to lettuce pickers.

Congressional hearings are called for but the POT is running the show and they're all too afraid to show some courage and speak out or take action.

When was anyone falsely arrested, other than Trump?

 

[struth]

NYC mayoral candidate Brad Lander arrested by ICE​

New York City Comptroller and Democratic mayoral candidate Brad Lander was arrested Tuesday by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents while he was escorting a defendant out of immigration court.

“While escorting a defendant out of immigration court at 26 Federal Plaza, Brad was taken by masked agents and detained by ICE,” Lander’s wife, Meg Barnette, wrote on X.

“This is still developing, and our team is monitoring the situation closely,” Barnette wrote.

Video of the incident posted online showed Lander outside a courtroom at the city’s main immigration court when he is approached by officers, including some wearing masks.

Lander repeatedly asked the officers to show him a judicial warrant before he is handcuffed, per the video posted by Barnette.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/17/brad-lander-ice-mayoral-comptroller.html

These guys have found a formula that's working for them. Just as it did when Rep. LaMonica McIver was charged with assault after she was prevented from exercising her legal right to inspect an ICE facility.

They cause a ruckus in a public setting and then find a pretense to arrest an elected official who just happens to be a Dem. The message being sent is crystal clear. There's a word for it.......it's called intimidation. If you happen to be the comptroller of NYC and a mayoral candidate there, or a US Rep., or a US senator, prepare to be arrested, push against a wall, forced down to the floor, and handcuffed by trump's goon squad.

As Padilla eloquently put it, if this is what's happening to US senators in public view imagine what they're doing to lettuce pickers.

Congressional hearings are called for but the POT is running the show and they're all too afraid to show some courage and speak out or take action.

You are gonna need a better example, Lander's was properly handled and detained.

 

[berg80]

So, I'm lost as to why when democrat politicians do these political stunts that violate the law

I disagree these are stunts. Whether laws were broken is up to a jury to decide. I'm not lost as to why the regime desires these high profile confrontations. They're sending a message to everyone, including elected officials, don't question what we're doing. Be prepared to face excessive force and arrest if you do.

 

[Rawley]

Sometimes it's phony, yup. But some people actually care.

You think this phony asshole running for NYC mayor actually cares?

 

[Rawley]

I disagree these are stunts.

REally? Who do you think called the press to this hallway at the Immigration hearing? ICE or the clown running for office?

 

[Orangecat]

I care that ICE is creating a spectacle in their attempts to arrest people in the country illegally in order to discourage those who are seeking to ensure the regime obeys the law.

ICE isn't creating a spectacle. They're doing the job they were hired to do. The spectacle is created by those who resist their efforts, be they the actual illegals or the TDS politicians who feign concern.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Your desire to focus on Lander is understandable given the conduct of the ICE agents.

Doing their job?

 

[Kondor3]

NYC mayoral candidate Brad Lander arrested by ICE​

New York City Comptroller and Democratic mayoral candidate Brad Lander was arrested Tuesday by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents while he was escorting a defendant out of immigration court.

“While escorting a defendant out of immigration court at 26 Federal Plaza, Brad was taken by masked agents and detained by ICE,” Lander’s wife, Meg Barnette, wrote on X.

“This is still developing, and our team is monitoring the situation closely,” Barnette wrote.

Video of the incident posted online showed Lander outside a courtroom at the city’s main immigration court when he is approached by officers, including some wearing masks.

Lander repeatedly asked the officers to show him a judicial warrant before he is handcuffed, per the video posted by Barnette.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/17/brad-lander-ice-mayoral-comptroller.html

These guys have found a formula that's working for them. Just as it did when Rep. LaMonica McIver was charged with assault after she was prevented from exercising her legal right to inspect an ICE facility.

They cause a ruckus in a public setting and then find a pretense to arrest an elected official who just happens to be a Dem. The message being sent is crystal clear. There's a word for it.......it's called intimidation. If you happen to be the comptroller of NYC and a mayoral candidate there, or a US Rep., or a US senator, prepare to be arrested, push against a wall, forced down to the floor, and handcuffed by trump's goon squad.

As Padilla eloquently put it, if this is what's happening to US senators in public view imagine what they're doing to lettuce pickers.

Congressional hearings are called for but the POT is running the show and they're all too afraid to show some courage and speak out or take action.

You can sit on the sidelines and heckle all you want...

But if you lay hands on an ICE officer or otherwise obstruct his-or-her discharge of their office then you are subject to arrest...

Don't want to be arrested...

Don't do something stupid that GETS you arrested...

Don't want atypical force to be used to arrest you?

Stop resisting once the arrest sequence is underway.

Duh.

 

[Kondor3]

Liberals, even modern Democrats, have a tradition of standing up for people getting the dirty end of the stick. It's one of their few good qualities. That doesn't cover up their hypocrisy, but I'm not going to criticize them for at least trying to do the right thing.

Interfering with Federal law enforcement officers is NOT the "right thing".

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So, why aren't Trump's gestapo arresting these people?

See the gangs signature on that car?


Instead...............

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California 4th grader detained by ICE at immigration hearing​

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Jun 4, 2025 — On May 29, Martir Garcia Lara, a student at Torrance Elementary School, attended an immigration hearing in Houston, Texas, with his father.


(KTLA) – Concerned teachers and community members are rallying together to help a Southern California fourth grader after he was detained by immigration officials.

On May 29, Martir Garcia Lara, a student at Torrance Elementary School, attended an immigration hearing in Houston, Texas, with his father.

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Jun 6, 2025 — The fourth grader and his family were transferred to a processing center in Texas and are awaiting deportation to Honduras.

Keeping families together. That's good, right?

 

[Anathema]

Lander's detention and the false accusation made against him are part of an emerging scheme by the regime to intimidate anyone who tries to stand up for the rights of immigrants being mistreated by Generalissimo trump's government.

They’re immigrants… sub-human scum who don’t deserve any rights or consideration. Send them back where they came from post-haste.

 

[marvin martian]

ICE isn't creating a spectacle. They're doing the job they were hired to do. The spectacle is created by those who resist their efforts, be they the actual illegals or the TDS politicians who feign concern.

ICE is showing amazing restraint and respect, unlike, say, the Capitol police under Biden, who just murdered anyone who got in their way or scared them.