When covid19 cases surge

Should we all be able to sue the governors and other politicians who opened up too early?

Should people who go bankrupt and lose their homes and businesses be able to sue the governors and other politicians who opened up too late?

What about the "protestors" who pressured them to do so?

What about the "Nazi" snitches who pressured them to stay closed.

There are clear guidelines for reopening that are being ignored.

There are scientific studies contradicting the political and media narrative that are being ignored.

Can we sue the tRump *administration* for not enforcing them?

Can we sue the governors, the WHO, the CDC, and the so called "experts" for ignoring them?

How about for their generally inept response and attempts to dodge responsibility for it?

How about their inept response to the people who have been waiting seven weeks for an unemployment check ?

See how easy it is for me to also ask intellectually vapid and politically motivated questions?
 
McConnell has “insisted” that the next stimulus package will include legal immunity for businesses that open back up. He told Politico, “The next pandemic coming will be the lawsuit pandemic in the wake of this one. So we need to prevent that now when we have the opportunity to do it.” It’s important to understand what McConnell is proposing here: He’s saying that he will withhold aid money to state and local governments fighting the Covid-19 pandemic if the package does not include legal giveaways to protect businesses from the justice system.
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soon workers will have no rights if the republicans stay in power.

It's not the justice system that's being trampled here. It's workplace safety regulations and requirements.

Under current government legislation, employers have a legal obligation to ensure a safe working environment for their employees, and to ensure that workplaces don't contribute to the illness and injury of workers. If I don't follow these laws and my workers start getting sick or injured, I can sue them for my injuries. Additionally, the government can charge them for failing to meet workplace safety standards, and they would face hefty fines.

McConnell and Trump want to remove the workers' right to sue. The red states are saying if you're called back to work and you refuse to go, you'll lose your unemployment insurance. So if I work for a meat packing plant, which the President has ordered to remain open, and the plant refuses to follow the CDC recommendations for safe work spaces, I must go back to work or starve, and if I get sick because my employer decides he can't be bothered to spend the money or slow the line down to conform to standards, I'm shit outta luck.

We're already seeing that happening in the meat packing business. The plastic shields around workers, the PPE's, and slowing the line isn't happening and workers continue to get sick. The government is making it clear that keeping the meat processing plants open is more important than the lives of the workers. What can workers do to protect themselves if they lose the right to sue? Do you actually expect Trump to protect the workers - most of whom are immigrants, and many of whom are illegals?
 
McConnell has “insisted” that the next stimulus package will include legal immunity for businesses that open back up. He told Politico, “The next pandemic coming will be the lawsuit pandemic in the wake of this one. So we need to prevent that now when we have the opportunity to do it.” It’s important to understand what McConnell is proposing here: He’s saying that he will withhold aid money to state and local governments fighting the Covid-19 pandemic if the package does not include legal giveaways to protect businesses from the justice system.
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soon workers will have no rights if the republicans stay in power.

The federal or state govt shouldn't even be involved in this whole scam pandemic. If a business wants to open or close, it should be their decision. Likewise, if an individual wants to stay home or frequent a business establishment, it should be their decision. Screw the pathetic government. Why do libs always need to be led around by the nose. They look to govt because thats all they have. Its their religion.
It will be a blessing!

Look at it this way. Say there are 100 of us in the world. 25 are elderly and or sick and 75 of us are healthy adults.

Scenario #1
We all isolate. But one or two of us get the disease from going to a grocery store or Home Depot, etc. We then pass it on to one or two we see at a liquor store or again a grocery store and so on. The virus makes us a little ill but nothing major, like a common cold, as we are healthy adults. This progresses for months as we isolate so the virus has time to jump around and of course eventually gets to the 25 or so vulnerable.

Scenario #2

We isolate the 25, all 75 go out at once. We all get the virus. The virus has nowhere else to jump as all 75 have it and are building antibodies and immunity. Virus dies out in ~3 weeks and the other 25 can easily go out.

The key like with all viruses is to give it no where else to go. This is why the flu dies every spring. This is not because of warmer weather but because of herd immunity that kills it off naturally. Lockdowns are having the opposite effect. What you do is isolate the vulnerable and let the rest of us get it. This creates the often spoken about herd immunity and kills the virus.

www.discovermagazine.com

Is Herd Immunity Our Best Weapon Against COVID-19?
In the long run, it could protect us from future COVID-19 outbreaks. To get there, we need an effective vaccine.
www.discovermagazine.com
www.discovermagazine.com


Sweden will be a great case study


"In the long run, it could protect us from future COVID-19 outbreaks. To get there, we need an effective vaccine."

Are you not understanding your own links again? Vaccine, we aren't going to have an effective herd immunity that doesn't get a lot of people killed unless we have a vaccine. Your own sources tell you this.
 
McConnell has “insisted” that the next stimulus package will include legal immunity for businesses that open back up. He told Politico, “The next pandemic coming will be the lawsuit pandemic in the wake of this one. So we need to prevent that now when we have the opportunity to do it.” It’s important to understand what McConnell is proposing here: He’s saying that he will withhold aid money to state and local governments fighting the Covid-19 pandemic if the package does not include legal giveaways to protect businesses from the justice system.
--------------------------------
soon workers will have no rights if the republicans stay in power.

The federal or state govt shouldn't even be involved in this whole scam pandemic. If a business wants to open or close, it should be their decision. Likewise, if an individual wants to stay home or frequent a business establishment, it should be their decision. Screw the pathetic government. Why do libs always need to be led around by the nose. They look to govt because thats all they have. Its their religion.
It will be a blessing!

Look at it this way. Say there are 100 of us in the world. 25 are elderly and or sick and 75 of us are healthy adults.

Scenario #1
We all isolate. But one or two of us get the disease from going to a grocery store or Home Depot, etc. We then pass it on to one or two we see at a liquor store or again a grocery store and so on. The virus makes us a little ill but nothing major, like a common cold, as we are healthy adults. This progresses for months as we isolate so the virus has time to jump around and of course eventually gets to the 25 or so vulnerable.

Scenario #2

We isolate the 25, all 75 go out at once. We all get the virus. The virus has nowhere else to jump as all 75 have it and are building antibodies and immunity. Virus dies out in ~3 weeks and the other 25 can easily go out.

The key like with all viruses is to give it no where else to go. This is why the flu dies every spring. This is not because of warmer weather but because of herd immunity that kills it off naturally. Lockdowns are having the opposite effect. What you do is isolate the vulnerable and let the rest of us get it. This creates the often spoken about herd immunity and kills the virus.

www.discovermagazine.com

Is Herd Immunity Our Best Weapon Against COVID-19?
In the long run, it could protect us from future COVID-19 outbreaks. To get there, we need an effective vaccine.
www.discovermagazine.com
www.discovermagazine.com


Sweden will be a great case study


"In the long run, it could protect us from future COVID-19 outbreaks. To get there, we need an effective vaccine."

Are you not understanding your own links again? Vaccine, we aren't going to have an effective herd immunity that doesn't get a lot of people killed unless we have a vaccine. Your own sources tell you this.
Herd immunity is a vaccine, dummy. Act the same way.
 
McConnell has “insisted” that the next stimulus package will include legal immunity for businesses that open back up. He told Politico, “The next pandemic coming will be the lawsuit pandemic in the wake of this one. So we need to prevent that now when we have the opportunity to do it.” It’s important to understand what McConnell is proposing here: He’s saying that he will withhold aid money to state and local governments fighting the Covid-19 pandemic if the package does not include legal giveaways to protect businesses from the justice system.
--------------------------------
soon workers will have no rights if the republicans stay in power.

It's not the justice system that's being trampled here. It's workplace safety regulations and requirements.

Under current government legislation, employers have a legal obligation to ensure a safe working environment for their employees, and to ensure that workplaces don't contribute to the illness and injury of workers. If I don't follow these laws and my workers start getting sick or injured, I can sue them for my injuries. Additionally, the government can charge them for failing to meet workplace safety standards, and they would face hefty fines.

McConnell and Trump want to remove the workers' right to sue. The red states are saying if you're called back to work and you refuse to go, you'll lose your unemployment insurance. So if I work for a meat packing plant, which the President has ordered to remain open, and the plant refuses to follow the CDC recommendations for safe work spaces, I must go back to work or starve, and if I get sick because my employer decides he can't be bothered to spend the money or slow the line down to conform to standards, I'm shit outta luck.

We're already seeing that happening in the meat packing business. The plastic shields around workers, the PPE's, and slowing the line isn't happening and workers continue to get sick. The government is making it clear that keeping the meat processing plants open is more important than the lives of the workers. What can workers do to protect themselves if they lose the right to sue? Do you actually expect Trump to protect the workers - most of whom are immigrants, and many of whom are illegals?
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McConnell has “insisted” that the next stimulus package will include legal immunity for businesses that open back up. He told Politico, “The next pandemic coming will be the lawsuit pandemic in the wake of this one. So we need to prevent that now when we have the opportunity to do it.” It’s important to understand what McConnell is proposing here: He’s saying that he will withhold aid money to state and local governments fighting the Covid-19 pandemic if the package does not include legal giveaways to protect businesses from the justice system.
--------------------------------
soon workers will have no rights if the republicans stay in power.

The federal or state govt shouldn't even be involved in this whole scam pandemic. If a business wants to open or close, it should be their decision. Likewise, if an individual wants to stay home or frequent a business establishment, it should be their decision. Screw the pathetic government. Why do libs always need to be led around by the nose. They look to govt because thats all they have. Its their religion.
It will be a blessing!

Look at it this way. Say there are 100 of us in the world. 25 are elderly and or sick and 75 of us are healthy adults.

Scenario #1
We all isolate. But one or two of us get the disease from going to a grocery store or Home Depot, etc. We then pass it on to one or two we see at a liquor store or again a grocery store and so on. The virus makes us a little ill but nothing major, like a common cold, as we are healthy adults. This progresses for months as we isolate so the virus has time to jump around and of course eventually gets to the 25 or so vulnerable.

Scenario #2

We isolate the 25, all 75 go out at once. We all get the virus. The virus has nowhere else to jump as all 75 have it and are building antibodies and immunity. Virus dies out in ~3 weeks and the other 25 can easily go out.

The key like with all viruses is to give it no where else to go. This is why the flu dies every spring. This is not because of warmer weather but because of herd immunity that kills it off naturally. Lockdowns are having the opposite effect. What you do is isolate the vulnerable and let the rest of us get it. This creates the often spoken about herd immunity and kills the virus.

www.discovermagazine.com

Is Herd Immunity Our Best Weapon Against COVID-19?
In the long run, it could protect us from future COVID-19 outbreaks. To get there, we need an effective vaccine.
www.discovermagazine.com
www.discovermagazine.com


Sweden will be a great case study


"In the long run, it could protect us from future COVID-19 outbreaks. To get there, we need an effective vaccine."

Are you not understanding your own links again? Vaccine, we aren't going to have an effective herd immunity that doesn't get a lot of people killed unless we have a vaccine. Your own sources tell you this.
Herd immunity is a vaccine, dummy. Act the same way.

No, herd immunity is herd immunity. You literally just copy/pasted this

"Is Herd Immunity Our Best Weapon Against COVID-19?
In the long run, it could protect us from future COVID-19 outbreaks. To get there, we need an effective vaccine."


Clearly they are not saying herd immunity is a vaccine. You can get to herd immunity if you have vaccinated enough people but your link isn't saying to reach herd immunity by exposure.
 
The effective vaccine is exposure to the healthy who develop antibodies. When that virus comes along in the future most will be naturally immune and will not be infected nor will they transmit the virus. This isnt difficult. Seriously, why is this so difficult to understand?

How long do those antibodies last?

Also, that's not the definition of a vaccine.
 
Should we all be able to sue the governors and other politicians who opened up too early?

What about the "protestors" who pressured them to do so?

There are clear guidelines for reopening that are being ignored.

Can we sue the tRump *administration* for not enforcing them?

How about for their generally inept response and attempts to dodge responsibility for it?

How about you just live your life the way you see fit and let others do the same?
 
McConnell has “insisted” that the next stimulus package will include legal immunity for businesses that open back up. He told Politico, “The next pandemic coming will be the lawsuit pandemic in the wake of this one. So we need to prevent that now when we have the opportunity to do it.” It’s important to understand what McConnell is proposing here: He’s saying that he will withhold aid money to state and local governments fighting the Covid-19 pandemic if the package does not include legal giveaways to protect businesses from the justice system.
--------------------------------
soon workers will have no rights if the republicans stay in power.

The federal or state govt shouldn't even be involved in this whole scam pandemic. If a business wants to open or close, it should be their decision. Likewise, if an individual wants to stay home or frequent a business establishment, it should be their decision. Screw the pathetic government. Why do libs always need to be led around by the nose. They look to govt because thats all they have. Its their religion.
It will be a blessing!

Look at it this way. Say there are 100 of us in the world. 25 are elderly and or sick and 75 of us are healthy adults.

Scenario #1
We all isolate. But one or two of us get the disease from going to a grocery store or Home Depot, etc. We then pass it on to one or two we see at a liquor store or again a grocery store and so on. The virus makes us a little ill but nothing major, like a common cold, as we are healthy adults. This progresses for months as we isolate so the virus has time to jump around and of course eventually gets to the 25 or so vulnerable.

Scenario #2

We isolate the 25, all 75 go out at once. We all get the virus. The virus has nowhere else to jump as all 75 have it and are building antibodies and immunity. Virus dies out in ~3 weeks and the other 25 can easily go out.

The key like with all viruses is to give it no where else to go. This is why the flu dies every spring. This is not because of warmer weather but because of herd immunity that kills it off naturally. Lockdowns are having the opposite effect. What you do is isolate the vulnerable and let the rest of us get it. This creates the often spoken about herd immunity and kills the virus.

www.discovermagazine.com

Is Herd Immunity Our Best Weapon Against COVID-19?
In the long run, it could protect us from future COVID-19 outbreaks. To get there, we need an effective vaccine.
www.discovermagazine.com
www.discovermagazine.com


Sweden will be a great case study


"In the long run, it could protect us from future COVID-19 outbreaks. To get there, we need an effective vaccine."

Are you not understanding your own links again? Vaccine, we aren't going to have an effective herd immunity that doesn't get a lot of people killed unless we have a vaccine. Your own sources tell you this.
Herd immunity is a vaccine, dummy. Act the same way.

No, herd immunity is herd immunity. You literally just copy/pasted this

"Is Herd Immunity Our Best Weapon Against COVID-19?
In the long run, it could protect us from future COVID-19 outbreaks. To get there, we need an effective vaccine."


Clearly they are not saying herd immunity is a vaccine. You can get to herd immunity if you have vaccinated enough people but your link isn't saying to reach herd immunity by exposure.
Vaccine works the same and from future ones, yes, but for now herd immunity is all we have. What do you propose? Indefinite lockdowns?
 
McConnell has “insisted” that the next stimulus package will include legal immunity for businesses that open back up. He told Politico, “The next pandemic coming will be the lawsuit pandemic in the wake of this one. So we need to prevent that now when we have the opportunity to do it.” It’s important to understand what McConnell is proposing here: He’s saying that he will withhold aid money to state and local governments fighting the Covid-19 pandemic if the package does not include legal giveaways to protect businesses from the justice system.
--------------------------------
soon workers will have no rights if the republicans stay in power.

The federal or state govt shouldn't even be involved in this whole scam pandemic. If a business wants to open or close, it should be their decision. Likewise, if an individual wants to stay home or frequent a business establishment, it should be their decision. Screw the pathetic government. Why do libs always need to be led around by the nose. They look to govt because thats all they have. Its their religion.
It will be a blessing!

Look at it this way. Say there are 100 of us in the world. 25 are elderly and or sick and 75 of us are healthy adults.

Scenario #1
We all isolate. But one or two of us get the disease from going to a grocery store or Home Depot, etc. We then pass it on to one or two we see at a liquor store or again a grocery store and so on. The virus makes us a little ill but nothing major, like a common cold, as we are healthy adults. This progresses for months as we isolate so the virus has time to jump around and of course eventually gets to the 25 or so vulnerable.

Scenario #2

We isolate the 25, all 75 go out at once. We all get the virus. The virus has nowhere else to jump as all 75 have it and are building antibodies and immunity. Virus dies out in ~3 weeks and the other 25 can easily go out.

The key like with all viruses is to give it no where else to go. This is why the flu dies every spring. This is not because of warmer weather but because of herd immunity that kills it off naturally. Lockdowns are having the opposite effect. What you do is isolate the vulnerable and let the rest of us get it. This creates the often spoken about herd immunity and kills the virus.

www.discovermagazine.com

Is Herd Immunity Our Best Weapon Against COVID-19?
In the long run, it could protect us from future COVID-19 outbreaks. To get there, we need an effective vaccine.
www.discovermagazine.com
www.discovermagazine.com


Sweden will be a great case study


"In the long run, it could protect us from future COVID-19 outbreaks. To get there, we need an effective vaccine."

Are you not understanding your own links again? Vaccine, we aren't going to have an effective herd immunity that doesn't get a lot of people killed unless we have a vaccine. Your own sources tell you this.
Herd immunity is a vaccine, dummy. Act the same way.

No, herd immunity is herd immunity. You literally just copy/pasted this

"Is Herd Immunity Our Best Weapon Against COVID-19?
In the long run, it could protect us from future COVID-19 outbreaks. To get there, we need an effective vaccine."


Clearly they are not saying herd immunity is a vaccine. You can get to herd immunity if you have vaccinated enough people but your link isn't saying to reach herd immunity by exposure.
Vaccine works the same and from future ones, yes, but for now herd immunity is all we have. What do you propose? Indefinite lockdowns?

Well, no. The entire purpose of a vaccine is so that people don't contract diseases. We also really don't know if herd immunity is a thing for COVID and at what expense? You may be OK for a couple of months but in the meantime you've compromised your lungs, kidneys or heart where maybe you will fall really sick when the common flu comes around. Or damaged your kidneys where later in life you are more likely to end up with kidney disease. There are just things we don't know about this particular virus right now.
 
The effective vaccine is exposure to the healthy who develop antibodies. When that virus comes along in the future most will be naturally immune and will not be infected nor will they transmit the virus. This isnt difficult. Seriously, why is this so difficult to understand?

How long do those antibodies last?

Also, that's not the definition of a vaccine.

Its natural immunity which is better than vaccination. Bubonic plague killed 70 percent in europe and england. I can guarantee you they'd have gladly traded the black death for this wimpy thing we're dealing with. Dont pluck your nose hairs either.

 
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McConnell has “insisted” that the next stimulus package will include legal immunity for businesses that open back up. He told Politico, “The next pandemic coming will be the lawsuit pandemic in the wake of this one. So we need to prevent that now when we have the opportunity to do it.” It’s important to understand what McConnell is proposing here: He’s saying that he will withhold aid money to state and local governments fighting the Covid-19 pandemic if the package does not include legal giveaways to protect businesses from the justice system.
--------------------------------
soon workers will have no rights if the republicans stay in power.

The federal or state govt shouldn't even be involved in this whole scam pandemic. If a business wants to open or close, it should be their decision. Likewise, if an individual wants to stay home or frequent a business establishment, it should be their decision. Screw the pathetic government. Why do libs always need to be led around by the nose. They look to govt because thats all they have. Its their religion.
It will be a blessing!

Look at it this way. Say there are 100 of us in the world. 25 are elderly and or sick and 75 of us are healthy adults.

Scenario #1
We all isolate. But one or two of us get the disease from going to a grocery store or Home Depot, etc. We then pass it on to one or two we see at a liquor store or again a grocery store and so on. The virus makes us a little ill but nothing major, like a common cold, as we are healthy adults. This progresses for months as we isolate so the virus has time to jump around and of course eventually gets to the 25 or so vulnerable.

Scenario #2

We isolate the 25, all 75 go out at once. We all get the virus. The virus has nowhere else to jump as all 75 have it and are building antibodies and immunity. Virus dies out in ~3 weeks and the other 25 can easily go out.

The key like with all viruses is to give it no where else to go. This is why the flu dies every spring. This is not because of warmer weather but because of herd immunity that kills it off naturally. Lockdowns are having the opposite effect. What you do is isolate the vulnerable and let the rest of us get it. This creates the often spoken about herd immunity and kills the virus.

www.discovermagazine.com

Is Herd Immunity Our Best Weapon Against COVID-19?
In the long run, it could protect us from future COVID-19 outbreaks. To get there, we need an effective vaccine.
www.discovermagazine.com
www.discovermagazine.com


Sweden will be a great case study


"In the long run, it could protect us from future COVID-19 outbreaks. To get there, we need an effective vaccine."

Are you not understanding your own links again? Vaccine, we aren't going to have an effective herd immunity that doesn't get a lot of people killed unless we have a vaccine. Your own sources tell you this.
Herd immunity is a vaccine, dummy. Act the same way.

No, herd immunity is herd immunity. You literally just copy/pasted this

"Is Herd Immunity Our Best Weapon Against COVID-19?
In the long run, it could protect us from future COVID-19 outbreaks. To get there, we need an effective vaccine."


Clearly they are not saying herd immunity is a vaccine. You can get to herd immunity if you have vaccinated enough people but your link isn't saying to reach herd immunity by exposure.
Vaccine works the same and from future ones, yes, but for now herd immunity is all we have. What do you propose? Indefinite lockdowns?

Well, no. The entire purpose of a vaccine is so that people don't contract diseases. We also really don't know if herd immunity is a thing for COVID and at what expense? You may be OK for a couple of months but in the meantime you've compromised your lungs, kidneys or heart where maybe you will fall really sick when the common flu comes around. Or damaged your kidneys where later in life you are more likely to end up with kidney disease. There are just things we don't know about this particular virus right now.
Really? How effective is the flu vaccine? I had This Virus. It’s overblown unless you’re old or feeble.
 
Should we all be able to sue the governors and other politicians who opened up too early?

What about the "protestors" who pressured them to do so?

There are clear guidelines for reopening that are being ignored.

Can we sue the tRump *administration* for not enforcing them?

How about for their generally inept response and attempts to dodge responsibility for it?
is-it-rude-5bc935.jpg
 
Its amazing and disgusting to watch the media and their duped libtard TDS followers almost wish and beg for this virus to kill more and damage the economy more....

They never intended to show their true colors this early....if Biden got the Oval Office they'd make the old Soviet Union look like Sweden. They're hardcore millionaire communists and they hate everything about America and it's people.
 
The effective vaccine is exposure to the healthy who develop antibodies. When that virus comes along in the future most will be naturally immune and will not be infected nor will they transmit the virus. This isnt difficult. Seriously, why is this so difficult to understand?

How long do those antibodies last?

Also, that's not the definition of a vaccine.

Its natural immunity which is better than vaccination. Bubonic plague killed 70 percent in europe and england. I can guarantee you they'd have gladly traded the black death for this wimpy thing we're dealing with. Dont pluck your nose hairs either.


I'm sure they would have appreciated a simple tooth brush and tooth paste too, but that doesn't make the bubonic plague relevant to the conversation.
 
McConnell has “insisted” that the next stimulus package will include legal immunity for businesses that open back up. He told Politico, “The next pandemic coming will be the lawsuit pandemic in the wake of this one. So we need to prevent that now when we have the opportunity to do it.” It’s important to understand what McConnell is proposing here: He’s saying that he will withhold aid money to state and local governments fighting the Covid-19 pandemic if the package does not include legal giveaways to protect businesses from the justice system.
--------------------------------
soon workers will have no rights if the republicans stay in power.

The federal or state govt shouldn't even be involved in this whole scam pandemic. If a business wants to open or close, it should be their decision. Likewise, if an individual wants to stay home or frequent a business establishment, it should be their decision. Screw the pathetic government. Why do libs always need to be led around by the nose. They look to govt because thats all they have. Its their religion.
It will be a blessing!

Look at it this way. Say there are 100 of us in the world. 25 are elderly and or sick and 75 of us are healthy adults.

Scenario #1
We all isolate. But one or two of us get the disease from going to a grocery store or Home Depot, etc. We then pass it on to one or two we see at a liquor store or again a grocery store and so on. The virus makes us a little ill but nothing major, like a common cold, as we are healthy adults. This progresses for months as we isolate so the virus has time to jump around and of course eventually gets to the 25 or so vulnerable.

Scenario #2

We isolate the 25, all 75 go out at once. We all get the virus. The virus has nowhere else to jump as all 75 have it and are building antibodies and immunity. Virus dies out in ~3 weeks and the other 25 can easily go out.

The key like with all viruses is to give it no where else to go. This is why the flu dies every spring. This is not because of warmer weather but because of herd immunity that kills it off naturally. Lockdowns are having the opposite effect. What you do is isolate the vulnerable and let the rest of us get it. This creates the often spoken about herd immunity and kills the virus.

www.discovermagazine.com

Is Herd Immunity Our Best Weapon Against COVID-19?
In the long run, it could protect us from future COVID-19 outbreaks. To get there, we need an effective vaccine.
www.discovermagazine.com
www.discovermagazine.com


Sweden will be a great case study


"In the long run, it could protect us from future COVID-19 outbreaks. To get there, we need an effective vaccine."

Are you not understanding your own links again? Vaccine, we aren't going to have an effective herd immunity that doesn't get a lot of people killed unless we have a vaccine. Your own sources tell you this.
Herd immunity is a vaccine, dummy. Act the same way.

No, herd immunity is herd immunity. You literally just copy/pasted this

"Is Herd Immunity Our Best Weapon Against COVID-19?
In the long run, it could protect us from future COVID-19 outbreaks. To get there, we need an effective vaccine."


Clearly they are not saying herd immunity is a vaccine. You can get to herd immunity if you have vaccinated enough people but your link isn't saying to reach herd immunity by exposure.
Vaccine works the same and from future ones, yes, but for now herd immunity is all we have. What do you propose? Indefinite lockdowns?

Well, no. The entire purpose of a vaccine is so that people don't contract diseases. We also really don't know if herd immunity is a thing for COVID and at what expense? You may be OK for a couple of months but in the meantime you've compromised your lungs, kidneys or heart where maybe you will fall really sick when the common flu comes around. Or damaged your kidneys where later in life you are more likely to end up with kidney disease. There are just things we don't know about this particular virus right now.
Really? How effective is the flu vaccine? I had This Virus. It’s overblown unless you’re old or feeble.

Sometimes it's effective, sometimes it misses the mark. You should look into that.

In the meantime COVID is deadlier than the flu.
 

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