Zone1 What's the nuttiest allegedly Christian religion on the Planet?

[presonorek]

What's the nuttiest allegedly Christian religion on the Planet?​

Very ignorant question.

Christianity itself is the religion. Most of the various faiths listed in the poll question are simply kinds of Christian-based faiths and denominations.

Yeah. He wants to know which kind or denomination is the nuttiest. Perhaps he used the wrong word. Perhaps he didn’t. It doesn’t change the intent. We all (including you) knew what he meant.

 

[BackAgain]

Yeah. He wants to know which kind or denomination is the nuttiest. Perhaps he used the wrong word. Perhaps he didn’t. It doesn’t change the intent. We all (including you) knew what he meant.

Sit down, kid. It’s tough to educate people in a noisy classroom.

Go sit in the corner and wear a dunce cap.

 

[presonorek]

Sit down, kid. It’s tough to educate people in a noisy classroom.

Go sit in the corner and wear a dunce cap.

I wear two dunce caps.

 

[BackAgain]

I wear two dunce caps.

I won’t ask.

 

[surada]

So, it is your opinion that Genesis 18 and 19 is a lie? Of course Sodom and Gomorrah existed during the days of Abraham. The sin of Sodom and Gomorrah was homosexuality and it has survived until today and is still named after the city of Sodom, i.e. Sodomy.

Sodomy

A morality tale isn't a lie. The Bible is not a history book.

 

[surada]

Scientology.
On a separate note, the most violent would be, Islam. All the Abrahamic religions suck, but Islam is the worst of the lot.

Such ignorance.

 

[Clyde 154]

I got to the end of the first line and I realized you know nothing about Judaism and the fact that it’s not all about religion. It’s not LDS that are bringing up the question if indigenous Americans are related to Jews from Israel. They should not be for the reasons I wrote.
Jews for the most part wandered and stuck together over the millenniums. So, those that came back to Israel in 1948 were the tribe of Judah. The ones who left in 600 BC and came back with Ezra and Nehemiah and then left in about 70 AD.

Proof? Ad Hominem BS is the foundation on which Mormonism was created.........the church of latter day saints was constructed by God, but by Gifters, that became wealthy based upon the guilibity those without the ability for critical independent thinking.

 

[Clyde 154]

Both Hitler and Mussolini rejected socialism and embraced hard right conservative Fascism.

Yeah.......the HARD RIGHT, hates capitalism......the HARD RIGHT attempts to take over the banking and education system, the Hard Right takes all the guns away from the people as their first acts when they gain power and authority. All these things above.........are promoted by who.....THE HARD RIGHT.......or THE HARD LEFT? Who attempts to control all the labor parties in this nation?

Its not like the term NAZI......in "Deutsch" reads, "The National SOCIALIST German Workers' Party". Socialists often identify themselves as the HARD RIGHT. The SPIN by the LEFT? The self professed SOCIALIST was not really a leftist............as always, the spinning begins with....."Its Complicated........you simply don't understand....." Hitler was not a socialist because He hated MARXIST communism. Reality there is more than one way to identify a socialist system. The socialist idenity that defines NAZISM is simple, and the easiest to document. Planned Socialism: Defines Hitler's NAZI party exactly: A form of socialism where the state controls the means of economic production and decides what to produce.........Hitler's Germany produced machines of WAR. Planned Socialism also declares the STATE should control the banking system, the education system, and the right to make law void of representation (left wing example: Roe v. Wade made law from the bench........the laws on abortion were never represented by the people prior to Roe v. Wade) Socialism leaves the people out of the loop.

The left is guilty of attempting to redefine history actual. Compare the Characteristics above against Conservatism, and Progressive Liberalism .........see where the arrow of logic points. Its the Left in this nation that fights against Capitalism, its the Left that attempts to control the education, healthcare, and banking systems in this nation, its the left that is always attempting to take away our right to bear arms.

Yet you attempt to define Hitler as a HARD RIGHT despotic leader? Really? If you can prove that Hitler supported free market Capitalism (the way Conservatives do in this nation)...........if you can prove one of the first acts of Hitler was not to take away the peoples' right to own firearms........if you can prove that Hitler did not want to control the education system in Germany, the Health Care, and private property...then I will concede.........Hitler was a FAR RIGHT despot.

Please document your evidence that refutes Hitler's position on all the above. If not......you are guilty of attempting to redefine reality and history actual.

 

[Meriweather]

Proof? Ad Hominem BS is the foundation on which Mormonism was created.........the church of latter day saints was constructed by God, but by Gifters,

I suspect you mean was not constructed by God, but by grifters? If so, I agree. On the other hand we must keep in mind the carpenters, fishermen, and tax collectors in our own history. There is no doubt Joseph Smith was a con man. Can a con man be a prophet? Can a prophet be a con man? Shrug. But here is the deal (as I see it).

When a community or Church believes in Jesus Christ, it is an invitation to the Holy Spirit to begin work as well. The LDS Church, no more than any other Church, is without the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit works quietly, albeit slowly, with the people of God. The Holy Spirit is gentle and patient and there are good people who practice the LDS faith.

 

[Clyde 154]

I suspect you mean was not constructed by God, but by grifters? If so, I agree. On the other hand we must keep in mind the carpenters, fishermen, and tax collectors in our own history. There is no doubt Joseph Smith was a con man. Can a con man be a prophet? Can a prophet be a con man? Shrug. But here is the deal (as I see it).

When a community or Church believes in Jesus Christ, it is an invitation to the Holy Spirit to begin work as well. The LDS Church, no more than any other Church, is without the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit works quietly, albeit slowly, with the people of God. The Holy Spirit is gentle and patient and there are good people who practice the LDS faith.

Read.......comprehend with logic and reason. English Standard Version: "All scripture is breathed out by God, and is profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work....." Complete: requiring nothing more. There are no modern day revelations nor modern Apostles who can demonstrate the signs of an apostle..........bringing back the dead, giving sight to the blind, making the lame from birth walk......

Let me know when you can document just one true sign of an apostle. These must be miraculous acts, unexplainable by the laws of nature, it must be observed, reproducible, and consistent without attempting to blame the one who is to receive the miracle..........because he/she did not have enough faith. (SCAM). "Test all things; hold fast to what is good/true". God gave us a brain grounded in Logic and Reason for a reason.........and it was not to listen to grifters who have only 2 goals in this life...........power and wealth.



What does the "Holy Spirit of Truth" teach? Is the Holy Spirit something that can be possessed personally? Or.........do we receive "a gift" from the Holy Spirit of Truth? (Acts 2:38)

Acts 2 begins by stating, "........they were FILLED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT......" -- Acts 2:4. The scriptures do not state "....they were possessed by the Holy Spirit, but...they were FILLED WITH THE SPIRIT". Just what is the Gift of the Spirit? Its truth from Heaven, as that is what Jesus Christ Himself stated as to the reason He came to earth in the first place.....to deliver Truth -- John 18:37. Thus........the Apostles were filled with the Gift of the Spirit.........truth from Heaven. The Holy Spirit is 1 of 3 personalities of the Godhead........no one can possess God.

How do we get Filled with the Spirit of God today? By being filled with the product of the Holy Spirit of Truth..........the content of the Holy Scriptures that were all a product of God (2 Tim. 3:16-17)....as the term Inspired of God....translates literally to mean "God Breathed". The Holy Spirit declares that men now possess all that is required to make one complete, as pertaining to LIFE AND GODLINESS (2 Peter 3:1-10)..... that is the doctrine that comes from the Word of God, as revealed by Jesus Christ.....not tradition, but the actual word of God. Jesus stated that traditions of men make the word of God.......non-effective (Mark 7:13)

The Scriptures state that the supernatual gifts of the spirit would cease/fail, as they were but temporary, and of necessity to establish Truth from the Christ as delivered by the Spirit ........when the Supernatural gifts fail, all that remains is Faith, Hope and Charity/Love (1 Cor. 13) When were the supernatural gifts to fail? When THAT WHICH IS "PERFECT" comes.......perfect in the Greek means made whole, complete. The perfect is not a person..........but the completed Doctrine, and its the same Greek word used in James 1:25.....that concludes with the PERFECT being the PERFECT LAW OF LIBERTY...aka..........the New Testament of Grace, completed. The scriptures declare the FAITH (Doctrine) has been delivered ONCE by the saints of the 1st century. (Jude 3)

What makes one whole today and establishes righteous doctrine as declared by God? The Holy Scriptures.....not someone play acting as if they are in communication with God directly and He answers back today by the Holy Spirit. If God speaks to one today, He must then speak to everyone as God has no respect of person. No one person, saint or sinner is more important to God than the next.......as all are created by God with their souls ALL belonging to God to judge as He will (when the spirit leaves the body...the body goes back to dust....the soul goes to God to judge -- Eccl. 12:7

Its all truth and spiritualism. Walk in truth.......and allow the Spirit of God to guide your daily life. If the Word lives in your heart.........the Spirit dwells there within. As the kingdom of God is not a visible kingdom but resides within the Christian (Luke 17:21)

No one prospers when you PLAY CHURCH and attempt to duplicate the Acts of the Apostles......its like children playing, pretending to be like their heroes. As the Apostle, declared, "When I was a child (infant stage of church), I spake as a child, I felt as a child, I thought (reasoned) as a child; now that I am become a man, I put away childish things (1 Cor. 13:11)

 

[Cougarbear]

Proof? Ad Hominem BS is the foundation on which Mormonism was created.........the church of latter day saints was constructed by God, but by Gifters, that became wealthy based upon the guilibity those without the ability for critical independent thinking.

You can’t even bear to name the Church properly because it is The Church of Jesus Christ. No one became wealthy starting the Church. Many gave up their wealth like Jesus said for the rich man. The fact is, the restoration and restitution of all things including the Book of Mormon was prophesied by OT Prophets. Sucks to be you

 

[Clyde 154]

You can’t even bear to name the Church properly because it is The Church of Jesus Christ. No one became wealthy starting the Church. Many gave up their wealth like Jesus said for the rich man. The fact is, the restoration and restitution of all things including the Book of Mormon was prophesied by OT Prophets. Sucks to be you

Some link........more AD HOMINEM BS Your show is entertaining at first........but when you continue to just circle back and keep repeating the same material without documenting anything with objectivity....Its nothing but grins and giggles. you are putting us to sleep, its like white noise......you grow to ignore it. If you want documentation that proves the Mormons are filled with nothing but BS.......read the documented, book, chapter and verse in post 190

 

[onefour1]

A morality tale isn't a lie. The Bible is not a history book.

 

[Failzero]

Tie ( Kentucky Snakehandlers ) ( California Episcopalian )

 

[nomadic5]

Sit down, kid. It’s tough to educate people in a noisy classroom.

Go sit in the corner and wear a dunce cap.

LOL

I'm wondering what made you say this to that poster...

 

[nomadic5]

A morality tale isn't a lie. The Bible is not a history book.

Yes, it is.

It's sad you don't know much about the Bible

 

[nomadic5]

Well, Clyde and I don't agree on a lot but we agree that the LDS was founded (or in my case, I would say PROBABLY founded) by grifters..

It's interesting what Catholics and evangelicals (or...?) agree on. A lot of mainstream non-Catholic religions are actually in agreement with the CC on a lot of things. But the JW and LDS are not mainstream

 

[nomadic5]

I suspect you mean was not constructed by God, but by grifters? If so, I agree. On the other hand we must keep in mind the carpenters, fishermen, and tax collectors in our own history. There is no doubt Joseph Smith was a con man. Can a con man be a prophet? Can a prophet be a con man? Shrug. But here is the deal (as I see it).

When a community or Church believes in Jesus Christ, it is an invitation to the Holy Spirit to begin work as well. The LDS Church, no more than any other Church, is without the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit works quietly, albeit slowly, with the people of God. The Holy Spirit is gentle and patient and there are good people who practice the LDS faith.

As per usual, I find both truth and error in what you say.

You have NO idea whether the Holy Spirit is at work in the LDS "church" I tend to think the HS is everywhere, if only people will stop and listen. I do know that God is everywhere, and I can't see Him going somewhere/being somewhere without the HS ... LOL

So yeh, I say you are WRONG about the HS not being at work in the LDS. True, there is a lot of falsity there, but hey... wherever 2 or more humans are gathered together, whether in Jesus's name or not, there is some falsity due to sin.

Anyhow, you are also wrong to imply that the HS is always gentle and patient... If you are saying that anger is NOT from the HS, you are dead wrong. Jesus got angry... we recall the over-turning of tables in the Temple.. and His "Get behind me, Satan" directed toward Peter for saying something... not in God's will.

 

[nomadic5]

I won’t ask.

you 2 are making me LOL

(not sure why but hey... I think it's the first LOL of the day)

 

[Meriweather]

So yeh, I say you are WRONG about the HS not being at work in the LDS.

Re-read what I wrote. I said the Holy Spirit is with the Church of Jesus Christ and the Latter Day Saints, that they are no more without the Holy Spirit than any other Church.

"The LDS Church, no more than any other Church, is without the Holy Spirit."