What's always missing in the "gun debate"

[Jitss617]

Unsurprisingly, we have yet another gun thread with conservatives offering nothing of substance or value – just ignorance, stupidity, fallacies, and lies from the right.

We built the greatest country in the world with this right. That is not a fallacy. You will not change our culture

 

[hjmick]

You want common sense, yet you refer to those who advocate for the 2nd Amendment as "gun nuts."

Sorry if the truth offends you....LOL

The next time you tell the truth, I'll let you know if I find it offensive.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

What's always missing in the gun debate is common sense.

On one extreme side of the issue, you have gun-nuts who keep on "thinking" that virtually ANY gun legislation to curb the mass shootings is tantamount to giving up their weapons to fight off the U.S. government armed forces......Yep, insanity personified.

On the other extreme side of the issue, you now have someone like Beto demanding that citizens turn in their assault rifles (AR-15 and other war military style war rifles) or face the stigma of becoming an outlaw.

What is missing in the above debate is an understanding of even recent history.

In the mid 1930's, we DID ban the sale of machine guns and short-barreled rifles, etc. mostly based on the rationale that such weapons were NOT for the hunter and sportsman....The use of such weaponry was regarded as nefarious....and the law makers were then correct.

Ask yourself WHY we don't readily sell RPG rifles?......After all, if the mental rationale of most gun owners is to be allowed to buy military weapons to ward off the federal government assault on their liberty, an RPG rifle or machine gun would certainly be handy, don't you think???

The problem with the commies is this is not what they want. This is the starting point. After they win step A, it's off to step B. If they win step B, it's off to step C.

All the Democrats who were waiving their arms saying "No, don't be silly, we don't want your guns" are all of a sudden quiet about beatoffs remarks of confiscation. Just like with open borders that he also wants.

Stop the cancer the moment it starts. It's the only way to fight it from spreading. Because after AR's, it will be 44's. After 44's, it will be 38's. After 38's, it will be all semi-automatic guns. And it won't stop until Democrats have reached their ultimate goal, which is to have a disarmed society except for cops and criminals.

 

[nat4900]

And it won't stop until Democrats have reached their ultimate goal, which is to have a disarmed society except for cops and criminals.

You mean like the rest of the world (except for the ME) experiences....???

 

[Jitss617]

And it won't stop until Democrats have reached their ultimate goal, which is to have a disarmed society except for cops and criminals.

You mean like the rest of the world (except for the ME) experiences....???

You live in the wrong country.. move out

 

[Jitss617]

And it won't stop until Democrats have reached their ultimate goal, which is to have a disarmed society except for cops and criminals.

You mean like the rest of the world (except for the ME) experiences....???

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed

 

[Weatherman2020]

What's always missing in the gun debate is common sense.

On one extreme side of the issue, you have gun-nuts who keep on "thinking" that virtually ANY gun legislation to curb the mass shootings is tantamount to giving up their weapons to fight off the U.S. government armed forces......Yep, insanity personified.

On the other extreme side of the issue, you now have someone like Beto demanding that citizens turn in their assault rifles (AR-15 and other war military style war rifles) or face the stigma of becoming an outlaw.

What is missing in the above debate is an understanding of even recent history.

In the mid 1930's, we DID ban the sale of machine guns and short-barreled rifles, etc. mostly based on the rationale that such weapons were NOT for the hunter and sportsman....The use of such weaponry was regarded as nefarious....and the law makers were then correct.

Ask yourself WHY we don't readily sell RPG rifles?......After all, if the mental rationale of most gun owners is to be allowed to buy military weapons to ward off the federal government assault on their liberty, an RPG rifle or machine gun would certainly be handy, don't you think???

If it’s such common sense Democrats had a super majority and failed to pass it.

Why aren’t you Leftards talking about all the felons you release early from prison who go and shoot people soon after release?

Debunking the Myth: Obama's Two-Year Supermajority | HuffPost

How’d Hopeycare care pass without one Republican vote?

Oh yeah. Democrats had a supermajority.

You idiots talk about ‘sensible’ gun control.

California has had a Dem supermajority for decades. Where is it?

Fact is, you never say ‘once we pass this we are finished making new gun laws’ because you have one agenda - grab guns from law abiding citizens.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

What's always missing in the gun debate is common sense.

On one extreme side of the issue, you have gun-nuts who keep on "thinking" that virtually ANY gun legislation to curb the mass shootings is tantamount to giving up their weapons to fight off the U.S. government armed forces......Yep, insanity personified.

On the other extreme side of the issue, you now have someone like Beto demanding that citizens turn in their assault rifles (AR-15 and other war military style war rifles) or face the stigma of becoming an outlaw.

What is missing in the above debate is an understanding of even recent history.

In the mid 1930's, we DID ban the sale of machine guns and short-barreled rifles, etc. mostly based on the rationale that such weapons were NOT for the hunter and sportsman....The use of such weaponry was regarded as nefarious....and the law makers were then correct.

Ask yourself WHY we don't readily sell RPG rifles?......After all, if the mental rationale of most gun owners is to be allowed to buy military weapons to ward off the federal government assault on their liberty, an RPG rifle or machine gun would certainly be handy, don't you think???

You want common sense, yet you refer to those who advocate for the 2nd Amendment as "gun nuts."

Why don't you come back when you're serious...

Rather then ‘gun nuts,’ instead call them advocates of the ignorant, wrongheaded notion that the Second Amendment is ‘unlimited,’ that all gun laws are ‘un-Constitutional,’ and that everyone wants to ‘confiscate’ their guns.

Better?

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

What's always missing in the gun debate is common sense.

On one extreme side of the issue, you have gun-nuts who keep on "thinking" that virtually ANY gun legislation to curb the mass shootings is tantamount to giving up their weapons to fight off the U.S. government armed forces......Yep, insanity personified.

On the other extreme side of the issue, you now have someone like Beto demanding that citizens turn in their assault rifles (AR-15 and other war military style war rifles) or face the stigma of becoming an outlaw.

What is missing in the above debate is an understanding of even recent history.

In the mid 1930's, we DID ban the sale of machine guns and short-barreled rifles, etc. mostly based on the rationale that such weapons were NOT for the hunter and sportsman....The use of such weaponry was regarded as nefarious....and the law makers were then correct.

Ask yourself WHY we don't readily sell RPG rifles?......After all, if the mental rationale of most gun owners is to be allowed to buy military weapons to ward off the federal government assault on their liberty, an RPG rifle or machine gun would certainly be handy, don't you think???

You want common sense, yet you refer to those who advocate for the 2nd Amendment as "gun nuts."

Why don't you come back when you're serious...

Rather then ‘gun nuts,’ instead call them advocates of the ignorant, wrongheaded notion that the Second Amendment is ‘unlimited,’ that all gun laws are ‘un-Constitutional,’ and that everyone wants to ‘confiscate’ their guns.

Better?

"Shall not be infringed" carries the same weight as "Congress shall make no law".

 

[hjmick]

What's always missing in the gun debate is common sense.

On one extreme side of the issue, you have gun-nuts who keep on "thinking" that virtually ANY gun legislation to curb the mass shootings is tantamount to giving up their weapons to fight off the U.S. government armed forces......Yep, insanity personified.

On the other extreme side of the issue, you now have someone like Beto demanding that citizens turn in their assault rifles (AR-15 and other war military style war rifles) or face the stigma of becoming an outlaw.

What is missing in the above debate is an understanding of even recent history.

In the mid 1930's, we DID ban the sale of machine guns and short-barreled rifles, etc. mostly based on the rationale that such weapons were NOT for the hunter and sportsman....The use of such weaponry was regarded as nefarious....and the law makers were then correct.

Ask yourself WHY we don't readily sell RPG rifles?......After all, if the mental rationale of most gun owners is to be allowed to buy military weapons to ward off the federal government assault on their liberty, an RPG rifle or machine gun would certainly be handy, don't you think???

You want common sense, yet you refer to those who advocate for the 2nd Amendment as "gun nuts."

Why don't you come back when you're serious...

Rather then ‘gun nuts,’ instead call them advocates of the ignorant, wrongheaded notion that the Second Amendment is ‘unlimited,’ that all gun laws are ‘un-Constitutional,’ and that everyone wants to ‘confiscate’ their guns.

Better?

So you have no desire to have a serious discussion on the issue either. Got it.

 

[Correll]

And it won't stop until Democrats have reached their ultimate goal, which is to have a disarmed society except for cops and criminals.

You mean like the rest of the world (except for the ME) experiences....???

Funny, for someone that doesn't want that, you seem to be defending the idea.

 

[Uncensored2008]

There's not a bigger group of control freaks on the planet. Worse the prissy stuck up bitches think they know best and they should rule the masses.

You mean like abortion rights, BlueBalls???

So Comrade, defending oneself and ones family, totally NOT a right.

Killing babies, totally a right.

You Communists are some SICK motherfuckers.

 

[OKTexas]

What's always missing in the gun debate is common sense.

On one extreme side of the issue, you have gun-nuts who keep on "thinking" that virtually ANY gun legislation to curb the mass shootings is tantamount to giving up their weapons to fight off the U.S. government armed forces......Yep, insanity personified.

On the other extreme side of the issue, you now have someone like Beto demanding that citizens turn in their assault rifles (AR-15 and other war military style war rifles) or face the stigma of becoming an outlaw.

What is missing in the above debate is an understanding of even recent history.

In the mid 1930's, we DID ban the sale of machine guns and short-barreled rifles, etc. mostly based on the rationale that such weapons were NOT for the hunter and sportsman....The use of such weaponry was regarded as nefarious....and the law makers were then correct.

Ask yourself WHY we don't readily sell RPG rifles?......After all, if the mental rationale of most gun owners is to be allowed to buy military weapons to ward off the federal government assault on their liberty, an RPG rifle or machine gun would certainly be handy, don't you think???

I guess you're too ignorant to know the AR style weapon was approved for civilians sales before the military adopted a variant with select fire. So the AR was and is a civilian utility rifle that the military latter adopted. Also the modern RPG is not fired from a rifle, it's fired form a multi-use launcher.

Perhaps you should educate yourself before you insert your foot in your mouth.

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[OKTexas]

Its been proven that if we give gun control advocates an inch they take a mile. So piss off gun control advocates you lying scum.

So it has been proven...

Can we see your proof?

Name one gun law that was passed where the commies said they were satisfied and would ask for no more laws.

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[ThunderKiss1965]

What's always missing in the gun debate is common sense.

On one extreme side of the issue, you have gun-nuts who keep on "thinking" that virtually ANY gun legislation to curb the mass shootings is tantamount to giving up their weapons to fight off the U.S. government armed forces......Yep, insanity personified.

On the other extreme side of the issue, you now have someone like Beto demanding that citizens turn in their assault rifles (AR-15 and other war military style war rifles) or face the stigma of becoming an outlaw.

What is missing in the above debate is an understanding of even recent history.

In the mid 1930's, we DID ban the sale of machine guns and short-barreled rifles, etc. mostly based on the rationale that such weapons were NOT for the hunter and sportsman....The use of such weaponry was regarded as nefarious....and the law makers were then correct.

Ask yourself WHY we don't readily sell RPG rifles?......After all, if the mental rationale of most gun owners is to be allowed to buy military weapons to ward off the federal government assault on their liberty, an RPG rifle or machine gun would certainly be handy, don't you think???

Whats missing ? Knowledge by the gun grabbers on how firearms function. What the **** is a RPG rifle ?

 

[Correll]

Its been proven that if we give gun control advocates an inch they take a mile. So piss off gun control advocates you lying scum.

So it has been proven...

Can we see your proof?

Name one gun law that was passed where the commies said they were satisfied and would ask for no more laws.

.

 

[miketx]

What's always missing in the gun debate is common sense.

On one extreme side of the issue, you have gun-nuts who keep on "thinking" that virtually ANY gun legislation to curb the mass shootings is tantamount to giving up their weapons to fight off the U.S. government armed forces......Yep, insanity personified.

On the other extreme side of the issue, you now have someone like Beto demanding that citizens turn in their assault rifles (AR-15 and other war military style war rifles) or face the stigma of becoming an outlaw.

What is missing in the above debate is an understanding of even recent history.

In the mid 1930's, we DID ban the sale of machine guns and short-barreled rifles, etc. mostly based on the rationale that such weapons were NOT for the hunter and sportsman....The use of such weaponry was regarded as nefarious....and the law makers were then correct.

Ask yourself WHY we don't readily sell RPG rifles?......After all, if the mental rationale of most gun owners is to be allowed to buy military weapons to ward off the federal government assault on their liberty, an RPG rifle or machine gun would certainly be handy, don't you think???

None of that shit is for sale today so stfu.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

And it won't stop until Democrats have reached their ultimate goal, which is to have a disarmed society except for cops and criminals.

You mean like the rest of the world (except for the ME) experiences....???

Yes, that's exactly what I mean.

You leftists with your "Everyplace is better than America" comments never seem to pack up your bags and go to these so-called better places. But hey........I understand why, you were born here.

But you're in luck. I happen to know of places in the US where nobody but government has guns, you don't pay any taxes because others are paying them for you, free government healthcare, government feeds you and decides what you're allowed to eat and not eat, no smoking allowed either.......

We call them prisons, and I can't think of a better place for liberals to be.

 

[Billy_Bob]

And it won't stop until Democrats have reached their ultimate goal, which is to have a disarmed society except for cops and criminals.

You mean like the rest of the world (except for the ME) experiences....???

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed

The DOI (Declaration Of Independence) clearly states why the general populace must be equally armed as our military...

In Congress, July 4, 1776.
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.



THE DOI clearly identifies the need to be able to protect your GOD GIVEN RIGHTS and the RIGHT to do so, to stop those who would impart tyranny on the populace.

 

[Correll]

And it won't stop until Democrats have reached their ultimate goal, which is to have a disarmed society except for cops and criminals.

You mean like the rest of the world (except for the ME) experiences....???

Yes, that's exactly what I mean.

You leftists with your "Everyplace is better than America" comments never seem to pack up your bags and go to these so-called better places. But hey........I understand why, you were born here.

But you're in luck. I happen to know of places in the US where nobody but government has guns, you don't pay any taxes because others are paying them for you, free government healthcare, government feeds you and decides what you're allowed to eat and not eat, no smoking allowed either.......

We call them prisons, and I can't think of a better place for liberals to be.

And it is worth noting, that scores of millions of people from those places are literally dying to get to HERE, instead of the other way around.


INdeed, what is the flow of Americans to these places? In the hundreds?