What would it take to secure the Strait?

What would it take to secure the Strait of Hormuz?

I've heard from a top military official that:
  1. Our military could go in any time and militarily open the Strait.
  2. We know where all of their surviving rockets and stuff are.
So all that leaves is trying to win the war diplomatically with negotiations first because Iran has nowhere left to go but down, rather than a very costly action that would no doubt leave many innocent people dead.

And just remember how the world hollered when that school of 130 kids was accidentally hit.
 
I've heard from a top military official that:
  1. Our military could go in any time and militarily open the Strait.
  2. We know where all of their surviving rockets and stuff are.
So all that leaves is trying to win the war diplomatically with negotiations first because Iran has nowhere left to go but down, rather than a very costly action that would no doubt leave many innocent people dead.

And just remember how the world hollered when that school of 130 kids was accidentally hit.
Of course we could. It's the cost of doing it that is a problem. The military doesn't want to commit war crimes and would have to do it the hard way. Plus there's the same problem as in Iraq: we could win the war but lose the peace after a decade of occupation.
 
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That's because more then 90% factually didn't now about it - unlike 99.9% of the world population being aware about Gaza and Israels killings and policies.
I think many did know but chose to look the other way, soldiers came home on leave and talked about what they saw and had done, the Camps in Germany were there years before the War, i admit they probably didn't know about the extermination camps which were in the East, but where did they think all those jews were going when there were round ups and their neighbours were taken away? there were also Camps in Germany, my Dad was with British forces when they entered Belsen what he saw there stayed with him all his life, i have some photos he brought back after the war of the SS Guards and the pits full of dead, that camp was close to a Town Celle a few miles away Dad never forgot the horrific smell of the place.
I admit the Gaza Genocide is live streamed yet they still deny it.
That's because more then 90% factually didn't now about it - unlike 99.9% of the world population being aware about Gaza and Israels killings and policies.
 
That wasn't your comment I answered upon, but:

Why do you think Trump and Rubio support it if it's a lie?

That Iran is a sponsor of terrorism is a fact - so is every other influential country on the planet.
I agreed. Read the post I was responding who claimed that Iran isn't funding Sunni terrorist organizations in his response to you:
Iran isn't funding or supporting those Sunni terror groups, where did you get that from?
 
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I think many did know but chose to look the other way, soldiers came home on leave and talked about what they saw and had done, the Camps in Germany were there years before the War, i admit they probably didn't know about the extermination camps which were in the East, but where did they think all those jews were going when there were round ups and their neighbours were taken away? there were also Camps in Germany, my Dad was with British forces when they entered Belsen what he saw there stayed with him all his life, i have some photos he brought back after the war of the SS Guards and the pits full of dead, that camp was close to a Town Celle a few miles away Dad never forgot the horrific smell of the place.
I admit the Gaza Genocide is live streamed yet they still deny it.
Soldiers who went on home leave during the war (10-15 days a year) - for a very few exceptions never actually talked about these things or actions they were involved themselves. My family had more shares in the Wehrmacht and administration then the average German citizens.

The only average person in my Family who "saw" what was going on, was an aunt of mine who served as a Wehrmacht nurse during the Warsaw 1944 uprising, and she only shared that horrific experience after the war. And it wasn't about Jews but Polish people.

Dachau and other KZ in Germany were known - but only in regards to imprisonment of so called subversive & criminal subjects.
When the mass evacuations of KZ's in early 1945 happened - people actually wondered about who these people are. And these evacuations happened almost entirely during the night.

My family had several staff-officers and two Generals in the Wehrmacht - none of them were involved in the mass-executions of Jews, however they were aware that Jews were transported away - to collection points, and that most or the Russian POW's wouldn't survive captivity.

The vast majority of German people believed what the government told them - Jews and other unwanted people were relocated to the East - to live amongst themselves in their own towns and settlements.

I talked to many people who lived in the vicinity of Extermination camps - they didn't notice any "smell" - aside at times from the chimneys (just like those of a factory) of the crematorium (the latter they had no knowledge about their existence). No one was allowed near, and certainly not into those camps and the guards were confined to the camps.

Many of those KZ inmates were forced to work in ordinary factories or industrial plants - however in separated buildings and no one was allowed to talk to them. Germans employees were told that if they talk to them or promote any contact they would be send to a KZ. An uncle of mine worked for a small construction company and they had three workers who were known to have been at Dachau - non of these workers addressed their stay at Dachau - and the other employees were clearly instructed not to talk to them - otherwise they would be send to Dachau.

It was rumored that these three had been socialists.
 
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Meanwhile Iran hits Israel tonight after the Zionists ignored warning not to bomb Beirut again.

A long time Bundeswehr friend of mine is since Thursday in Israel - so when he comes back I will get to know the details in regards to effect and damage first hand, at the beginning of July.
 
Soldiers who went on home leave during the war (10-15 days a year) - for a very few exceptions never actually talked about these things or actions they were involved themselves. My family had more shares in the Wehrmacht and administration then the average German citizens.

The only average person in my Family who "saw" what was going on, was an aunt of mine who served as a Wehrmacht nurse during the Warsaw 1944 uprising, and she only shared that horrific experience after the war. And it wasn't about Jews but Polish people.

Dachau and other KZ in Germany were known - but only in regards to imprisonment of so called subversive & criminal subjects.
When the mass evacuations of KZ's in early 1945 happened - people actually wondered about who these people are. And these evacuations happened almost entirely during the night.

My family had several staff-officers and two Generals in the Wehrmacht - none of them were involved in the mass-executions of Jews, however they were aware that Jews were transported away - to collection points, and that most or the Russian POW's wouldn't survive captivity.

The vast majority of German people believed what the government told them - Jews and other unwanted people were relocated to the East - to live amongst themselves in their own towns and settlements.

I talked to many people who lived in the vicinity of Extermination camps - they didn't notice any "smell" - aside at times from the chimneys (just like those of a factory) of the crematorium (the latter they had no knowledge about their existence). No one was allowed near, and certainly no into those camps and the guards were confined to the camps.

Many of those KZ inmates were forced to work in ordinary factories or industrial plants - however in separated buildings and no one was allowed to talk to them. Germans employees were told that if they talk to them or promote any contact they would be send to a KZ. An uncle of mine worked for a small construction company and they had three workers who were known to have been at Dachau - non of these workers addressed their stay at Dachau - and the other employees were clearly instructed not to talk to them - otherwise they would be send to Dachau.
Some of the photos my Dad brought home of the Camp Guards and a German Army Diary my Dad took from a POW, in the last photo is my Dad on the right.
 

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That is why decent people are in total agreement, that Israel can't be considered a civilized people. No civilized country in the 21st century committed a genocide such as in Gaza - and murders off thousands of Palestinians in the West-bank, via armed illegal settlers that are supported by the IDF.

I am going to say that you are full of chit, as long as you live in denial of these facts - and only point at evil deeds committed by Muslims against Israel - that don't even account for 5% of murdered and slaughtered Palestinians.
Ok bud, then why don't you explain to the room how this so called genocide by the Israelis was covered up by the entire world media during the year's your so called genocide was allegedly taking place ? Simple, you are lying and trying to cover for an evil regime that relishes in murdering their opponents in the most heinous of ways, and this regardless of them being innocent men, women, children, and pet's, so it's evident who the savages are that your buddies showed themselves to be.
 
Ok bud, then why don't you explain to the room how this so called genocide by the Israelis was covered up by the entire world media during the year's your so called genocide was allegedly taking place ? Simple, you are lying and trying to cover for an evil regime that relishes in murdering their opponents in the most heinous of ways, and this regardless of them being innocent men, women, children, and pet's, so it's evident who the savages are that your buddies showed themselves to be.
What on earth makes you say and believe - that Israels genocidal actions have been covered up? the entire world has seen it, and taken notice.

UN Inquiry Findings: The UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Occupied Palestinian Territory concluded that Israeli authorities are orchestrating a campaign that meets the criteria for genocide. They cited four genocidal acts: killing Palestinians, causing serious bodily or mental harm, deliberately inflicting conditions calculated to destroy the group, and imposing measures to prevent births.

Someone like you - who openly states "genocide allegedly taking place" - factually isn't worth any reply by me.!!!
 
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What on earth makes you say and believe - that Israels genocidal actions have been covered up? the entire world has seen it, and taken notice.

UN Inquiry Findings: The UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Occupied Palestinian Territory concluded that Israeli authorities are orchestrating a campaign that meets the criteria for genocide. They cited four genocidal acts: killing Palestinians, causing serious bodily or mental harm, deliberately inflicting conditions calculated to destroy the group, and imposing measures to prevent births.

Someone like you - who openly states "genocide allegedly taking place" - factually isn't worth any reply by me.!!!
The corrupt UN ??? They are nothing but POC the whole lot of them. They wouldn't know the difference in a terrorist vs an innocent family oriented human being. Spare me your fake BS.
 
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