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No he didn't...hell I wish he had...where do you get that crap from...He spent 10 months undermining his own CDC at every turn
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No he didn't...hell I wish he had...where do you get that crap from...He spent 10 months undermining his own CDC at every turn
It always amuses i see one of you idiots try to put this on Trump.You do realize youre never going to make that stick, right?We had some soldiers die. True. We'd have soldiers die if we stayed too.
Are you ashamed that your blob couldn't get it done?
It's not putting it ON Trump. He wanted out too. Now the gop is saying they'd have done better evacuation in a country without any land route out of. But they NEVER tried.It always amuses i see one of you idiots try to put this on Trump.You do realize youre never going to make that stick, right?
No he didn't...hell I wish he had...where do you get that crap from...
I do realize that your blob was never going to get us out of Afghanistan.It always amuses i see one of you idiots try to put this on Trump.You do realize youre never going to make that stick, right?
I do believe that the Generals advised him not to do a sweeping pullout, Candy.Yeah, you said he drew the troops down and singed a withdraw agreement.
You didn't say why it took him 4 years to make zero progress when it took President Biden 6 months.
LOL...I do believe that the Generals advised him not to do a sweeping pullout, Candy.
They knew what would happen, and just what the dementia ridden puppet found out.
Your messiah had 100,000 troops in that country, you just don't pull the plug on the
operation with those kind of numbers....well maybe the dementia ridden puppet would
have, but anyone with half of a functioning brain wouldn't have.
They never tried because it wasnt the right time. Also, Trump would have NEVER given up that airport. Surrenduring that was the dumbest god damn thing ive ever seen.It's not putting it ON Trump. He wanted out too. Now the gop is saying they'd have done better evacuation in a country without any land route out of. But they NEVER tried.
Why do you keep talking about Trump? What are your thoughts on Bidens epic foreign policy failure.I do realize that your blob was never going to get us out of Afghanistan.
What failure was that? Ending an un-winnable war?Why do you keep talking about Trump? What are your thoughts on Bidens epic foreign policy failure.
Yet somehow you remained silent when your blob signed the surrender papers.They never tried because it wasnt the right time. Also, Trump would have NEVER given up that airport. Surrenduring that was the dumbest god damn thing ive ever seen.
Trump didn't fuck it up like your POS president did. Game overLOL...
And all this time, your blob said he knew more than the generals. You did believe your blob, didn't you?
Trump claimed he knew ‘more than the generals.’ Now they want nothing to do with him.
As Mattis and Kelly depart Team Trump, Petraeus, McChrystal, and Keane denounce the Commander-in-Chief.archive.thinkprogress.org
He had 4 years and couldn't get it done. Of course what you won't say--since you're a coward and you're in the cult--is that he didn't want to make a decision that would reflect on him poorly. He couldn't make the tough call.
See...with enough goading...even a moderator will eventually have to admit the truth.Trump did fuck it up like your POS president did. Game over
Yes, the way he ended the war was a complete and utter failure.What failure was that? Ending an un-winnable war?
Trump had the agendas. And that is gone. We are already feeling the affects of deep state.I saw this in politco this morning - interviews with W admin and others - as to what we got right and wrong.
They Created Our Post-9/11 World. Here’s What They Think They Got Wrong.
Seventeen prominent players reflect on the decades of war they helped wage and the domestic defenses they helped erect.www.politico.com
And don't get me wrong, imo Trump was and is unsuited for the office, but that doesn't mean he was wrong about or for policy, he was more right than the three before him. And he was right about other stuff too, but thats's OT. That's no diss, btw, a lot of people have good ideas, but lack the temperament. Goldwater, Mitt Romney's dad, Jeanne Kilpatrick .... Pat Buchanan.
We never should have invaded Iraq over 9-11 because Iraq had nothing to do with it, nor did Iran for that matter. When Trump was president we were STILL fighting the spawn of the Sunni losers in Iraq who were ISIS in Syria. W actually made the 9-11 situation worse in creating more terrorists (its better to fight em there than here. LOL. How about not creating them to have fight them in the first place.) Trump wanted an end to that crap.
Trump also somehow knew, deep down, that Nato is lost. It's purpose was to defeat the Soviets. Like all institutions it seeks to live on in perpetuity. Reagan was certainly right in noting that whenever govt creates something, it's pretty impossible to shut it down. We still have the Tenn Valley Authority for god's sake.
The EU through Nato became embroiled in Afghan. W started out by starving that war for his Iraq misadventure. W plainly said we'd be in Afghan for a LONG time to nation build. the US has NEVER succeeded in that. Western europe rebuilt itself with US help after WWII, but they built their own societies, and they were democratically inclined anyway. Even the Soviets had "elections." Outside of Egypt, which was run by the Brit Empire (which was actually GOOD at nationbuilding) there aren't many democracies over there, and both Egypt and Iraq don't function as multi-ethincic/religious republics)
We shudda pulled the plug on Afgan when Obama was potus. I've wondered why he stayed. It was for nation building and the women, no doubt. And Biden was inconsistent back then. But would Obama have stayed if the EU and Nato were not so heavily invested with military and money? I don't know. It's odd that he pulled the plug on Iraq immediately, but lingered for 8 years in Afghan. And he's a muslim(-:
Trump knew we had to get out of there. He also knew Nato doesn't really serve a purpose. And in the end, it may be like all the European Alliances that led to WWI. It should have just been a regional conflict with Serbia and Austria.
Your blob negotiating with terrorists and signing the surrender papers was a crowning achievement?Yes, the way he ended the war was a complete and utter failure.
what trump got right about 9/11 was his initial speech that the towers came down from a controlled demolition.two days later he changed his tune and defended the gubernets version. He obviously was issued a deagth threat to his family to change his story remembering the JFK assassination where anybody who evidence that did not go along with the governments version of events ended up dying in mysterious deaths. smart decision sense the same thing happened with witnesses who also meant mysterious deaths after giving evidence of explosives going off.I saw this in politco this morning - interviews with W admin and others - as to what we got right and wrong.
They Created Our Post-9/11 World. Here’s What They Think They Got Wrong.
Seventeen prominent players reflect on the decades of war they helped wage and the domestic defenses they helped erect.www.politico.com
And don't get me wrong, imo Trump was and is unsuited for the office, but that doesn't mean he was wrong about or for policy, he was more right than the three before him. And he was right about other stuff too, but thats's OT. That's no diss, btw, a lot of people have good ideas, but lack the temperament. Goldwater, Mitt Romney's dad, Jeanne Kilpatrick .... Pat Buchanan.
We never should have invaded Iraq over 9-11 because Iraq had nothing to do with it, nor did Iran for that matter. When Trump was president we were STILL fighting the spawn of the Sunni losers in Iraq who were ISIS in Syria. W actually made the 9-11 situation worse in creating more terrorists (its better to fight em there than here. LOL. How about not creating them to have fight them in the first place.) Trump wanted an end to that crap.
Trump also somehow knew, deep down, that Nato is lost. It's purpose was to defeat the Soviets. Like all institutions it seeks to live on in perpetuity. Reagan was certainly right in noting that whenever govt creates something, it's pretty impossible to shut it down. We still have the Tenn Valley Authority for god's sake.
The EU through Nato became embroiled in Afghan. W started out by starving that war for his Iraq misadventure. W plainly said we'd be in Afghan for a LONG time to nation build. the US has NEVER succeeded in that. Western europe rebuilt itself with US help after WWII, but they built their own societies, and they were democratically inclined anyway. Even the Soviets had "elections." Outside of Egypt, which was run by the Brit Empire (which was actually GOOD at nationbuilding) there aren't many democracies over there, and both Egypt and Iraq don't function as multi-ethincic/religious republics)
We shudda pulled the plug on Afgan when Obama was potus. I've wondered why he stayed. It was for nation building and the women, no doubt. And Biden was inconsistent back then. But would Obama have stayed if the EU and Nato were not so heavily invested with military and money? I don't know. It's odd that he pulled the plug on Iraq immediately, but lingered for 8 years in Afghan. And he's a muslim(-:
Trump knew we had to get out of there. He also knew Nato doesn't really serve a purpose. And in the end, it may be like all the European Alliances that led to WWI. It should have just been a regional conflict with Serbia and Austria.
Yes, the way he ended the war was a complete and utter failure.
You havent done your research. Biden and Obama are involved up to their ears on the virus being released.He didn't mismanage Covid at all. Covid took over the world then and it is taking over the world now. It wasn't Trump's fault and it isn't Biden's either. It was what it was and it is what it is.