Choices, choices, choices...

[White 6]

Did you not read the thread?

Yes, and just re-read it, before answering you.

 

[pknopp]

Yes, and just re-read it, before answering you.

So there was no reason to ask the question you did.

Can you back up the claim?


Democrats think we have no respect for life or choices.

Oho, we do. We don't sit there demanding a woman have the right to control her body and then require her to wear a mask or be fired from her only paying job.

Where was this done?

 

[White 6]

So there was no reason to ask the question you did.

Can you back up the claim?


Democrats think we have no respect for life or choices.

Oho, we do. We don't sit there demanding a woman have the right to control her body and then require her to wear a mask or be fired from her only paying job.

Where was this done?

You call those claims of fact that need backing up? I don't.

 

[candycorn]

Death is part of life. You Progs have mastered it. With your own agendas you have no remorse. You deny and then blame the other side.

The other side--your side you ignorant motherfucker--will jail doctors if they perform a medical procedure. This is what lead to her death.

 

[pknopp]

You call those claims of fact that need backing up? I don't.

They aren't facts. Just a rant. I thought OP's in Politics were supposed to be better than that?

 

[White 6]

They aren't facts. Just a rant. I thought OP's in Politics were supposed to be better than that?

Hardly a "rant", at least according to a dictionary.

 

[pknopp]

Hardly a "rant", at least according to a dictionary.
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So yeah, you can't back up the claim either.

 

[TemplarKormac]

So you think you can bully him. Try me.

No, if disproving his logic and reasoning counts as bullying, then I shall act as the iron brand to your collective of snowflakes.

 

[TemplarKormac]

So yeah, you can't back up the claim either.

He posted a dictionary definition. Still not enough for you.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Since I don't have the time to deal with personal attacks and liberal tripe, I'll take ChatGPT for $1000, Alex.

Q: "List me examples of employees being fired for not getting vaccinated or masking up."

A: "Here are some examples of employees being fired for not getting vaccinated or wearing masks, which became a contentious issue during the COVID-19 pandemic, particularly as employers sought to enforce workplace health and safety policies:

1. Healthcare Workers Fired for Not Complying with Vaccine Mandates:​

• Houston Methodist Hospital (Texas): In June 2021, 153 employees of Houston Methodist were either fired or resigned after refusing to comply with the hospital's COVID-19 vaccine mandate. The hospital was one of the first in the U.S. to impose a vaccine requirement for its staff.
• New York Healthcare Workers: In September 2021, hundreds of healthcare workers across New York were either fired or put on unpaid leave for refusing to comply with the state's COVID-19 vaccine mandate for healthcare employees.

2. Public Employees Losing Jobs Due to Vaccine Refusal:​

• San Francisco Fire and Police Departments: In February 2022, dozens of employees from the San Francisco Fire and Police Departments were fired for refusing to get vaccinated, despite citywide mandates requiring public employees to be fully vaccinated against COVID-19.
• Los Angeles County Workers: In December 2021, Los Angeles County terminated dozens of employees from various departments, including the Sheriff's Department, for not following countywide vaccine mandates.

3. Teachers and Educators:​

• New York City Teachers: In February 2022, New York City fired about 1,430 public school employees, including teachers and staff, who refused to comply with the city's vaccine mandate. This followed earlier terminations of hundreds of educators for the same reason.
• Chicago Public Schools: In 2021, Chicago Public Schools placed unvaccinated employees on unpaid leave and, in some cases, terminated staff for refusing to comply with the district's vaccination and mask mandates.

4. Airline Industry:​

• United Airlines: In September 2021, United Airlines announced it would terminate around 600 employees who refused to comply with the airline’s vaccine mandate for its U.S.-based workforce. United was one of the first major U.S. airlines to implement a vaccine requirement.

5. Government and Public Sector:​

• Washington State Employees: In October 2021, Washington State fired over 1,800 state employees, including law enforcement officers, transportation workers, and others, for failing to comply with the state’s vaccine mandate implemented by Governor Jay Inslee.
• New York Fire Department (FDNY): Several New York City firefighters were dismissed after they refused to follow the city’s vaccine mandate for municipal employees.

6. Corporate Sectors:​

• Tyson Foods: In November 2021, Tyson Foods, one of the largest food processing companies in the U.S., terminated hundreds of workers across its plants for refusing to comply with its vaccine mandate, which required all 120,000 employees to be fully vaccinated.
• CNN: In August 2021, CNN terminated three employees for entering the office without being vaccinated, violating the company's policy that required employees working in its offices to be vaccinated.

7. Police Officers:​

• Chicago Police Department: In 2021, the Chicago Police Department faced controversy as several officers were placed on unpaid leave or dismissed for refusing to comply with the city’s vaccine mandate for law enforcement.

8. Retail and Service Industries:​

• Trader Joe’s: Some employees reportedly faced termination or disciplinary action for not complying with mask mandates, though specific instances of firings vary by store and local regulations.
• Kroger: In 2021, Kroger announced it would end some benefits for unvaccinated workers, including paid sick leave for those who contracted COVID-19. Although no mass firings were reported, some individual employees faced dismissal for noncompliance with mask and vaccine policies.

These examples reflect a broader trend in various industries where employers enforced strict vaccination and mask mandates, often leading to termination for employees who refused to comply."

-ChatGPT 4o

You may go now.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Furthermore, from ChatGPT 4o:

"The U.S. military implemented strict COVID-19 vaccination requirements for service members, leading to disciplinary actions, including dismissals, for those who refused to comply. Here are some key examples:

1. U.S. Marines:​

• As of December 2021, over 200 Marines were discharged for refusing to get vaccinated after the Marine Corps’ deadline to be fully vaccinated passed. By January 2022, that number had risen to over 300 Marines being separated from service due to noncompliance with the military's vaccine mandate.

2. U.S. Army:​

• By March 2022, the U.S. Army had discharged over 3,000 soldiers for failing to meet the COVID-19 vaccination requirement. The Army had warned that refusal to comply with the vaccine mandate could lead to involuntary separation.

3. U.S. Navy:​

• In February 2022, the U.S. Navy announced it had discharged more than 240 sailors for refusing the vaccine. The Navy was particularly strict, and service members who did not comply faced a potential "general discharge," which could affect veterans' benefits.
• Navy SEALs were also affected, with some special operators filing lawsuits against the Department of Defense after being dismissed for refusing to get vaccinated on religious grounds. Their cases drew significant attention and led to legal battles over religious exemptions.

4. U.S. Air Force:​

• By January 2022, the U.S. Air Force had separated over 350 airmen for refusing the vaccine. This included personnel from active duty, the Air National Guard, and Air Force Reserves. The Air Force had the highest reported number of dismissals among branches due to noncompliance with the vaccine mandate.

5. National Guard:​

• In July 2022, about 40,000 Army National Guard members and 22,000 Reserve soldiers faced potential separation from service after missing the COVID-19 vaccine deadline. Those who remained unvaccinated risked losing their positions, pay, and benefits unless they received an exemption.

6. Religious and Medical Exemptions:​

• Across all branches, thousands of service members applied for religious or medical exemptions from the vaccine. However, the majority of these requests were denied, with only a small percentage receiving approval. Many of those denied faced involuntary separation or dismissal."

 

[TemplarKormac]

How many of them were women, pk? HOW MANY? How many of them had children to feed?

Now get out of my face.

 

[pknopp]

Ha!

Guess again!

 

[Vrenn]

No, if disproving his logic and reasoning counts as bullying, then I shall act as the iron brand to your collective of snowflakes.

I am a staunch anti-tRump and MAGA. Now, with all the crap he's spewing and your bunch backing him up, whats to anything resembling reason and logic. Now, unless you are part of the 1% top earners then you aren't going to gain anything. In fact, you will lose a bit. Meanwhile, our infrastructure will continue to deteriorate until we have no option but to build it from the ground up. Better to maintain it than rebuilt it completely. And don't give me the crap about trickle down economy. The only trickle down that happened due to that was the increase in the top 1%s Caman Accounts.

 

[TemplarKormac]

pknopp

Anthony Fauci - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Guess what that means? Your argument falls flat. Again. He got so drawn up in his role that he wound up misleading a president into shutting down the country while DOING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to curb the millions of deaths being caused by COVID-19.

 

[TemplarKormac]

I am a staunch anti-tRump and MAGA

You wear that like a badge of honor.

I don't care who you are.

Now, with all the crap he's spewing and your bunch backing him up, whats to anything resembling reason and logic

You're nothing but a beta gorilla pounding his chest in front of a mirror.

Now, unless you are part of the 1% top earners then you aren't going to gain anything.

Huh?

Now, unless you are part of the 1% top earners then you aren't going to gain anything. In fact, you will lose a bit. Meanwhile, our infrastructure will continue to deteriorate until we have no option but to build it from the ground up. Better to maintain it than rebuilt it completely. And don't give me the crap about trickle down economy. The only trickle down that happened due to that was the increase in the top 1%s Caman Accounts.

Whaaaaaat? You gonna make sense anytime soon?

 

[TemplarKormac]

Anyone else care to make a fool of themselves in this thread today? If not, I am open to a healthy debate about the subject matter of my thread. If nobody's interested, I'll go make a nice breakfast for my grandmother.

 

[pknopp]

pknopp

Anthony Fauci - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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Guess what that means? Your argument falls flat. Again.

Hardly, that isn't Trump standing right next to Fauci as he droned on?

 

[TemplarKormac]

Hardly, that isn't Trump standing right next to Fauci as he droned on?

What part of "served under every president since Reagan" did you not read?

Beat it.

 

[TemplarKormac]

What part of "served under every president since Reagan" did you not read?

Beat it.

Additionally, now that you're being dunked on, you're now the one refusing to back up your claims, and when you try, you cherry pick. Like I said, beat it.