What Netanyahu's Victory Tells Me

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that is him, everyone look who you elected. Please bibi return the 3.2 billion we gave you this year!!

Angry aren't we? And why exactly aren't you upset over Palestine's elections? Or any other Middle East country? Look at what your hypocrisy has wrought.

The vast majority of Americans were upset that the Muslim Brotherhood won in Egypt in 2012.
 
We're going to have to stop with this cherrypicking of the data here:

Critics of Israel have argued that the departure of Christians from the area of Palestine is due to the "Israeli occupation." No doubt measures taken by Israel for security reasons have caused some economic difficulties and led to some departure. But the general accusation ignores the reality that two-thirds of Christian Arabs left the areas between 1949 and 1967, the period when Jordan occupied and annexed the West Bank, and Egypt controlled Gaza, years before Israel controlled those areas.

The discriminatory treatment of Christians by the Muslim majority and the consequences of continuing Arab hostility towards the state of Israel have led to increasing migration from the West Bank and Gaza, the areas controlled by Muslims. Christians in those two areas now account for only about 40,000, 1.5 per cent of the total. The towns of Ramallah and Bethlehem, which depended on the Christian tourist and pilgrim trade, both lost their Christian majorities. In 1995, the number of Christians in Bethlehem was two-thirds of the population; today it is now less than 20 percent. According to the1947 census held by the British there were 28,000 Christians in Jerusalem; in 1967 after 19 years of Jordanian rule there were 11,000. By contrast, the number of Christians in Israel has increased from 34,000 in 1949 and 120,000 in 1995 to over 150,000, now numbering about nine percent of the Israeli Arab population, and two percent of the total population in all of Israel.

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The Palestinian Authority has denied Christian, as well as Jewish, ties to Jerusalem. Christian holy sites have been disparaged or insulted. The Palestine Liberation Organization in July 1997 evicted monks and nuns from the Holy Trinity Monastery in Hebron. Palestinian gunmen positioned themselves in or near Christian homes, hotels, and churches during fighting against Israel. The most notorious example of Palestinian insult was the takeover on April 2, 2002 of the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem by over 150 gunmen who used the Church to fire against Israeli soldiers who out of respect for the Church did not return fire. Priests, monks, and nuns were essentially hostages of the Palestinians, who apparently stole gold and other property including prayer books.

Theft of Christian land and property as well as desecration of Christian institutions and disparagement of the religion has occurred. There are allegations of Christians being forced off their land by gangs upheld by a corrupt judiciary. Businesses have had to pay protection money to maintain their existence. Individuals who have converted to Christianity have been threatened. After a Christian man dated a Muslim woman from a neighboring village in September 2005, armed Muslims crying "Allahu Akbar" attacked the Christian city of Taibe, setting fire to homes and businesses and destroying a statue of the Virgin Mary. The woman had already been poisoned by her own family in an "honor killing."

Christian graves in the Gaza Strip have been dug up. Anti-Christian graffiti has appeared, and Christian cemeteries and statues have been defaced. A Muslim mob in February 2002 attacked churches and Christian shops in Ramallah. The First Baptist Church of Bethlehem was firebombed on at least fourteen occasions, and the pastor, Naem Khoury, was shot. In Gaza in June 2007 a leader of the Baptist Church, one of the oldest in the area and which contains Gaza's only Christian library, was kidnapped and murdered. The Sagrada Familia school in Gaza was torched, and the nuns' building in the Convent of the Sisters of the Rosary in June 2007 was looted, and holy images and sacred books were burned.

In a speech in Paris, reported in L'Osservatore Romano on September 17, 2008, Pope Benedict XVI, concerned about developments in Muslim Middle East countries, suggested considering the concept of "positive laicity," a term he borrowed from French President Nicolas Sarkozy. The term refers to societies in which various religions should be allowed to exist, all of them separate from the state, and all treated in a positive fashion. The Pope was conscious of the danger facing Christianity if Islamic fundamentalism is successful and theocratic Arab regimes are created. Unlike the Palestinian Muslim treatment of its Christian minority, Israeli policy is built on a separation of religion and state in a society that is pluralistic and upholds freedom of religions and human rights.

In view of the comparative records of Palestinian Muslim and Israeli actions towards their Christian minorities, Israel comes closer to the positive laicity suggested by the Pope and President Sarkozy than Muslim Palestinians.

The Disquieting Treatment of Christians by the Palestinians
 

that is him, everyone look who you elected. Please bibi return the 3.2 billion we gave you this year!!

Angry aren't we? And why exactly aren't you upset over Palestine's elections? Or any other Middle East country? Look at what your hypocrisy has wrought.

The vast majority of Americans were upset that the Muslim Brotherhood won in Egypt in 2012.

And then there were those who weren't....
 

that is him, everyone look who you elected. Please bibi return the 3.2 billion we gave you this year!!
But he is the best salesman that BDS ever had.

Truly an asset.

Still playing that defunct Bowel Discharge Syndrome tune?
10 Years after Modest Launch, Israeli Apartheid Week Spans the Globe

In March 2005, the Arab Students’ Collective, a campus organisation at the University of Toronto, held a series of local events to support Palestinians and protest Israeli policies. Hoping to broaden debate at the end of the second Intifada and on the eve of Israel’s redeployment of ground forces and settlers from the Gaza Strip,
originally called “the separation plan,”
they called their proceedings Israeli Apartheid Week.

A decade on, their creation has become an annual and globally-recognised event. This year, it will feature cultural and educational events, as well as public protests in more than 200 cities on six continents.

Activists say the campaign’s growth indicates the rising appeal of its message.

http://www.palestinechronicle.com/1...aunch-israeli-apartheid-week-spans-the-globe/




Israel apartheid. You utter twit.

Get this. Arabs!

The next largest party is the Joint Arab List at 13 seats, followed by Yair Lapid’s Yesh Atid at 12 and Moshe Kahlon’s Kulanu at 10.

Let me know when they become part of the coalition.
 
that is him, everyone look who you elected. Please bibi return the 3.2 billion we gave you this year!!
But he is the best salesman that BDS ever had.

Truly an asset.

Still playing that defunct Bowel Discharge Syndrome tune?
10 Years after Modest Launch, Israeli Apartheid Week Spans the Globe

In March 2005, the Arab Students’ Collective, a campus organisation at the University of Toronto, held a series of local events to support Palestinians and protest Israeli policies. Hoping to broaden debate at the end of the second Intifada and on the eve of Israel’s redeployment of ground forces and settlers from the Gaza Strip,
originally called “the separation plan,”
they called their proceedings Israeli Apartheid Week.

A decade on, their creation has become an annual and globally-recognised event. This year, it will feature cultural and educational events, as well as public protests in more than 200 cities on six continents.

Activists say the campaign’s growth indicates the rising appeal of its message.

http://www.palestinechronicle.com/1...aunch-israeli-apartheid-week-spans-the-globe/




Israel apartheid. You utter twit.

Get this. Arabs!

The next largest party is the Joint Arab List at 13 seats, followed by Yair Lapid’s Yesh Atid at 12 and Moshe Kahlon’s Kulanu at 10.

Let me know when they become part of the coalition.


What for?
 
This is as delightful a day as I've had since November when obama and his democraps were soundly crushed at the voting booth.

This is a giant **** YOU to obama, the liberal media, especially the NYT and other scumbag leftwing outlets like it and MSNBC who so desperately wanted Netanyahu to lose. But the Israeli public is not going to allow its elections to be manipulated by the bottom-feeding scum of the earth imported from Wash DC to try and damage the Israeli elective process.

This is especially enjoyable knowing that he will likely outlast obama, who now will have to contend with him for his remaining 2 years in office.

I can just taste those delicious tears streaming down the faces of obama, abe rosenthal, the scumbags who consist of the NYT editorial board, and all those obama supporters and leftist, liberal trash hoping Netanyahu would lose. Here's a tissue, idiots...




Beautifully said and totally correct....I agree wholeheartedly. :eusa_clap::eusa_clap::eusa_clap:
 
Pres. Obama got the maj of jewish vote, you zionuts are so dumb.
 


Interesting but not sure it actually supports Phoenall's claim that the Palestinians reduced the Christian population (ie ethnic cleansing).

Your second link states:

Today, Christians make up just 1 percent of the mainly Muslim population of the Palestinian territories, said Hanna Eissa, who is in charge of Christian affairs in the Palestinian Authority's religious affairs ministry.

In 1920, they were a tenth of the population of Palestine -- land where today Israel exists alongside the occupied West Bank and the Gaza Strip. The Palestinians remain stateless.

Decades of conflict, shifting borders and occupation are the root causes of the poor economic situation that is forcing Christians to seek better lives abroad, Eissa said.


Rising Muslim fundamentalism, a trend across the Middle East, concerns some. But most cite Israeli occupation as the prime cause of emigration and the decline of their community.


"If there was no political problem, the economic situation would be good, so the problems are linked," Eissa said.

In Bethlehem alone, the Christian population has slumped to 7,500 from 20,000 in 1995. Then, the Middle East peace process had created hope that a Palestinian state would emerge alongside Israel. Some Christians who had left came back.

Sandra al-Shoumali, Abu al-Zulaf's sister, and her husband were among those who invested at the time. They thought peace was imminent and saw a prosperous future in a new state. But talks collapsed in 2000 and several years of violence ensued.

"There was no work, no way to live," she said. "Our family has been scattered," she said. They moved to the United States. She is visiting Beit Sahour for the first time in two years.
Come on Coyote. How many Palestinians ran right over to join ISIS? Not a small number I'm sure.

I'm sticking to the facts. What's going on in Gaza to affect the Christian population and what they have to say about it. Cleansing of ethnic minorities is most certainly going on in ISIS controlled regions - but where is the evidence of that in Gaza? Lack of economic opportunities, unemployment, conflict and instability and no light at the end of the tunnel are driving many out.
I don't think it's happening in Gaza because they know Israel would step in and kick their asses. The desire to do so though is certainly high.
 
Muslims treat Christians like shit anyways, your seriously blaming this on Israel? Israel has plenty of Christians who live there happily.

The Franciscans (The Society of Saint Francis) are blaming the Israeli occupation. . Did you not read attribution?

So? everyone blames Israel for everything. I was late to work this morning and blamed Israel.

No, the Society of Saint Francis, whose friars live and work in Palestine, blame the Israeli occupation for the departure of Christians from Palestine. The Society of Saint Francis is not blaming the Israelis for "everything", just blaming them for the departure of Christians from Palestine.

Why don't the Christians want to live with Muslims? that always works out so well. :rolleyes:

What does that have to do with the fact that the Society of Saint Francis has determined that Christians are leaving Palestine as a result of the Israeli occupation?
 
I smell another BUTTHURT troll. Smells more like burnt butt. :lmao:
Me not hurt at all,but I do wonder at those that think 23% of the vote is somehow a mandate,maybe you could explain that to me,because NO ONE ELSE CAN.

Welcome to the first grade. You see, let's say there are 68% voting rate, right? Likud wins 23% of the votes, Hertzog wins little more than 18%, The Arabs win 11%, all the rest win very little. It's the majority, the 23%, that is going to decide on how the government is going to be assembeled, since they have more chances to form a coalition. In our case, that's the Likud party.

Not so complicated, right?

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That's in no way a majority. It's a plurality, but good enough in most parliamentary systems.

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you zionuts are so dumb.

Here's a question:

Who lost the Israeli election last night? The Zionist Union. Catch that? The leftist party refers to themselves as Zionists.

Now, do you really even know what a Zionist is?
 
Israel is surrounded by violent neighbors who want to destroy them, they need a leader like Netanyahu right now.

I really wonder if he is the right choice. Right now, with growing instability and extremism represented by groups such as ISIS, it seems they need a leader who can also build coalitions with the more stable states in the region who are also threatened by this. It also needs someone who can settle the Palestinian issue so they can move on to other things - without alienating themselves further. The constant cry of "wolf" is a distractor from real issues both domestically and foreign.
Settle the Palestinian issue?

It hasn't been settled in 66+ years.

There is zero chance that anybody, serving-up any solution (other than the Jews packing up and leaving, or dying), is going to do that, short of expulsion.

Zero.

Bibi merely concedes the impossibility of such a solution, and declares that it will not be attempted on his watch.

The sort of 'coalitions' you speak of here will materialize if it is in the best interests of the surrounding states to subscribe to such an idea.

And, then, only until they, themselves, are out of danger.

The Arab-Muslim states of the region are, by nature, unstable, and volatile, and untrustworthy, to some extent or another.

And, for the most part, a 'large' extent.

Like I said, Israel will eventually annex the West Bank and call it by its rightful name for the last 3000 years before Arab Muslims changed it in the 1940's: Judeah and Samaria. There is no other solution.

Maybe Jordan, the real Arab Palestine, can work something out to take those that don't like it.

It hasn't been called Judeah or Samaria for over 2,000 years. Will Samaritans have the right of return to Samaria?

Bullshit! And when did the name West Bank come around, like 60 years ago, when Jordan and Egypt Attacked the newly formed Israel and occupied West Bank and Gaza? And how come they didn't create this mythical state of Palstine after 20 years, of occupation. Can you show us why there was no Paestinian movement to form a state?

A mythical name for a mythical region, for a mythical people, for a mythical state. Ha ha ha.
Mythical hey Roudy....yet another inaccurate,silly comment......I expect a little better than this from you.......I trust you and the family are well and happy,steve
 
So? everyone blames Israel for everything. I was late to work this morning and blamed Israel.

No, the Society of Saint Francis, whose friars live and work in Palestine, blame the Israeli occupation for the departure of Christians from Palestine. The Society of Saint Francis is not blaming the Israelis for "everything", just blaming them for the departure of Christians from Palestine.

Why don't the Christians want to live with Muslims? that always works out so well. :rolleyes:

What does that have to do with the fact that the Society of Saint Francis has determined that Christians are leaving Palestine as a result of the Israeli occupation?

They are leaving because the Palestnian leadership is making life miserable for everybody and Musłims practice Shariah Apartheid on Christians.

Well life as a Christian under a majority Islamic population is uncomfortable in general, they are probably leaving because the Islamists are treating them like shit. If you gave a Christian a choice to live in Israel or Palestine they would all choose Israel hands down.
I don't agree with that,mainly because many Palestinians are Christians,they have lived in harmony with Palestinian Muslims and Jews for that matter for centuries.....albeit times since 1947 have been strained.......Palestine has many Religious and other sites..... Tourists worldwide flock to Palestine......steve...Trust you are well Grav...I've missed your thoughtful input...
 
I smell another BUTTHURT troll. Smells more like burnt butt. :lmao:
Me not hurt at all,but I do wonder at those that think 23% of the vote is somehow a mandate,maybe you could explain that to me,because NO ONE ELSE CAN.

Welcome to the first grade. You see, let's say there are 68% voting rate, right? Likud wins 23% of the votes, Hertzog wins little more than 18%, The Arabs win 11%, all the rest win very little. It's the majority, the 23%, that is going to decide on how the government is going to be assembeled, since they have more chances to form a coalition. In our case, that's the Likud party.

Not so complicated, right?

israeli-election-2015-2-png.38071
That's in no way a majority. It's a plurality, but good enough in most parliamentary systems.

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Congratulations to Netanyahu for his victory! It seems like he is very well liked by Jewish folks.
 
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I smell another BUTTHURT troll. Smells more like burnt butt. :lmao:
Me not hurt at all,but I do wonder at those that think 23% of the vote is somehow a mandate,maybe you could explain that to me,because NO ONE ELSE CAN.

Welcome to the first grade. You see, let's say there are 68% voting rate, right? Likud wins 23% of the votes, Hertzog wins little more than 18%, The Arabs win 11%, all the rest win very little. It's the majority, the 23%, that is going to decide on how the government is going to be assembeled, since they have more chances to form a coalition. In our case, that's the Likud party.

Not so complicated, right?

israeli-election-2015-2-png.38071
That's in no way a majority. It's a plurality, but good enough in most parliamentary systems.

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Congratulations to Netanyahu for his victory! It seems like he is very well liked by Jewish folks.
Well 24% of them....that is...steve
 
No, the Society of Saint Francis, whose friars live and work in Palestine, blame the Israeli occupation for the departure of Christians from Palestine. The Society of Saint Francis is not blaming the Israelis for "everything", just blaming them for the departure of Christians from Palestine.

Why don't the Christians want to live with Muslims? that always works out so well. :rolleyes:

What does that have to do with the fact that the Society of Saint Francis has determined that Christians are leaving Palestine as a result of the Israeli occupation?

They are leaving because the Palestnian leadership is making life miserable for everybody and Musłims practice Shariah Apartheid on Christians.

Well life as a Christian under a majority Islamic population is uncomfortable in general, they are probably leaving because the Islamists are treating them like shit. If you gave a Christian a choice to live in Israel or Palestine they would all choose Israel hands down.
I don't agree with that,mainly because many Palestinians are Christians,they have lived in harmony with Palestinian Muslims and Jews for that matter for centuries.....albeit times since 1947 have been strained.......Palestine has many Religious and other sites..... Tourists worldwide flock to Palestine......steve...Trust you are well Grav...I've missed your thoughtful input...

I'm willing to wager that Israeli Christians have experienced more rights, coexistence and harmony with Jews than with Arab Muslims.

Oh also, "Palestinian" is an invented identity. There are no Palestinian Christians, but perhaps Arab Christians would be more appropriate.
 
I smell another BUTTHURT troll. Smells more like burnt butt. :lmao:
Me not hurt at all,but I do wonder at those that think 23% of the vote is somehow a mandate,maybe you could explain that to me,because NO ONE ELSE CAN.

Welcome to the first grade. You see, let's say there are 68% voting rate, right? Likud wins 23% of the votes, Hertzog wins little more than 18%, The Arabs win 11%, all the rest win very little. It's the majority, the 23%, that is going to decide on how the government is going to be assembeled, since they have more chances to form a coalition. In our case, that's the Likud party.

Not so complicated, right?

israeli-election-2015-2-png.38071
That's in no way a majority. It's a plurality, but good enough in most parliamentary systems.

Gesendet von meinem GT-I9515 mit Tapatalk

Congratulations to Netanyahu for his victory! It seems like he is very well liked by Jewish folks.
Well 24% of them....that is...steve

That's the way the multi party democratic system works. If the U.S. had a multi party system like Israel, elections would also be determined the same way.
 
I really wonder if he is the right choice. Right now, with growing instability and extremism represented by groups such as ISIS, it seems they need a leader who can also build coalitions with the more stable states in the region who are also threatened by this. It also needs someone who can settle the Palestinian issue so they can move on to other things - without alienating themselves further. The constant cry of "wolf" is a distractor from real issues both domestically and foreign.
Settle the Palestinian issue?

It hasn't been settled in 66+ years.

There is zero chance that anybody, serving-up any solution (other than the Jews packing up and leaving, or dying), is going to do that, short of expulsion.

Zero.

Bibi merely concedes the impossibility of such a solution, and declares that it will not be attempted on his watch.

The sort of 'coalitions' you speak of here will materialize if it is in the best interests of the surrounding states to subscribe to such an idea.

And, then, only until they, themselves, are out of danger.

The Arab-Muslim states of the region are, by nature, unstable, and volatile, and untrustworthy, to some extent or another.

And, for the most part, a 'large' extent.

Like I said, Israel will eventually annex the West Bank and call it by its rightful name for the last 3000 years before Arab Muslims changed it in the 1940's: Judeah and Samaria. There is no other solution.

Maybe Jordan, the real Arab Palestine, can work something out to take those that don't like it.

It hasn't been called Judeah or Samaria for over 2,000 years. Will Samaritans have the right of return to Samaria?

Bullshit! And when did the name West Bank come around, like 60 years ago, when Jordan and Egypt Attacked the newly formed Israel and occupied West Bank and Gaza? And how come they didn't create this mythical state of Palstine after 20 years, of occupation. Can you show us why there was no Paestinian movement to form a state?

A mythical name for a mythical region, for a mythical people, for a mythical state. Ha ha ha.
Mythical hey Roudy....yet another inaccurate,silly comment......I expect a little better than this from you.......I trust you and the family are well and happy,steve

No such name for the Area "West Bank" prior to 1948. Look it up. The Jordanians changed its name from Judeah and Samaria. It's called Muslim historical revisionism. They invade nations and then pretend all the history and achievements are "Islamic".
 
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