What makes you support one or the other?

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As has been adequately pointed out Hebrews were in the area around Moses arrival. Jews were not.

And just what kind of point are you trying to make here? Hebrews=Jews. Or did you miss that part of your history lesson?

Your ignorance is showing again Teddy. Not unusual for a Zionist of course, as you are more keen to justify fascism than to justify decency and honesty.

Hebrews were the tribe of Moses who came to The Levant, then with violence and murder committed genocide to remove the tribes on the land before them.

Jews were the people of Judea. The terms may be conflated now, but that is only due to the ignorance and confusion that is sown to make The Levant a "specialist" subject, to keep 'neutrals' at a distance - as neutrals would soon notice how inconsistent Zionist arguments are. As we did, before opposing Zionism.

The same goes for the terms Jew (is it a race/religion/culture), Israeli, Zionist.
Its all bollocks. Fundamentally Zionists are Zealots and in the same way as they caused Romans to destroy them and take the land back to the older name of Palestine Zionist Zealots are turning the world to support Palestine again.

'Jews' are no longer the people of Judea. The are the people of the world who have chosen to follow Judaism as their religion. The Nazi style of racial purity tests which are applied by Israelis and Rabbis whereby you have to "prove" heritage for so many generations is so close to genetics-justified racism it seems that it was either inspired by German Nazi thinking, or encouraged it. Israel is racist. So much so that Lipush - a convert as she tells - is not pure enough to be accepted as Jewish by many rabbis.

It is all a hoax of course. There is no racial or genetic element to being Jewish. We go back far enough and we all have the same ancestors. Trying to exclude people on these quazi-scientific grounds is the worst kind of fascist flim flam.
 


I know I have given you the lesson on dictionaries before Tossy, but it seems you fail that test once more and try to impose your own definitions.
I would love to waste my time by rubbing your nose in your idiocy again, but you are too insensible to notice. Just go find a good dictionary, and read through to delight yourself with uses of the words "invader" and "invasion" which don't fit your entirely limited requirements (and outlook).

As to your "yawn" RADA auditions, I don't know if you realise, but making an effort to insert a description of what you are doing does nothing to indicate boredom. Only desperation to pretend you are suffering from boredom. Why do you work so hard to try to deceive Tossy?
Are you just not willing to deal with Israel as the tyrannical gangster state that it is?

Get a grip mate. Get a grip.

Lets go back a little bit. In Monti's post that I responded to, I explained what an invasion is. You responded to me by accusing me of imposing my own definitions. I responded by posting a link for the definition of invasion, and it matched what I said therefore proving your accusation to be bullshit.
Your response is above.

I notice that when your lies are refuted, you respond by deflecting and posting complete drek. I guess that's one of your techniques that you use when you've just been made a fool of :)

And you tell me to get a grip ??? Oh Weezle Weezle Weezle

No sonny.
Your attempt to limit the definition failed. The dictionary included an armed invasion, but also many other types of invasion. You were wrong. It seems hard now, but you will feel better if you reread, understand, and admit it.

Go on. Give honesty a try Tossy. It will stand you in good stead for when you grow up.
 
In the OP I made my stance very clear...

And?

And your objective stance loses all credibility because of such.

"Free Palestine?" Just what is objective about that?

Did you read the title of the OP?

"What makes you support one or the other?"

Did you answer yet?

Which you didn't tell us why. You just rambled on about the occupation and the blockade as usual.

Did you answer the question?

I don't have to. It's obvious who the good guys are in this conflict. I'm not pretending to be someone I'm not, like you are.

I'm a Zionist and proud to be one. The Jews have every right to have their own state in land that has been holy to them for over 3000 years. And to defend themselves against all those that seek to destroy them. Period, end of story.

No quite right, you don't have to...

But then why participate in the post if you have no contribution
 
I don't have to. It's obvious who the good guys are in this conflict. I'm not pretending to be someone I'm not, like you are.

I'm a Zionist and proud to be one. The Jews have every right to have their own state in land that has been holy to them for over 3000 years. And to defend themselves against all those that seek to destroy them. Period, end of story.

If it were obvious, you'd be able to present Israel's case here with truth, facts and history, and you'd win every time.

Presumably you spam threads with garbage because apparently you don't feel you have a lot of facts, truth or history on your side, no?
 
In the OP I made my stance very clear...

And?

And your objective stance loses all credibility because of such.

"Free Palestine?" Just what is objective about that?

Did you read the title of the OP?

"What makes you support one or the other?"

Did you answer yet?

Which you didn't tell us why. You just rambled on about the occupation and the blockade as usual.

Did you answer the question?

I don't have to. It's obvious who the good guys are in this conflict. I'm not pretending to be someone I'm not, like you are.

I'm a Zionist and proud to be one. The Jews have every right to have their own state in land that has been holy to them for over 3000 years. And to defend themselves against all those that seek to destroy them. Period, end of story.

I agree with you Roody...

Jews do have a right to have their own state and to defend themselves.

You see, we aren't so different.
 
I agree with you Roody...

Jews do have a right to have their own state and to defend themselves.

You see, we aren't so different.

No they don't.
No more so than Zoroastrians have a right to their own state, or devil worshippers, or Scientologists. That Zionists have mostly obtained one through killing and diplomatic manoeuvring is besides the point. They don't have a right to it. If it ended tomorrow they would not have a right to a state then either. If the UN never agreed to Israel being the cuckoo in the Levant it would likely never have happened, and for that the UN is particularly to blame.

Even Jews agree they should not be there with an exclusive state. Only a special type of person agreed they should. Zionists. Like Adolf Hitler and Theodor Herzl, and the bought and paid for US Congress.

Israel = Moonies with F16's.
 
I agree with you Roody...

Jews do have a right to have their own state and to defend themselves.

You see, we aren't so different.

No they don't.
No more so than Zoroastrians have a right to their own state, or devil worshippers, or Scientologists. That Zionists have mostly obtained one through killing and diplomatic manoeuvring is besides the point. They don't have a right to it. If it ended tomorrow they would not have a right to a state then either. If the UN never agreed to Israel being the cuckoo in the Levant it would likely never have happened, and for that the UN is particularly to blame.

Even Jews agree they should not be there with an exclusive state. Only a special type of person agreed they should. Zionists. Like Adolf Hitler and Theodor Herzl, and the bought and paid for US Congress.

Israel = Moonies with F16's.

Well, to deal with a couple of things....

Everyone has the right to have their own state and live in peace... No matter creed, colour or religion...

I have said many times I do not agree with or support extremist views... For me Zionist views are as extreme as Hamas... Neither are right.

"exclusive state" suggests ONLY Jews... Which is clearly not the case...

Yes, even some Jews do not believe that there should be a State of Israel...

However, Israel was given as a 'homeland' for the Jews... So, let them have it... No expansionist ideas, no oppression of neighbours...

In the same way that there should be a non exclusive Palestinian State, with no expansionist ideas, no threats to neighbours...

I do believe that, without the extremists on BOTH sides, this would be possible...
 
... Everyone has the right to have their own state and live in peace... No matter creed, colour or religion...

Excellent.

I would like mine then. Where do I apply, or do I have to kill a lot of people first?
 
I don't have to. It's obvious who the good guys are in this conflict. I'm not pretending to be someone I'm not, like you are.

I'm a Zionist and proud to be one. The Jews have every right to have their own state in land that has been holy to them for over 3000 years. And to defend themselves against all those that seek to destroy them. Period, end of story.

If it were obvious, you'd be able to present Israel's case here with truth, facts and history, and you'd win every time.

Presumably you spam threads with garbage because apparently you don't feel you have a lot of facts, truth or history on your side, no?

You mean how you present the truth here, joker? Ha ha ha. Take a hike.
 
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As has been adequately pointed out Hebrews were in the area around Moses arrival. Jews were not.

And just what kind of point are you trying to make here? Hebrews=Jews. Or did you miss that part of your history lesson?

Your ignorance is showing again Teddy. Not unusual for a Zionist of course, as you are more keen to justify fascism than to justify decency and honesty.

Hebrews were the tribe of Moses who came to The Levant, then with violence and murder committed genocide to remove the tribes on the land before them.

Jews were the people of Judea. The terms may be conflated now, but that is only due to the ignorance and confusion that is sown to make The Levant a "specialist" subject, to keep 'neutrals' at a distance - as neutrals would soon notice how inconsistent Zionist arguments are. As we did, before opposing Zionism.

The same goes for the terms Jew (is it a race/religion/culture), Israeli, Zionist.
Its all bollocks. Fundamentally Zionists are Zealots and in the same way as they caused Romans to destroy them and take the land back to the older name of Palestine Zionist Zealots are turning the world to support Palestine again.

'Jews' are no longer the people of Judea. The are the people of the world who have chosen to follow Judaism as their religion. The Nazi style of racial purity tests which are applied by Israelis and Rabbis whereby you have to "prove" heritage for so many generations is so close to genetics-justified racism it seems that it was either inspired by German Nazi thinking, or encouraged it. Israel is racist. So much so that Lipush - a convert as she tells - is not pure enough to be accepted as Jewish by many rabbis.

It is all a hoax of course. There is no racial or genetic element to being Jewish. We go back far enough and we all have the same ancestors. Trying to exclude people on these quazi-scientific grounds is the worst kind of fascist flim flam.

My, my you do make a good pretzel. Now eat it yourself, I'm not biting.
 
What does my sig line have to do with "peace is best"?

You don't think peace is best?

Given what the Palestinian version of 'peace' is... no.

I'm not Palestinian...

You read what I want for peace didn't you.

Ya right. You just have some type of uncontrollable urge. With all the real suffering, poverty, disease, and death that is going on all over the world, you choose at best a cause whom the so called "victims" happen to be Islamic terrorists that bring most of their "suffering" upon themselves in their quest to commit genocide upon the Jews.
 
... Everyone has the right to have their own state and live in peace... No matter creed, colour or religion...

Excellent.

I would like mine then. Where do I apply, or do I have to kill a lot of people first?

You'd fit right in with ISIS, Al Queda, Hamas, Hezbollah, etc. You already talk like them so it won't be a big leap for you.

In these pseudo states, you'd have to convert to Islam first, but of course we already know you already have.
 
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And your objective stance loses all credibility because of such.

"Free Palestine?" Just what is objective about that?

Did you read the title of the OP?

"What makes you support one or the other?"

Did you answer yet?

Which you didn't tell us why. You just rambled on about the occupation and the blockade as usual.

Did you answer the question?

I don't have to. It's obvious who the good guys are in this conflict. I'm not pretending to be someone I'm not, like you are.

I'm a Zionist and proud to be one. The Jews have every right to have their own state in land that has been holy to them for over 3000 years. And to defend themselves against all those that seek to destroy them. Period, end of story.

I agree with you Roody...

Jews do have a right to have their own state and to defend themselves.

You see, we aren't so different.

I agree with you Roody...

Jews do have a right to have their own state and to defend themselves.

You see, we aren't so different.

No they don't.
No more so than Zoroastrians have a right to their own state, or devil worshippers, or Scientologists. That Zionists have mostly obtained one through killing and diplomatic manoeuvring is besides the point. They don't have a right to it. If it ended tomorrow they would not have a right to a state then either. If the UN never agreed to Israel being the cuckoo in the Levant it would likely never have happened, and for that the UN is particularly to blame.

Even Jews agree they should not be there with an exclusive state. Only a special type of person agreed they should. Zionists. Like Adolf Hitler and Theodor Herzl, and the bought and paid for US Congress.

Israel = Moonies with F16's.

All your Nazi braying won't change a thing. Israel will continue to exist and prosper while you and your ilk cough up blood every time you're reminded of it.
 
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