What makes you support one or the other?

[Beelzebub]

Ah.
You reveal yourself to be a damn liar.

I challenge you to prove it.

Who to?

In any case, you are a complete dildo. Here is the relevant proof, which I don't expect you for a second to acknowledge, because, you are the damned liar, referred to above.:

immigration to israel

Israel immigration policy is very strict.

If you are not Jewish (yourself, your parents or your grandparents), married to a Jew or an Israeli citizen / resident it will be almost impossible for you to obtain an Israeli citizenship.

"Israel’s Law of Return grants automatic citizenship to Jews, but non-Jews are also eligible to become citizens under naturalization procedures similar to those in other countries. Israel’s policy is not unique; many other countries, including Germany, Greece, Ireland and Finland have special categories of people who are entitled to citizenship.

More than one million Muslim and Christian Arabs, Druze, Baha’is, Circassians and other ethnic groups also are represented in Israel’s population. The presence in Israel of thousands of Jews from Ethiopia, Yemen and India is the best refutation of the calumny against Zionism. In a series of historic airlifts, labeled Operations Moses (1984), Joshua (1985) and Solomon (1991), Israel rescued more than 20,000 members of the ancient Ethiopian Jewish community."

Myths Facts Israel s Roots Chapter 1 Jewish Virtual Library

Demographics of Israel - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

See the website "to help foreigners apply for Israeli citizenship", duffus.

You do realize that Arabs base citizenship on parentage, right? Ha!

Speak with your mother.
Ask her what she would say if you could not do something, then used the argument "But Sally down the road does that."

She will help put your straight.

So ignore what others do, if they do bad stuff. It does not mean it is ok.
In any case, acquiring citizenship based on family citizenship is normal. Acquiring (and rejecting) citizenship based on false "racial" measures are not.

 

[TemplarKormac]

It doesn't begin to explain the reaction you would expect from the indigenous population to a malicious and malevolent invasion of Europeans who intend (and largely succeeded) in evicting those who had every natural right to the land and territory.

Sure, or it states the fact that the first six attacks and massacres were initiated by the Arabs. Let me remind you that Jews were the first inhabitants of the land of Israel, nearly 3700 years ago. Palestinians can only trace their ties to the land to the Conquests of Muhammad, a thousand years ago.

You are lying through your teeth.

 

[Spare_change]

Most people who support one or the other do so precisely because they do not understand the conflict and have no stake in it.

In reality, there is no good guy here; no black or white.

It's a brutal, cruel war that leaves most people who see it close up both respecting and feeling repulsed by both sides.

Spoken like someone who's never been there ...

 

[Beelzebub]

It doesn't begin to explain the reaction you would expect from the indigenous population to a malicious and malevolent invasion of Europeans who intend (and largely succeeded) in evicting those who had every natural right to the land and territory.

Sure, or it states the fact that the first six attacks and massacres were initiated by the Arabs. Let me remind you that Jews were the first inhabitants of the land of Israel, nearly 3700 years ago. Palestinians can only trace their ties to the land to the Conquests of Muhammad, a thousand years ago.

You are lying through your teeth.

Wrong again arsehole.
As has been adequately pointed out Hebrews were in the area around Moses arrival. Jews were not.

And buggering off for the best part of 2000 years then claiming any convert who became Jewish in that period has absentee ownership of the land is utter fantasy.

Here Endeth The Lesson.

 

[TemplarKormac]

It doesn't begin to explain the reaction you would expect from the indigenous population to a malicious and malevolent invasion of Europeans who intend (and largely succeeded) in evicting those who had every natural right to the land and territory.

Sure, or it states the fact that the first six attacks and massacres were initiated by the Arabs. Let me remind you that Jews were the first inhabitants of the land of Israel, nearly 3700 years ago. Palestinians can only trace their ties to the land to the Conquests of Muhammad, a thousand years ago.

You are lying through your teeth.

Wrong again arsehole.
As has been adequately pointed out Hebrews were in the area around Moses arrival. Jews were not.

And buggering off for the best part of 2000 years then claiming any convert who became Jewish in that period has absentee ownership of the land is utter fantasy.

Actually, Israel became a nation in 1444 B.C.E., 2,000 years before the rise of Islam. Since the Jewish conquest in 1272 B.C.E, the Jews had dominion over the land for one thousand years with a continuous presence in the land for the past 3,300 years. The only Arab domination since the conquest in 635 C.E. lasted no more than 22 years.

 

[Beelzebub]

It doesn't begin to explain the reaction you would expect from the indigenous population to a malicious and malevolent invasion of Europeans who intend (and largely succeeded) in evicting those who had every natural right to the land and territory.

Sure, or it states the fact that the first six attacks and massacres were initiated by the Arabs. Let me remind you that Jews were the first inhabitants of the land of Israel, nearly 3700 years ago. Palestinians can only trace their ties to the land to the Conquests of Muhammad, a thousand years ago.

You are lying through your teeth.

Wrong again arsehole.
As has been adequately pointed out Hebrews were in the area around Moses arrival. Jews were not.

And buggering off for the best part of 2000 years then claiming any convert who became Jewish in that period has absentee ownership of the land is utter fantasy.

Actually, Israel became a nation in 1444 B.C.E., 2,000 years before the rise of Islam. Since the Jewish conquest in 1272 B.C.E, the Jews had dominion over the land for one thousand years with a continuous presence in the land for the past 3,300 years. The only Arab domination since the conquest in 635 C.E. lasted no more than 22 years.

Very nice, though irrelevant.
Did you mom put you straight?

 

[Humanity]

Wow... Is there anyone over the age of 13 posting here?

With the exception of one or two how have posted here...

You are all a bunch of delinquent tossers!

 

[TemplarKormac]

As for Jews expelling Arabs from their land:

"Second, the villagers were told by the Arab leaders to leave. It apparently was a strategy of mass evacuation whether or not necessary as a military or public safety measure.

"They all left during one week," said the other lady. "Every morning there were more who had gone. Finally only a few of us were left behind. We were too old and feeble to go." There were tears in her eyes and her face had a weary look.

I expected to see a ghost town. But as we started down the main street of Ein Karem I heard singing.

New arrivals from Europe," Father Carrol said."


Full text of STRANGE LANDS AND FRINDLY PEOPLE

 

[TemplarKormac]

Wow... Is there anyone over the age of 13 posting here?

With the exception of one or two how have posted here...

You are all a bunch of delinquent tossers!

You're one to talk.

 

[Humanity]

Wow... Is there anyone over the age of 13 posting here?

With the exception of one or two how have posted here...

You are all a bunch of delinquent tossers!

You're one to talk.

Yes I am...

And?

 

[TemplarKormac]

Wow... Is there anyone over the age of 13 posting here?

With the exception of one or two how have posted here...

You are all a bunch of delinquent tossers!

You're one to talk.

Yes I am...

And?

And you try to project an aura of objectivity, whilst flying a Palestinian flag in your sig line...

 

[Humanity]

Wow... Is there anyone over the age of 13 posting here?

With the exception of one or two how have posted here...

You are all a bunch of delinquent tossers!

You're one to talk.

Yes I am...

And?

And you try to project an aura of objectivity, whilst flying a Palestinian flag in your sig line...

In the OP I made my stance very clear...

And?

 

[TemplarKormac]

Wow... Is there anyone over the age of 13 posting here?

With the exception of one or two how have posted here...

You are all a bunch of delinquent tossers!

You're one to talk.

Yes I am...

And?

And you try to project an aura of objectivity, whilst flying a Palestinian flag in your sig line...

In the OP I made my stance very clear...

And?

And your objective stance loses all credibility because of such.

"Free Palestine?" Just what is objective about that?

 

[Humanity]

Wow... Is there anyone over the age of 13 posting here?

With the exception of one or two how have posted here...

You are all a bunch of delinquent tossers!

You're one to talk.

Yes I am...

And?

And you try to project an aura of objectivity, whilst flying a Palestinian flag in your sig line...

In the OP I made my stance very clear...

And?

And your objective stance loses all credibility because of such.

"Free Palestine?" Just what is objective about that?

Did you read the title of the OP?

"What makes you support one or the other?"

Did you answer yet?

 

[TemplarKormac]

You're one to talk.

Yes I am...

And?

And you try to project an aura of objectivity, whilst flying a Palestinian flag in your sig line...

In the OP I made my stance very clear...

And?

And your objective stance loses all credibility because of such.

"Free Palestine?" Just what is objective about that?

Did you read the title of the OP?

"What makes you support one or the other?"

Did you answer yet?

I support Israel. You support Palestine, therefore, your "objectivity" falls flat on it's face.

 

[Humanity]

Yes I am...

And?

And you try to project an aura of objectivity, whilst flying a Palestinian flag in your sig line...

In the OP I made my stance very clear...

And?

And your objective stance loses all credibility because of such.

"Free Palestine?" Just what is objective about that?

Did you read the title of the OP?

"What makes you support one or the other?"

Did you answer yet?

I support Israel. You support Palestine, therefore, your "objectivity" falls flat on it's face.

But you didn't answer the question...

 

[toastman]

*yawn*

I know I have given you the lesson on dictionaries before Tossy, but it seems you fail that test once more and try to impose your own definitions.

I would love to waste my time by rubbing your nose in your idiocy again, but you are too insensible to notice. Just go find a good dictionary, and read through to delight yourself with uses of the words "invader" and "invasion" which don't fit your entirely limited requirements (and outlook).

As to your "yawn" RADA auditions, I don't know if you realise, but making an effort to insert a description of what you are doing does nothing to indicate boredom. Only desperation to pretend you are suffering from boredom. Why do you work so hard to try to deceive Tossy?
Are you just not willing to deal with Israel as the tyrannical gangster state that it is?

Get a grip mate. Get a grip.

All this jibberish, even though you are the one who failed by accusing me of making up my own definitions. All you're doing is proving to everyone here thay you are no too bright.
Don't feel ashamed though, because as stupid as you are, thre are still posters here dumber than you.
BTW, this obsession you have with me is....kinda erie. You're a weirdo Weezle

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Wow... Is there anyone over the age of 13 posting here?

Whew -- you got in just under the wire, there.

Congrats!

 

[toastman]

It doesn't begin to explain the reaction you would expect from the indigenous population to a malicious and malevolent invasion of Europeans who intend (and largely succeeded) in evicting those who had every natural right to the land and territory.

Sure, or it states the fact that the first six attacks and massacres were initiated by the Arabs. Let me remind you that Jews were the first inhabitants of the land of Israel, nearly 3700 years ago. Palestinians can only trace their ties to the land to the Conquests of Muhammad, a thousand years ago.

You are lying through your teeth.

Yes, Weezle boy does lie quite often. BTW, I'm on my phone now, so if you can post the link for Safed Massacre and Safed pogrom, As they pre date the incidents in your links.

 

[teddyearp]

As to 'credibility' ... you who came here pretending you were 'neutral' on the I/P topic, then we find not only do you argue for the manifest fascism of Israel's occupation and murders, but you are professionally employed to send tourists to Israel to help bolster their theft-and-handout-based economy.

You began with no credibility, and have reduced it since.

This is not the subject of this thread, forgive me Humanity, but I don't know where else to answer this.

Beezlebub, I came here with neutrality and still attempt to maintain it, however after seeing posts like yours and those who post like you I have found it hard to maintain when all the links and searches I have done as a result of info posted by some of you have led me into lies, half-truths, and 'conspiracy' theories; and being accused of being professionally employed to post as I do just bolsters my beliefs. That is my 'Cliff Notes' version.