Jewish race, Jewish State, where did this Jewish race start and what country ?

[Penelope]

Now since Jew is a race, what is their native country and if its Israel how can they call Israel a Jewish state. That would be racist. A Jew is from only one tribe of Jacob and Jacob was not a Jew, he was a Hebrew. He did not practice Judaism nor the law of Moses. How can all Israelites be said to be Jews and how could all Israelites be from Judea?

Who are the Jews?

 

[Daniyel]

Wrong, the origin is 12 tribes(sons of Jacob named the Israelites following Jacobs second name Israel)
All the tribes had their land and unique features, Google the map of the 12 tribes, and again I'm wondering what is this has to do with the conflict?

 

[Penelope]

Wrong, the origin is 12 tribes(sons of Jacob named the Israelites following Jacobs second name Israel)
All the tribes had their land and unique features, Google the map of the 12 tribes, and again I'm wondering what is this has to do with the conflict?

yes but the Israelites were not Jews. It has everything to do with the conflict. Why should the PLO recognize Israel as a Jewish State??

 

[Daniyel]

The Israelites were the very first Jews, the name Jew comes from Judaism the Israelites recognized by, according to Judaism there is a unique genetic heritage which is why being Jew is also by race and religion.
Jews addressed by non Jews as both religion and race, you can find Christian Jew and Arab Jew.
But Jews always married Jews by religion reasons and remained Jewish - the descendants of Jacob the first Israelite and third Jew.

Again how is that related to the conflict?

 

[Roudy]

Now since Jew is a race, what is their native country and if its Israel how can they call Israel a Jewish state. That would be racist. A Jew is from only one tribe of Jacob and Jacob was not a Jew, he was a Hebrew. He did not practice Judaism nor the law of Moses. How can all Israelites be said to be Jews and how could all Israelites be from Judea?

Who are the Jews?

Well, lets start eliminating for starters. A "Jew" is for sure not an Arab practicing Islam.

 

[pbel]

The Israelites were the very first Jews, the name Jew comes from Judaism the Israelites recognized by, according to Judaism there is a unique genetic heritage which is why being Jew is also by race and religion.
Jews addressed by non Jews as both religion and race, you can find Christian Jew and Arab Jew.
But Jews always married Jews by religion reasons and remained Jewish - the descendants of Jacob the first Israelite and third Jew.

Again how is that related to the conflict?

The Palestinians have been shown to be Genetically closer to the ancient Israelites than the present Israeli population...In a sense the present Jews of Israel are killing their ancestors.

 

[Coyote]

Now since Jew is a race, what is their native country and if its Israel how can they call Israel a Jewish state. That would be racist. A Jew is from only one tribe of Jacob and Jacob was not a Jew, he was a Hebrew. He did not practice Judaism nor the law of Moses. How can all Israelites be said to be Jews and how could all Israelites be from Judea?

Who are the Jews?

People.

 

[Roudy]

The Israelites were the very first Jews, the name Jew comes from Judaism the Israelites recognized by, according to Judaism there is a unique genetic heritage which is why being Jew is also by race and religion.
Jews addressed by non Jews as both religion and race, you can find Christian Jew and Arab Jew.
But Jews always married Jews by religion reasons and remained Jewish - the descendants of Jacob the first Israelite and third Jew.

Again how is that related to the conflict?

It's just another lame attempt at discrediting the Jewish state by questioning the "Jewishness" of it's Jews. It's been tried a million times by Jew haters.

 

[Coyote]

The Israelites were the very first Jews, the name Jew comes from Judaism the Israelites recognized by, according to Judaism there is a unique genetic heritage which is why being Jew is also by race and religion.
Jews addressed by non Jews as both religion and race, you can find Christian Jew and Arab Jew.
But Jews always married Jews by religion reasons and remained Jewish - the descendants of Jacob the first Israelite and third Jew.

Again how is that related to the conflict?

It isn't. It's just yet another argument in ancient history trying to delegitimize one side or the other as not being a real "people" and has no application to the realities today.

 

[Roudy]

The Israelites were the very first Jews, the name Jew comes from Judaism the Israelites recognized by, according to Judaism there is a unique genetic heritage which is why being Jew is also by race and religion.
Jews addressed by non Jews as both religion and race, you can find Christian Jew and Arab Jew.
But Jews always married Jews by religion reasons and remained Jewish - the descendants of Jacob the first Israelite and third Jew.

Again how is that related to the conflict?

The Palestinians have been shown to be Genetically closer to the ancient Israelites than the present Israeli population...In a sense the present Jews of Israel are killing their ancestors.

Considering that a majority of Israelis are either Sephardic or descendants of, that simply cannot be possible. Try again.

 

[Penelope]

The Israelites, Jacobs kids by 2 wife's and their handmaidens, 4 women were not Jews, Jews is not a race and a religion. Its one or the other, how can it be both. And how can Israelites born of Jacob be Jew when he was not a Jew but a Hebrew. You are really messed up.

Who are the Palestinians is relevant, so who are the Jews are relevant to the conflict. The Israelites spent 400 years in Egypt, and according to EZRA there was intermarriage. So how do you expect the PLO to agree to Israel as a Jewish state? Why wouldn't your state then be called Jew? What is and who are Jews?

 

[teddyearp]

This thread=

 

[Daniyel]

The Israelites were the very first Jews, the name Jew comes from Judaism the Israelites recognized by, according to Judaism there is a unique genetic heritage which is why being Jew is also by race and religion.
Jews addressed by non Jews as both religion and race, you can find Christian Jew and Arab Jew.
But Jews always married Jews by religion reasons and remained Jewish - the descendants of Jacob the first Israelite and third Jew.

Again how is that related to the conflict?

The Palestinians have been shown to be Genetically closer to the ancient Israelites than the present Israeli population...In a sense the present Jews of Israel are killing their ancestors.

This is simple, Abraham had two sons, one named Isaac (Itzhak) and the other Ishmael, Ishmael is the first Arab? later on the Koran define Ishmael as the true descendant and distinguish the children of Israel(and Isaac the father of Jacob/Israel) although we all considered the sons of Abraham, but the link to the Arabs is closer, not Palestinian in specific which are basically - Arab(originally from neighboring countries).
Thing is the Palestinians can't be genetically closer and in fact nobody does simply because only Jews maintain the genetic line which is why only Jews can share the same genes with the Israelites.
This is a very interesting matter but I don't want to dive into it because it never ends, anyway I assume this is not related to the conflict so see this as my last post on the thread.

 

[Roudy]

The Israelites, Jacobs kids by 2 wife's and their handmaidens, 4 women were not Jews, Jews is not a race and a religion. Its one or the other, how can it be both. And how can Israelites born of Jacob be Jew when he was not a Jew but a Hebrew. You are really messed up.

Who are the Palestinians is relevant, so who are the Jews are relevant to the conflict. The Israelites spent 400 years in Egypt, and according to EZRA there was intermarriage. So how do you expect the PLO to agree to Israel as a Jewish state? Why wouldn't your state then be called Jew? What is and who are Jews?

Okay so no such thing as Jews exist today, they're all fake and have nothing to do with the ancient Jews.

The Muslim Arabs, on the other hand, to borrow from "replacement theologists", are the real Jews.

Yup, those Arabic speaking people who practice Islam and don't have the first clue about Jews, Israel, Judaism, Jewish culture, civilization, and heritage.

 

[Roudy]

Well, how about Mohammad, who made himself a direct descendant of Ishmael, son of Abraham? How exactly did this illiterate Saudi Arabian terrorist thief know that about 2500 years after Abraham? Inquiring minds want to know. Did he have access to Find Ancestors Ancestry Search Find My Ancestors Genealogy Search back then?

 

[Penelope]

The Israelites were the very first Jews, the name Jew comes from Judaism the Israelites recognized by, according to Judaism there is a unique genetic heritage which is why being Jew is also by race and religion.
Jews addressed by non Jews as both religion and race, you can find Christian Jew and Arab Jew.
But Jews always married Jews by religion reasons and remained Jewish - the descendants of Jacob the first Israelite and third Jew.

Again how is that related to the conflict?

The Palestinians have been shown to be Genetically closer to the ancient Israelites than the present Israeli population...In a sense the present Jews of Israel are killing their ancestors.

This is simple, Abraham had two sons, one named Isaac (Itzhak) and the other Ishmael, Ishmael is the first Arab? later on the Koran define Ishmael as the true descendant and distinguish the children of Israel(and Isaac the father of Jacob/Israel) although we all considered the sons of Abraham, but the link to the Arabs is closer, not Palestinian in specific which are basically - Arab(originally from neighboring countries).
Thing is the Palestinians can't be genetically closer and in fact nobody does simply because only Jews maintain the genetic line which is why only Jews can share the same genes with the Israelites.
This is a very interesting matter but I don't want to dive into it because it never ends, anyway I assume this is not related to the conflict so see this as my last post on the thread.

which is why only Jews can share the same genes with the Israelites.

so you admit, jews and Israelites are not the same? Unreal, only Jews can share the same genes with the Israelites, read your book, EZRA, they intermarried. The men had children with whoever. They all became idolizers during the era of Solomon.

 

[Roudy]

The Israelites were the very first Jews, the name Jew comes from Judaism the Israelites recognized by, according to Judaism there is a unique genetic heritage which is why being Jew is also by race and religion.
Jews addressed by non Jews as both religion and race, you can find Christian Jew and Arab Jew.
But Jews always married Jews by religion reasons and remained Jewish - the descendants of Jacob the first Israelite and third Jew.

Again how is that related to the conflict?

The Palestinians have been shown to be Genetically closer to the ancient Israelites than the present Israeli population...In a sense the present Jews of Israel are killing their ancestors.

This is simple, Abraham had two sons, one named Isaac (Itzhak) and the other Ishmael, Ishmael is the first Arab? later on the Koran define Ishmael as the true descendant and distinguish the children of Israel(and Isaac the father of Jacob/Israel) although we all considered the sons of Abraham, but the link to the Arabs is closer, not Palestinian in specific which are basically - Arab(originally from neighboring countries).
Thing is the Palestinians can't be genetically closer and in fact nobody does simply because only Jews maintain the genetic line which is why only Jews can share the same genes with the Israelites.
This is a very interesting matter but I don't want to dive into it because it never ends, anyway I assume this is not related to the conflict so see this as my last post on the thread.

which is why only Jews can share the same genes with the Israelites.

so you admit, jews and Israelites are not the same? Unreal, only Jews can share the same genes with the Israelites, read your book, EZRA, they intermarried. The men had children with whoever. They all became idolizers during the era of Solomon.

Hah? Is this like garbage IslamoNazi theory du jour? Can you add some pepper to mine please?

 

[RoshanNair]

The Israelites were the very first Jews, the name Jew comes from Judaism the Israelites recognized by, according to Judaism there is a unique genetic heritage which is why being Jew is also by race and religion.
Jews addressed by non Jews as both religion and race, you can find Christian Jew and Arab Jew.
But Jews always married Jews by religion reasons and remained Jewish - the descendants of Jacob the first Israelite and third Jew.

Again how is that related to the conflict?

The Palestinians have been shown to be Genetically closer to the ancient Israelites than the present Israeli population...In a sense the present Jews of Israel are killing their ancestors.

This is simple, Abraham had two sons, one named Isaac (Itzhak) and the other Ishmael, Ishmael is the first Arab? later on the Koran define Ishmael as the true descendant and distinguish the children of Israel(and Isaac the father of Jacob/Israel) although we all considered the sons of Abraham, but the link to the Arabs is closer, not Palestinian in specific which are basically - Arab(originally from neighboring countries).
Thing is the Palestinians can't be genetically closer and in fact nobody does simply because only Jews maintain the genetic line which is why only Jews can share the same genes with the Israelites.
This is a very interesting matter but I don't want to dive into it because it never ends, anyway I assume this is not related to the conflict so see this as my last post on the thread.

which is why only Jews can share the same genes with the Israelites.

They all became idolizers during the era of Solomon.

Who did they "idolize"?

 

[Penelope]

The Israelites were the very first Jews, the name Jew comes from Judaism the Israelites recognized by, according to Judaism there is a unique genetic heritage which is why being Jew is also by race and religion.
Jews addressed by non Jews as both religion and race, you can find Christian Jew and Arab Jew.
But Jews always married Jews by religion reasons and remained Jewish - the descendants of Jacob the first Israelite and third Jew.

Again how is that related to the conflict?

The Palestinians have been shown to be Genetically closer to the ancient Israelites than the present Israeli population...In a sense the present Jews of Israel are killing their ancestors.

This is simple, Abraham had two sons, one named Isaac (Itzhak) and the other Ishmael, Ishmael is the first Arab? later on the Koran define Ishmael as the true descendant and distinguish the children of Israel(and Isaac the father of Jacob/Israel) although we all considered the sons of Abraham, but the link to the Arabs is closer, not Palestinian in specific which are basically - Arab(originally from neighboring countries).
Thing is the Palestinians can't be genetically closer and in fact nobody does simply because only Jews maintain the genetic line which is why only Jews can share the same genes with the Israelites.
This is a very interesting matter but I don't want to dive into it because it never ends, anyway I assume this is not related to the conflict so see this as my last post on the thread.

which is why only Jews can share the same genes with the Israelites.

They all became idolizers during the era of Solomon.

Who did they "idolize"?

You should know this being a jew.

 

[Beelzebub]

The Israelites were the very first Jews, the name Jew comes from Judaism the Israelites recognized by, according to Judaism there is a unique genetic heritage which is why being Jew is also by race and religion.
Jews addressed by non Jews as both religion and race, you can find Christian Jew and Arab Jew.
But Jews always married Jews by religion reasons and remained Jewish - the descendants of Jacob the first Israelite and third Jew.

Again how is that related to the conflict?

The Palestinians have been shown to be Genetically closer to the ancient Israelites than the present Israeli population...In a sense the present Jews of Israel are killing their ancestors.

This is simple, Abraham had two sons, one named Isaac (Itzhak) and the other Ishmael, Ishmael is the first Arab? later on the Koran define Ishmael as the true descendant and distinguish the children of Israel(and Isaac the father of Jacob/Israel) although we all considered the sons of Abraham, but the link to the Arabs is closer, not Palestinian in specific which are basically - Arab(originally from neighboring countries).
Thing is the Palestinians can't be genetically closer and in fact nobody does simply because only Jews maintain the genetic line which is why only Jews can share the same genes with the Israelites.
This is a very interesting matter but I don't want to dive into it because it never ends, anyway I assume this is not related to the conflict so see this as my last post on the thread.

which is why only Jews can share the same genes with the Israelites.

They all became idolizers during the era of Solomon.

Who did they "idolize"?

Simon Cowell.