What made you dislike Trump?

I can't think of anything Trump has ACTUALLY done that even remotely compares to the liberal Democrats supporting race riots and civil unrest for months.
That's funny, I'm a liberal democrat and I can't think of one liberal democrat that supports riots or violence of any kind (aggravation, perhaps with some, but not violence), but, come to think of it, we have Trump on tape adoring violence, on numerous occasions:


And then the Dems are concerned with the singular event of Jan 6th that lasted 3 hours with one PROTESTER shot dead by DC cops. I am like: What did I miss?
You missed,

Trump's continuous incendiary acts, comments, mentions, speeches, covering over a period of many months, of which the predominant message was 'democrats stole the election' and that lie began before the first ballot was cast, inculcated in the minds and hearts of his follows long and hard, to such an extent, that it caused a welling up of what can rightfully be characterized as a juggernaut of rage, erupting in volcanic fashion on 1/6, resulting in several deaths and millions of worth of property damaged, some property stolen, and trespassing of the offices of congresspersons and senators and the terrorizing of persons thereby, and the delay of several hours of the constitutional proceedings.

President Trump is practically, and morally responsible for provoking the events of the day [Jan 6], no question about it. The people that stormed this building believed they were acting on the wishes and instructions of their President. And, having that belief was a foreseeable consequence of the growing crescendo of false statements, conspiracy theories, and reckless hypole, which the defeated President kept shouting into the largest megaphone on planet earth. --Mitch McConnell


And what were those false statements, conspiracy theories and reckless hyperbole? They were the falsehoods that Trump repeated over and over and over again at every rally, using the 'largest megaphone on planet earth' that DEMOCRATS STOLE THE ELECTION, and he stated it many months prior to the first ballot being cast which culminated in a juggernaut of rage the direct and foreseeable result of which was the attack on the capitol building.

"A mob was assaulting the capitol in HIS name, these criminals were carrying HIS banners, hanging on HIS lies, and screaming their loyalty to HIM....."

...Mitch McConnell, Senate Minority Leader

Moreover, 'inciting a riot' is not the primary issue -- It's not just the attack on the capitol, it's the overall scheme as laid out in the Eastman Memo/Navarro 'greenbay sweep' . It started when Trump declared that 'Democrats stole the election" long before the first ballot was cast, which caused a juggernaut of rage which led to the attack. It's about the fake electors, it's about the massive plan ot object to certification in the key states and to get Pence to (unconstitutionally) REMAND the objected to votes back to the states in the join session in order to delay overall certification long enough to throw the vote for prez to the house, where republicans had a two state majority in the state's delegations (aka "a contested election"). It's about Trump, and his co-conspirators, Bannon, Flynn, Giuliani, Eastman, Clark, at al, who executed this plan, it's about a conspiracy to prevent the peaceful transfer of power and delay the Joint Session of Congress in such a way as to force a house vote for president, noting that Republicans have a two state advantage. It's about the veritable coup Trump and his cohorts engaged in a conspiracy to overturn the election.

THAT is what Special Counsel Jack Smith's investigation is about (in addition to the obstruction related to stolen documents for which Ty Cobb, Trump's former lawyer stated 'Trump is going to jail').

THAT is what Trump has ACTUALLY DONE that you are missing. my dear MaryL.


Now, MaryL, repeat after me:

Trump is a sex abuser, conman, fraudster, criminal
who loves Putin, the 'poorly educated', not to mention
that he despises democracy and has betrayed America

Trump org, indicted
Trump CFO, in prison
Trump campaign mgr., convicted.
Trump, 34 felony counts in NYC
Trump, sued for $250 million in NY.
Trump, found liable for sex abuse and defamation, must pay $5 million
Trump, asserted that because he is a 'star' he is entitled to grab women by their genitals without consent.
Trump, asserted that if Ivanka were not his daughter he'd be dating her.

Trump, being investigated for obstruction relating to the theft of national defense information documents
Trump, being investigated for election fraud in GA
Trump, being investigation for crimes related to Jan 6 attack, Jan 6 attempt to overturn the election by delaying the joint session fo congress.
Trump, settled for $25 million having scammed thousands out of millions in a fake university scam
Trump, fornicated with a porn star just after his newly wed wife gave birth and committed election fraud by paying her $130k hush money, then threw his long time dedicated lawyer under the bus who went to jail for HIS crime.
Trump charity, shut down for 'illegal activity' Trump fined $2 million.

Got it? Can you possibly understand why someone (such as I) hold Trump in utter contempt as a despicable human being unworthy of the Office Of the Presidency?

Humbly Tendered,
Rumpole
 
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You actually have 1 snippet right finally, Rumpfuck.

"Trump declared that 'Democrats stole the election" long before the first ballot was cast,"


We all saw the way that mail-in-ballot handing was being changed, without legally changing the way mail-in-ballots were going to be handled, prior to the first ballot being counted.

The fraud was - open and right out in the public.
Of course, President Trump objected, as did all thinking people.
 
His inaugural crowd was larger than Obama's. Injecting Lysol into your veins will cure you of covid. He won the election. I can go on! He told over 10,000 lies while in office. There is nothing that comes out of that piece of shit human, that is not a lie!

This fucker is a cancer to the planet!

It would be nice if it took people like you.
 
his views on those who served in the military...calling them losers..his mocking the handicap..the list goes on and on
his affairs ..his cheating of illegals who worked for him in nyc...his cheating a childrens charity...his scam university...
 
The failed covid response that killed 500,000 people.

...

Crashing the economy.

What he did to get himself impeached.

Actually, it was Fauci who goofed on covid and Trump had it right.
Fauci claimed covid had a 1.0% lethality, and now with more testing we know most are asymptomatic and lethality is more like 0.02%.
That means "flatting the curve" was totally wrong, prevented herd immunity, and kept the epidemic around 3 years, maximizing the number killed.
At 30k deaths/month, after 36 months you get over 1 million dead.
Trump suggested we let it pass as we do with flu, and then it could have been over in 2 months, with only 60k deaths.

It was Bush who started the recession, and Fauci who made it worse with lockdowns.
Trump gets no economic blame.

The impeachments were insanely criminal.
Nothing Trump did was remotely illegal.
What is illegal is we still have not yet investigated Burisma Holdings.
That is a crime.
 
On covid, he was awful and would not shut up. That is what cost him.

I disagree Trump was awful on covid.
The scientific fact is once an epidemic has breached quarantine as covid did, you do NOT want to "flatten the curve".
That does not help at all, but instead slows down achieving herd immunity, allowing the epidemic to be far worse than it would have been otherwise.
Normal epidemics like that are 2 months.
We artificially kept it going for 36 months.
 
Now, MaryL, repeat after me:

Trump is a sex abuser, conman, fraudster, criminal
who loves Putin, the 'poorly educated', not to mention
that he despises democracy and has betrayed America

Trump org, indicted
Trump CFO, in prison
Trump campaign mgr., convicted.
Trump, 34 felony counts in NYC
Trump, sued for $250 million in NY.
Trump, found liable for sex abuse and defamation, must pay $5 million
Trump, asserted that because he is a 'star' he is entitled to grab women by their genitals without consent.
Trump, asserted that if Ivanka were not his daughter he'd be dating her.

Trump, being investigated for obstruction relating to the theft of national defense information documents

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Most of those are reasons to vote FOR Trump,
All politicians are sex abusers, conmen, fraudster, criminals, etc.
For example, the Clintons.
That is not why you do not vote for them.

Loving Putin is a reason to vote for Trump, since clearly Putin is one of the most honorable men ruling the world. By rights he should have invaded the Ukraine right after they committed illegal acts of war, but he waited almost a decade, trying to negotiate a compromise, until Kyiv finally cut off all negotiations.

The most obvious act of treason is the abuse against Trump, like the illegal impeachments, the illegal Mar-a-lago search, etc.
It is clear both impeachments were lies, and that all presidents and VPs are totally above any classified doc laws.

The recent Carroll case also greatly strengthens the case FOR Trump, as it is ridiculous to even allow a sexual assault claim 30 year after the fact, when a woman volunteers to model lingerie in a private dressing room.
 
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Most of those are reasons to vote FOR Trump,
All politicians are sex abusers, conmen, fraudster, criminals, etc.
For example, the Clintons.
That is not why you do not vote for them.
So that Trump is all these things is the reason to vote for him, but you are saying since the Clintons
are all those things and that is the reason not to vote for them? You just contradicted yourself.
Loving Putin is a reason to vote for Trump, since clearly Putin is one of the most honorable men ruling the world. By rights he should have invaded the Ukraine right after they committed illegal acts of war, but he waited almost a decade, trying to negotiate a compromise, until Kyiv finally cut off all negotiations.

The most obvious act of treason is the abuse against Trump, like the illegal impeachments, the illegal Mar-a-lago search, etc.
It is clear both impeachments were lies, and that all presidents and VPs are totally above any classified doc laws.

The recent Carroll case also greatly strengthens the case FOR Trump, as it is ridiculous to even allow a sexual assault claim 30 year after the fact, when a woman volunteers to model lingerie in a private dressing room.


Drivel.

You live in a bizarro world. You're a sick puppy. You're fucking evil.

Or, you are just being sarcastic, which, if that is the case, you are excused.
 
Actually, it was Fauci who goofed on covid and Trump had it right.
Fauci claimed covid had a 1.0% lethality, and now with more testing we know most are asymptomatic and lethality is more like 0.02%.
That means "flatting the curve" was totally wrong, prevented herd immunity, and kept the epidemic around 3 years, maximizing the number killed.
At 30k deaths/month, after 36 months you get over 1 million dead.
Trump suggested we let it pass as we do with flu, and then it could have been over in 2 months, with only 60k deaths.

It was Bush who started the recession, and Fauci who made it worse with lockdowns.
Trump gets no economic blame.

The impeachments were insanely criminal.
Nothing Trump did was remotely illegal.
What is illegal is we still have not yet investigated Burisma Holdings.
That is a crime.

"The feds are coming for Trump, he is going to jail"---former Trump Lawyer, Ty Cobb
 
I saw something on TV that looked so right! It was Donald Trump sitting at the defendants table during his arraignment hearing with two uniform bailiffs standing behind him. It looked so right! Like any minute and they would ask him to stand up and put his hands on his head!

Wow, that would've been great if they arrested that piece of shit!
 
This thread is about Trump but............................

Obama on Mass Government Surveillance, Then and Now | FRONTLINE


Yes, everyone had difficulty with that one but on the other hand, these people were terrorists and had joined up with America’s enemies, so I don’t have a lot of sympathy for them.

If the police were using drones to take out drug dealers in the inner city, you be cheering their efforts.
 

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