What is 'Zionism'?

[PeterPilot]

And they turned an arid wasteland into a thriving modern state.

...that kills others and takes their land. A modern state that snipes children and women and considers itself racially superior to all others.

 

[PeterPilot]

In absolutely no way. You’re quite retarded.

No. It isn’t. You’re just repeating your insidious error in a slightly different way.

You’re too stupid to breathe.

Yet I'm still breathing.

 

[Lisa558]

...that kills others and takes their land. A modern state that snipes children and women and considers itself racially superior to all others.

Your Jew-hate is showing.

 

[PeterPilot]

Your Jew-hate is showing.

I don't hate Jews. I simply observe the historical and contemporary record of facts showing the behavior and attitudes of Zionists.

 

[TNHarley]

Your Jew-hate is showing.

Its jew hate because he is against the killing of innocent kids?
Do you even realize what you sound like? Holy crap!

 

[Lisa558]

I don't hate Jews. I simply observe the historical and contemporary record of facts showing the behavior and attitudes of Zionists.

Almost all Jews are Zionists. You’re not fooling anyone.

What about the land the Muslims stole from the Jews? 850,000 Jews were driven off their land throughout the Middle East.

Funny you don’t have a problem with THAT.

 

[Godboy]

An israeli cultist that loves israeli propaganda, doesnt know what "zionism" is lol. Wow

Zionism - Meaning, Definition & Religious | HISTORY

Zionism is a religious and political movement that brought Jews to their ancient homeland and reestablished Israel as...

www.history.com

Try reading something.

Im all for that ^. Im not jewish, but it sounds like a fun project. They have my backing AND the backing of the United States to do this. If anyone doesnt like it, i guess they can try to stop us, but im doubtful they will succeed..

 

[Lisa558]

So in all of these discussions surrounding Israel with our local conspiracy theorists that hide behind 'Zionism' to spew their hate on Jews, I have yet to get one single definition of what exactly it is. So now is your chance to explain how a 'Zionist' differs from a Jew in their thoughts and beliefs and why it is 'evil'. Please also show evidence of what you say. One of our board conspiracy theorists, Mr. Beale, posted a link to an article where in the article they state that there isn't a definitive agreement on what Zionism is. I think if you're going to throw that term around as a reason for your animosity towards Jews or Israel, then you should be willing to define what it means to you.

Most US Jews do not identify as ‘Zionists,’ even when they support Israel, JFNA survey finds - Jewish Telegraphic Agency


From the article:

The findings of the survey reveal that American Jews do not have a mutually agreed-upon definition of Zionism — with those identifying as anti-Zionist and those identifying as Zionist ascribing sharply different meanings to the term.

What scares me is that an antisemitic anti-Israel conspiracy theorists, Mr, Beale, was at one time a mod of this forum. Makes you wonder how many current mods share his bigotry and allow it to impact their mod decisions.

 

[PeterPilot]

Almost all Jews are Zionists. You’re not fooling anyone.

What about the land the Muslims stole from the Jews? 850,000 Jews were driven off their land throughout the Middle East.

Funny you don’t have a problem with THAT.

Jeffrey Sachs, Glenn Greenwald, Daniel Ellsberg, Russ Feingold, Albert Einstein, Hannah Arendt, Ilana Mercer and a boatload of others who know Moloch when they see it.

 

[OldFlame]

I don't hate Jews. I simply observe the historical and contemporary record of facts showing the behavior and attitudes of Zionists.

If you were observing, you'd see that Israel has not expanded since its latest inception in 1948, so you have nothing but lies regarding 'Zionism', which you conveniently never defined because you're a coward.

 

[Lisa558]

Jeffrey Sachs, Glenn Greenwald, Daniel Ellsberg, Russ Feingold, Albert Einstein, Hannah Arendt, Ilana Mercer and a boatload of others who know Moloch when they see it.

So a few more leftist Jews?

And you didn’t answer why you don’t mention how Muslims stole the land of 850,000 Jews and drove them out of a dozen Middle East countries.

Neither in fact do you describe a TRUE cruel and barbaric country - Iran - that murdered 50,000 of its own citizens, and has paid for Islamic savages to conduct terrorist attacks for years.

You’re only focused on talking shit about Da Jooz.

(I really wish this board hadn’t become Propaganda Central for European Islamists.)

 

[TNHarley]

If you were observing, you'd see that Israel has not expanded since its latest inception in 1948, so you have nothing but lies regarding 'Zionism', which you conveniently never defined because you're a coward.

They are in lebanon right now.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

I said give your land to an indian, then we can talk. Until then, just drop it. Because I dont argue with hypocrisy.

What utter nonsense. You repeat the dishonest framing device of Islamists while ignoring actual history, and do so because you just go with the simplified views of the majority in order to assail the minority.

For starters, Jews have an uninterrupted presence for over three millennia, predating the invention of Islam by 1500 years and the invention of these "Palestinian" people by at least 3000 years. In addition, they purchased the land from those who owned it. Good grief, use your brain, boy -- what kind of word do you think Jerusalem is, anyway?

Some example of libertarian you are. You throw in your lot with the least libertarian creatures the gene pool can possibly vomit forth and repeat all their crap without so much as a single thought.

Is a world living under the jackboot of Islamofascism REALLY what you want, son?

 

[TimFitz]

I was introduced to Zionism by a Zionist when I was in college.

He told me about the “Greater Israel” idea.

Beyond that, I don’t know much about Zionism, and won’t comment beyond the experience I just shared.

 

[TNHarley]

What utter nonsense. You repeat the dishonest framing device of Islamists while ignoring actual history, and do so because you just go with the simplified views of the majority in order to assail the minority.

For starters, Jews have an uninterrupted presence for over three millennia, predating the invention of Islam by 1500 years and the invention of these "Palestinian" people by at least 3000 years. In addition, they purchased the land from those who owned it. Good grief, use your brain, boy -- what kind of word do you think Jerusalem is, anyway?

Some example of libertarian you are. You throw in your lot with the least libertarian creatures the gene pool can possibly vomit forth and repeat all their crap without so much as a single thought.

Is a world living under the jackboot of Islamofascism REALLY what you want, son?

Goddamn dude. Did nuttyyahoo write that for you?
I am well aware of the history.
And I find it funny you think its fine to trash islamists for reasons, but not jews. Just more hypocrisy.
They displaced 100s of thousands of people. Maybe YOU need to look at history.
Im not a libertarian, boy.

The Blogs: DNA Doesn’t Lie: What Genetic Ancestry Tells Us About the Palestinian Question

From the blog of Vincent James Hooper at The Times of Israel

blogs.timesofisrael.com

Fun reading. But im sure the times of israel and the hebrew university of jerusalem is antisemitic.
You are just an antiislamist.
See how dumb that is?

 

[Robert W]

Against the advice of Albert Einstein, Hannah Arendt and a number of other conscientious Jews of the time in 1948, Israel was granted statehood status in 1948.

Einstein has been proved right by the passage of time. The Israeli State is belligerent and cruel, murderous and covetous.

 

[Robert W]

You said where they want. What if they wanted your house?

I defined it for you.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Almost all Jews are Zionists. You’re not fooling anyone.

What about the land the Muslims stole from the Jews? 850,000 Jews were driven off their land throughout the Middle East.

Funny you don’t have a problem with THAT.

I would have thought that all Jews..at least the religious ones--were 'Zionists'?

L'shana haba'ah b'Yerushalayim

Next Year in Jerusalem, right?

 

[Lisa558]

I would have thought that all Jews..at least the religious ones--were 'Zionists'?

L'shana haba'ah b'Yerushalayim

Next Year in Jerusalem, right?

Much more than just the religious ones - almost 90% of all Jews support the right of Israel to exist. That would include the secular Jews.

And yes, “Next Year in Jerusalem”!

 

[Dogmaphobe]

I would have thought that all Jews..at least the religious ones--were 'Zionists'?

L'shana haba'ah b'Yerushalayim

Next Year in Jerusalem, right?

About the only ones who aren't are the extremely religious. Look up Neturei Karta for an example.