What Is Trump's Problem With DeSantis?

[JoeMoma]

You know I honestly don't get it. I know that they both love America but Trump seems to be putting Trump first lately and ignoring his signature line of putting America first and DeSantis definitely could get the job done just as well.

Trump sees DeSantis as a rival for the presidency in 2024, so Trump is trying to take him out. If DeSantis is taken out of contention, then Trump will gladly welcome him back as long as DeSantis sings Trump praise.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I agree functionally, but technically this isn't quite true. Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates can be from the same state.

Let me explain. The 12th Amendment says "The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; ... "

The limitation is on how the Electoral College electors from that 1 state (being the same for electors and candidates) can vote. They can vote for one or the other candidate but they cannot cast their vote for BOTH candidates.

So in 2024 Florida has 30 Electoral College votes. Once the election is held they meet in the state capital on December 14th to official cast the votes that are transmitted to Congress. The EC electors could cast their 30 votes for Trump as President, but then they could not cast votes for DeSantis as Vice President.

What isn't clear, since it's never happened before is how are the EC votes then counted by Congress. There are 538 electors casting vote meaning normally 270 wins the race. If 30 votes are - for one office or the other - aren't counted. Does the threshold remain 270 to win or does it become 255? That I'm not sure of, and I'm not sure if anyone really know.
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If there were to be a Trump/DeSantis ticket it will be a hoot to see how they address the issue. When there was a Bush/Chaney ticket, both from Texas, Chaney moved to Wyoming to evade just such a problem.

If there were to be a Trump/DeSantis ticket would:

• Trump move out of Florida and establish a new residence somewhere else? (I don't see this happening due to ego.)
• Would DeSantis resign as the Florida Governor and move to a new state? (I don't see this happening either, as it will make him a laughing stock.)
• Will they both stay in the same state and one or the other taking a hit on the EC vote count? (Given how close elections are now, this won't happen. Why? Because Trump could end up with a DEM VP.)

Personally I don't think there will be a Trump/DeSantis ticket. Trump wouldn't take the VP slot, nor do I think DeSantis will. DeSantis taking the VP slot make him subordinate to Trump and that is a measurement that DeSantis will not allow.

WW

Come on. WW! At least spell his name correctly. It is "Cheney"!

 

[WorldWatcher]

Come on. WW! At least spell his name correctly. It is "Cheney"!

: SHRUG :

Apologies, I don't look up every name I type.

Shoot me.

LOLz

WW

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

: SHRUG :

Apologies, I don't look up every name I type.

Shoot me.

LOLz

WW

He was VP for 8 years. You should know how to spell it.

 

[WorldWatcher]

He was VP for 9 years. You should know how to spell it.

You should know that someone that serves 2 terms as VP serves for 8 years not 9.



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[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You should know that someone that serves 2 terms as VP serves for 8 years not 9.



WW

Thanks for pointing out my typo. Of course I meant 8!

 

[WorldWatcher]

Thanks for pointing out my typo. Of course I meant 8!

No problem, I don't tend to pick the fly shit out of the pepper when it comes to typing errors as long I get the gist of the thought.

Unlike some people that should remain nameless.

LOLz

WW

 

[Resnic]

Trump feels threatened by desantis and this is trump's last real shot at being re elected.

Good and bad people with his mentality do it. They attack people they feel can be a threat to their goal. Remember, trump is an old school business guy in a cut throat business he got there by being aggressive to reach his goals. To him it isn't personal like it is against the people shitting on the country, it's just business to him when it comes to desantis because if he decided to run he has a very good chance at winning.

 

[YoursTruly]

A six-week abortion ban and crackdown on hiring undocumented migrants will likely play well in a Republican presidential primary but could hurt in 2024.

Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) kicked off Florida’s annual legislative session on Tuesday with a call to allow the carrying of concealed weapons without a permit and a crackdown on the hiring of undocumented immigrants — priorities that would endear him to Republican presidential primary voters — but failed to touch on an even stricter abortion ban that he supports.

He promised stricter penalties for fentanyl dealers and to “treat them like the murderers they are.” He would get tougher on illegal immigration: “Florida is not a sanctuary state, and we will uphold the rule of law.” He vowed to prohibit China from buying up land in the state: “We will not allow land grabs by CCP-backed businesses in our state,” he said, referring to the Chinese Communist Party.
And he said he would expand on last year’s banning of sexuality and gender discussion in the early grades. “Our schools must deliver a good education, not a political indoctrination,” he said.
DeSantis, who is expected to announce his candidacy for the 2024

“We welcome pro-life legislation,” he said.


Polling, however, shows that abortion restrictions are unpopular with most Americans and that last year’s overturning of Roe v. Wade by the Supreme Court was a big reason why Republicans did poorly in the 2022 midterms.
While providing fresh fodder for his anticipated run for president, DeSantis’ priorities will do little to address the biggest problems his constituents face, such as massive increases in property insurance premiums, the loss of health care insurance for 1.8 million Floridians, and yet another spring and summer of red tide along the state’s southwest and southeast coasts.
DeSantis already solved the one looming disaster his potential presidential candidacy faced during a special session last month, when he undid a $1.2 billion property tax increase on Central Florida taxpayers that was set to take effect on June 1 thanks to a law he rammed through a year ago to punish the Walt Disney Co. The new law leaves the structure of Disney’s taxing districting largely untouched, although it replaces a board chosen by Disney with one picked by DeSantis.
Meanwhile, one proposal that DeSantis did not mention in his remarks on Tuesday that is likely to pass is a modification of the state’s “resign to run” law, which states that candidates seeking a new office must resign their current position as of the start date of the term they are seeking.
DeSantis, who was reelected in November for a second four-year term, would under the commonly understood interpretation of the statute have to resign effective Jan. 20, 2025, should he declare his candidacy for president.

DeSantis Touts GOP-Primary-Friendly Priorities In ‘State Of The State’ Address

The GOP governor highlighted policies that will play well in a presidential primary but failed to mention abortion at all.

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I'm so pro life that I don't even hunt. So banning abortions for cases of convenience, I'm all for it. A life is a life, regardless of it's age.
Crack down on hiring undocumented people? Good.
You know it wasn't that long ago, when the democrat party cared about the American working class. And where the strong border party. And for good reason. Because it protected the American working class jobs. Now the left only cares about trannies, thugs and blacks. To hell with the working class white folks.
The white male is the only ones of all demographics that's legal to discriminate against.

Polling shows a lot of people want to kill their babies. There is still 1/2 the country where they can go kill their babies. Hopefully the amount of states that start at least restricting the killing of babies grows and grows.
I agree, there's going to be a LOT of thugs born into this world by hookers, druggies, losers and even rich white women who love their lifestyle more than they'll love their kids.
But maybe they'll learn to be responsible adults and start taking precautions to keep from getting pregnant.

Obviously, if DeSantis runs for potus and wins, all that legal mumbo jumbo will be worked out and a decent replacement governor will be chosen to take his place.
If DeSantis wins the RNC's nomination, then they can decide who's going to take DeSantis's place. And I'm sure who ever DeSantis endorses will be decent.

 

[candycorn]

Nope. It's good politics to keep DeSantis out. Just because you like Desantis doesn't mean this isn't a smart move for Trump.

The less competition there is in the primary, the less beat up Trump will be in the General by friendly fire.

The best way to win a battle is to convince your opponent not to fight it.

Wow...that may be the dumbest assessment of the GOP primary ever.

Your blob wants 30 opponents. He'll win 30% and take the winner-take-all primaries. IF he's going heads up against someone, 50-50 doesn't injure the opponent enough. You have to remember...Trumpism is about sticking it to someone...nothing else.

As for being "beat up" by the General...too late shit brains. He's a wounded animal who has never gotten more votes than a democrat he's run against.

 

[candycorn]

prove it

link!

Oh, that's right... we're just supposed to believe everything some poster says w/o questioning... esp if he or she says something bad about Trump!

you must think we are all a bunch of morons... which begs the question of why you are here... I guess you like morons...

No, we know you're all a bunch of morons.

 

[candycorn]

Name one national politician the has a small ego and is not an narcissist. Sure Trump has an ego. You would too if you had accomplished as much as he has.

Yep...he picked the right parents.

 

[sealybobo]

I'm so pro life that I don't even hunt. So banning abortions for cases of convenience, I'm all for it. A life is a life, regardless of it's age.
Crack down on hiring undocumented people? Good.
You know it wasn't that long ago, when the democrat party cared about the American working class. And where the strong border party. And for good reason. Because it protected the American working class jobs. Now the left only cares about trannies, thugs and blacks. To hell with the working class white folks.
The white male is the only ones of all demographics that's legal to discriminate against.

Polling shows a lot of people want to kill their babies. There is still 1/2 the country where they can go kill their babies. Hopefully the amount of states that start at least restricting the killing of babies grows and grows.
I agree, there's going to be a LOT of thugs born into this world by hookers, druggies, losers and even rich white women who love their lifestyle more than they'll love their kids.
But maybe they'll learn to be responsible adults and start taking precautions to keep from getting pregnant.

Obviously, if DeSantis runs for potus and wins, all that legal mumbo jumbo will be worked out and a decent replacement governor will be chosen to take his place.
If DeSantis wins the RNC's nomination, then they can decide who's going to take DeSantis's place. And I'm sure who ever DeSantis endorses will be decent.

I have been saying for YEARS we need a crackdown on illegal employers. Is that what we are doing now? Fantastic. Finally!

You eat meat? *****. Sorry, abortion is a woman's choice and if you think it's murder and should be outlawed, you shouldn't lead. Thanks for admitting it. Are you so pro life you are anti guns?

Biden is the most middle class first president I've ever seen. Sucks I'm upper middle and don't benefit from it.

You want scum having kids instead of aborting. No you don't. You're just totally brainwashed right wingiology.

 

[YoursTruly]

I have been saying for YEARS we need a crackdown on illegal employers. Is that what we are doing now? Fantastic. Finally!

I don't think the government should have the authority to tell any employer who he can hire.

Sorry, abortion is a woman's choice and if you think it's murder and should be outlawed, you shouldn't lead.

Molesting a child, robbing a bank, knocking over some old lady for her purse are also a persons choice. That doesn't make it right.

Thanks for admitting it. Are you so pro life you are anti guns?

I'm not anti guns, or anti hunting. I just don't like taking something else's life, when I have the money to buy meat. If I was broke, I'd kill and eat meat.

Biden is the most middle class first president I've ever seen. Sucks I'm upper middle and don't benefit from it.

You want scum having kids instead of aborting. No you don't. You're just totally brainwashed right wingiology.

I want women to take responsibility for their bodies and their actions.
There are some instances where abortion would be ok. Like if the child was diseased, severely deformed and things along those lines that was not going to allow it to have any quality of life.
The choice should be made by both parents, not just the mom.
Actual rape & incest.
The vast majority of abortions are just out of convenience.

 

[sealybobo]

I don't think the government should have the authority to tell any employer who he can hire.

Molesting a child, robbing a bank, knocking over some old lady for her purse are also a persons choice. That doesn't make it right.


I'm not anti guns, or anti hunting. I just don't like taking something else's life, when I have the money to buy meat. If I was broke, I'd kill and eat meat.




I want women to take responsibility for their bodies and their actions.
There are some instances where abortion would be ok. Like if the child was diseased, severely deformed and things along those lines that was not going to allow it to have any quality of life.
The choice should be made by both parents, not just the mom.
Actual rape & incest.
The vast majority of abortions are just out of convenience.

What you want and reality are two different things.

I want a world where women have no reasons to get abortions. Not reality.

 

[YoursTruly]

What you want and reality are two different things.

I want a world where women have no reasons to get abortions. Not reality.

Really? Being responsible isn't reality? Taking precautions isn't reality?
The reality of this is that too many women are irresponsible. And allow some schmuck to have sex with her. This is the majority of pregnancies in this country.

 

[sealybobo]

Really? Being responsible isn't reality? Taking precautions isn't reality?
The reality of this is that too many women are irresponsible. And allow some schmuck to have sex with her. This is the majority of pregnancies in this country.

Nope. It's not reality. Mistakes happen and this mistake should not alter a person's life if they don't want it to. Abortions have been around for eons my friend.

Stop it with the irresponsible bullshit. Their choice to be that way and get abortions. It's called freedom. Move to Afganistan you taliban.

 

[Redfish]

Trumps just a childish prick who can't stand a little competition.

Trump's a RINO. And DeSantis has a very conservative record. So much so that you could actually call DeSantis a true conservative.

Trump has some irritating ways, we all agree on that, therefore we should also be able to agree that during his time as president the country was in outstanding condition. About his irritating ways, he is a typical northeastern rich guy, full of bluster and vinegar, but with a good heart.

 

[Redfish]

Trump sees DeSantis as a rival for the presidency in 2024, so Trump is trying to take him out. If DeSantis is taken out of contention, then Trump will gladly welcome him back as long as DeSantis sings Trump praise.

they need to get together, a Trump?DeSantis ticket would be unbeatable.

 

[WorldWatcher]

they need to get together, a Trump?DeSantis ticket would be unbeatable.

A Trump/DeSantis ticket would be absolutely hilarious.

Wanna know why?

WW