What is “Trumpism”?

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We hear it thrown around all the time...right?
Is Trumpism nationalism?
Is it extreme patriotism?
Is it embracing and defending America’s right to sovereignty?
Is it the support and or display of core American values?
Is it preferring a likeminded society?

What is it and why do ‘some’ hold such discontent for it?
Trumpism is an in-your-face, 24x7 never ending dog whistle. Except every human being can hear it. He never puts it down. And you willing rubes chase after it with your tongues flapping in the breeze.
He plays his supporters. He thinks they are morons. He has no respect for his supporters. They're just willingly useful idiots to him. The only thing that interests Trump....is Trump and how he benefits.
Doesn't read, doesn't think, wouldn't know policy if it ran up to him and stole his Quarter Pounder with Cheese, and a carnival barking fraud on top of it.
I hold discontent for it because I weep that our society has fallen to the level of thinking this kind behavior out of our politicians should be normalized.
Spot on. SPOT ON.
 

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Adoration of an authoritarian nationalist strongman.

Arrogant ignorance, bigotry, paranoia, tribalism -- disguised as patriotism.

Unintentional mockery of "conservative values" and "small government".

Day-to-day existence within an ideological bubble that considers any "news" or "information" not provided within that bubble to be "fake news".

Yeah. That's about it.
That's pretty good. I was just going to describe it as knee-jerk dime-store patriotism for the slogan susceptible masses, so they do not have to think, only emotionally feel the orange thrill down the back of their leg. Yours is better.


nothing wrong with patriotism. i'm proud to be a patriotic American.


and the "thrill down the leg", was one of yours, not ours.


funny you got that confused.
Shoot, I'm a patriot. Lots of patriots on this board of different political strip or philosophical position. Most are not just MAGA-pies, though.

if you were a patriot, you would not be offended by trump's patriotism or the patriotism of his supporters.
Not offended by trumps patriotism because I recognize it does not exist. Kind of offended by how the trumpets were fooled by his false sloganeering pseudo-patriotism, accepting it for actually caring about the country, instead of the reality of him only caring about himself and what the country can do for his business model.

i am a life long patriot, and i find his patriotism to be fine.

from his American First bias on policy to his standing up against the asshole kneelers, his patriotism rings true to me.

that he is wealthy, is not a problem for me, as it seems to be for you. i've met plenty of good people that had a bit of money.
Met and run around with plenty of wealthy people as friends, (not that I am wealthy) mostly good people. None of them used patriotism or false patriotism to enhance their wealth as a main thrust of being a patriot. This is how I view trump, specifically and his relation to patriotism.
can you give an example of him using "patriotism" to make money? cause, i don't see him making money over being pro-us trade interests or deporting illegals, or calling out the kneelers.


to be fair, your positions sounds just made up based on your hate of the guy.
He uses patriotism falsely to stoke his supporters, but everything he does in office, from crony appointments to support of our enemies is for benefit of trump fortunes now and in the future. Thee is good money in making dictators and national enemies owe you personally a favor, even if they do hate your country. Look for a trump tower and resort coming to a beligerant anti-American country soon after he leaves office in January. I understand he offered Putin a penthouse suite.

i asked for an example and i got vague generalizations.


pretty much what i expected.


you can't back up your claim.


trump's patriotism is fine. "America First in trade and immigration policy" should be plank one is what is trumpism.
 

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defining a group or an idea, based solely on the word of people that hate them/it?

not a good way to get accuracy. if you care about that sort of thing.
That's what the topic asks.

and you are admitting that you are not serious about answering it.
Answering what "Trumpism" means? I believe I already stated that there's no definitive answer to it.

but, you do want to post some shit from people that hate us.


so, thanks for your wonderful input. it was very constructive.


how about plank two, "non-interventionism"?
 

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but, you do want to post some shit from people that hate us.


so, thanks for your wonderful input. it was very constructive.


how about plank two, "non-interventionism"?
The topic asks what "Trumpism" means. I posted what some people think it means.
 

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but, you do want to post some shit from people that hate us.


so, thanks for your wonderful input. it was very constructive.


how about plank two, "non-interventionism"?
The topic asks what "Trumpism" means. I posted what some people think it means.

you were clear, you are just here to post shit from haters, without concern for accuracy or truth.


how about plank two, "non-interventionism"?
 

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but, you do want to post some shit from people that hate us.


so, thanks for your wonderful input. it was very constructive.


how about plank two, "non-interventionism"?
The topic asks what "Trumpism" means. I posted what some people think it means.

you were clear, you are just here to post shit from haters, without concern for accuracy or truth.


how about plank two, "non-interventionism"?
The topic asks what "Trumpism" means. I gave some possible answers.

What about non-interventionism?
 

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but, you do want to post some shit from people that hate us.


so, thanks for your wonderful input. it was very constructive.


how about plank two, "non-interventionism"?
The topic asks what "Trumpism" means. I posted what some people think it means.

you were clear, you are just here to post shit from haters, without concern for accuracy or truth.


how about plank two, "non-interventionism"?
The topic asks what "Trumpism" means. I gave some possible answers.

What about non-interventionism?


you posted shit from haters.


non-interventionism could be plank 2, in the "What is trumperism" platform.
 

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We hear it thrown around all the time...right?
Is Trumpism nationalism?
Is it extreme patriotism?
Is it embracing and defending America’s right to sovereignty?
Is it the support and or display of core American values?
Is it preferring a likeminded society?

What is it and why do ‘some’ hold such discontent for it?
Trumpism is an in-your-face, 24x7 never ending dog whistle. Except every human being can hear it. He never puts it down. And you willing rubes chase after it with your tongues flapping in the breeze.
He plays his supporters. He thinks they are morons. He has no respect for his supporters. They're just willingly useful idiots to him. The only thing that interests Trump....is Trump and how he benefits.
Doesn't read, doesn't think, wouldn't know policy if it ran up to him and stole his Quarter Pounder with Cheese, and a carnival barking fraud on top of it.
I hold discontent for it because I weep that our society has fallen to the level of thinking this kind behavior out of our politicians should be normalized.
Yet, America praised a 1/2 black man, who never saw a single day in a ghetto, or knew what it was like to be a "black man" , while being groomed, in HAWAII, to become the Socialist/Communist he is? No outrage for that. Why? Because it's the SSDD with these "leaders" doing such great work for their "people "...(Al Sharpton, "Rev" Jesse Jackson...wearing $3000 + suits...banking on ignorance)...Hell, please remember the other choice was Hillary. So much into "believing all women" while getting off a man who raped a 12? 13 y/o girl?...Sick...
 

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but, you do want to post some shit from people that hate us.


so, thanks for your wonderful input. it was very constructive.


how about plank two, "non-interventionism"?
The topic asks what "Trumpism" means. I posted what some people think it means.

you were clear, you are just here to post shit from haters, without concern for accuracy or truth.


how about plank two, "non-interventionism"?
The topic asks what "Trumpism" means. I gave some possible answers.

What about non-interventionism?


you posted shit from haters.


non-interventionism could be plank 2, in the "What is trumperism" platform.
Ok, go with that then. I already said there's no definitive answer.
 

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Adoration of an authoritarian nationalist strongman.

Arrogant ignorance, bigotry, paranoia, tribalism -- disguised as patriotism.

Unintentional mockery of "conservative values" and "small government".

Yeah. That's about it.
Are you sure it’s not just a fed up and retaliatory Right that has been given a label by ‘paranoid’ Leftists in an attempt to shut them back up?
There are many on the right, conservatives that are very much against Trump. His method of governing is toxic and people of all ideologies can recognize that.


his enemies are in open insurrection in the streets. that is "toxic" and "divisive".

if you consider trump the bad guy right now, you are the problem, not him.
I agree that many of Trump opponents are engaging in dishonest and unacceptable behavior. But if you don’t think Trump is neck deep in that crap then you are blind. I know the tactic is accuse the accusers instead of taking responsibility but you’re not fooling anybody with that tactic
 

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Adoration of an authoritarian nationalist strongman.

Arrogant ignorance, bigotry, paranoia, tribalism -- disguised as patriotism.

Unintentional mockery of "conservative values" and "small government".

Day-to-day existence within an ideological bubble that considers any "news" or "information" not provided within that bubble to be "fake news".

Yeah. That's about it.
That's pretty good. I was just going to describe it as knee-jerk dime-store patriotism for the slogan susceptible masses, so they do not have to think, only emotionally feel the orange thrill down the back of their leg. Yours is better.


nothing wrong with patriotism. i'm proud to be a patriotic American.


and the "thrill down the leg", was one of yours, not ours.


funny you got that confused.
Shoot, I'm a patriot. Lots of patriots on this board of different political strip or philosophical position. Most are not just MAGA-pies, though.

if you were a patriot, you would not be offended by trump's patriotism or the patriotism of his supporters.
Not offended by trumps patriotism because I recognize it does not exist. Kind of offended by how the trumpets were fooled by his false sloganeering pseudo-patriotism, accepting it for actually caring about the country, instead of the reality of him only caring about himself and what the country can do for his business model.

i am a life long patriot, and i find his patriotism to be fine.

from his American First bias on policy to his standing up against the asshole kneelers, his patriotism rings true to me.

that he is wealthy, is not a problem for me, as it seems to be for you. i've met plenty of good people that had a bit of money.
Met and run around with plenty of wealthy people as friends, (not that I am wealthy) mostly good people. None of them used patriotism or false patriotism to enhance their wealth as a main thrust of being a patriot. This is how I view trump, specifically and his relation to patriotism.
can you give an example of him using "patriotism" to make money? cause, i don't see him making money over being pro-us trade interests or deporting illegals, or calling out the kneelers.


to be fair, your positions sounds just made up based on your hate of the guy.
He uses patriotism falsely to stoke his supporters, but everything he does in office, from crony appointments to support of our enemies is for benefit of trump fortunes now and in the future. Thee is good money in making dictators and national enemies owe you personally a favor, even if they do hate your country. Look for a trump tower and resort coming to a beligerant anti-American country soon after he leaves office in January. I understand he offered Putin a penthouse suite.

i asked for an example and i got vague generalizations.


pretty much what i expected.


you can't back up your claim.


trump's patriotism is fine. "America First in trade and immigration policy" should be plank one is what is trumpism.
Hollow sounding, with more H1Bs than any other administration, less deportations and concentrating on the wall when most illegals here have just purposely overstayed visas, not climbed a fence or walked in across a desert. I am definitely in favor of positive trade but not at the expense and damage to the family farms and the huges socialist support done to mitigate the damage to their markets. I do not pretend to know the answer, but I do not believe in trade wars. Usually too many variables to accurately predict the outcome or damage. I don't hate him, and glad we didn't get the Hill in office, but he does suck for a wide variety of reasons and I do believe words of patriotism from his lips are just tools to him to stimulate the sheep following their shepherd's lead.
 

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but, you do want to post some shit from people that hate us.


so, thanks for your wonderful input. it was very constructive.


how about plank two, "non-interventionism"?
The topic asks what "Trumpism" means. I posted what some people think it means.

you were clear, you are just here to post shit from haters, without concern for accuracy or truth.


how about plank two, "non-interventionism"?
The topic asks what "Trumpism" means. I gave some possible answers.

What about non-interventionism?


you posted shit from haters.


non-interventionism could be plank 2, in the "What is trumperism" platform.
, go with that then. I already said there's no definitive answer.
yeah, you made it clear you were just here to troll.
 

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Adoration of an authoritarian nationalist strongman.

Arrogant ignorance, bigotry, paranoia, tribalism -- disguised as patriotism.

Unintentional mockery of "conservative values" and "small government".

Yeah. That's about it.
Are you sure it’s not just a fed up and retaliatory Right that has been given a label by ‘paranoid’ Leftists in an attempt to shut them back up?
There are many on the right, conservatives that are very much against Trump. His method of governing is toxic and people of all ideologies can recognize that.


his enemies are in open insurrection in the streets. that is "toxic" and "divisive".

if you consider trump the bad guy right now, you are the problem, not him.
I agree that many of Trump opponents are engaging in dishonest and unacceptable behavior. But if you don’t think Trump is neck deep in that crap then you are blind. I know the tactic is accuse the accusers instead of taking responsibility but you’re not fooling anybody with that tactic

the resist call went out before trump took office. before trump took office, federal agents were lying to judges to get warrants against him.


mayors are ordering the cops to stand down, so rioters can rule the streets and terrorize law abiding citizens.

innocent citizens are being arrested for defending themselves against violent mobs.


TRump is not the problem. the problem is that a significant portion of the left, is no longer respecting the peaceful transfer of power.
 

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Adoration of an authoritarian nationalist strongman.

Arrogant ignorance, bigotry, paranoia, tribalism -- disguised as patriotism.

Unintentional mockery of "conservative values" and "small government".

Day-to-day existence within an ideological bubble that considers any "news" or "information" not provided within that bubble to be "fake news".

Yeah. That's about it.
That's pretty good. I was just going to describe it as knee-jerk dime-store patriotism for the slogan susceptible masses, so they do not have to think, only emotionally feel the orange thrill down the back of their leg. Yours is better.


nothing wrong with patriotism. i'm proud to be a patriotic American.


and the "thrill down the leg", was one of yours, not ours.


funny you got that confused.
Shoot, I'm a patriot. Lots of patriots on this board of different political strip or philosophical position. Most are not just MAGA-pies, though.

if you were a patriot, you would not be offended by trump's patriotism or the patriotism of his supporters.
Not offended by trumps patriotism because I recognize it does not exist. Kind of offended by how the trumpets were fooled by his false sloganeering pseudo-patriotism, accepting it for actually caring about the country, instead of the reality of him only caring about himself and what the country can do for his business model.

i am a life long patriot, and i find his patriotism to be fine.

from his American First bias on policy to his standing up against the asshole kneelers, his patriotism rings true to me.

that he is wealthy, is not a problem for me, as it seems to be for you. i've met plenty of good people that had a bit of money.
Met and run around with plenty of wealthy people as friends, (not that I am wealthy) mostly good people. None of them used patriotism or false patriotism to enhance their wealth as a main thrust of being a patriot. This is how I view trump, specifically and his relation to patriotism.
can you give an example of him using "patriotism" to make money? cause, i don't see him making money over being pro-us trade interests or deporting illegals, or calling out the kneelers.


to be fair, your positions sounds just made up based on your hate of the guy.
He uses patriotism falsely to stoke his supporters, but everything he does in office, from crony appointments to support of our enemies is for benefit of trump fortunes now and in the future. Thee is good money in making dictators and national enemies owe you personally a favor, even if they do hate your country. Look for a trump tower and resort coming to a beligerant anti-American country soon after he leaves office in January. I understand he offered Putin a penthouse suite.

i asked for an example and i got vague generalizations.


pretty much what i expected.


you can't back up your claim.


trump's patriotism is fine. "America First in trade and immigration policy" should be plank one is what is trumpism.
Hollow sounding, with more H1Bs than any other administration, less deportations and concentrating on the wall when most illegals here have just purposely overstayed visas, not climbed a fence or walked in across a desert. ...

about half came across the border. pretending that is not relevant to the problem, is you lying.


Trump's patriotism is fine.
 

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We hear it thrown around all the time...right?
Is Trumpism nationalism?
Is it extreme patriotism?
Is it embracing and defending America’s right to sovereignty?
Is it the support and or display of core American values?
Is it preferring a likeminded society?

What is it and why do ‘some’ hold such discontent for it?

i would not say, "extreme" patriotism. in fact i think trump could turn it up a notch or two and still be just fine.
Trumpism to me is America First Nationalism :up:
 

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We hear it thrown around all the time...right?
Is Trumpism nationalism?
Is it extreme patriotism?
Is it embracing and defending America’s right to sovereignty?
Is it the support and or display of core American values?
Is it preferring a likeminded society?

What is it and why do ‘some’ hold such discontent for it?
Trumpism is a word created by moronic democraps
 

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We hear it thrown around all the time...right?
Is Trumpism nationalism?
Is it extreme patriotism?
Is it embracing and defending America’s right to sovereignty?
Is it the support and or display of core American values?
Is it preferring a likeminded society?

What is it and why do ‘some’ hold such discontent for it?
It is another name for chauvinism...
 

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Adoration of an authoritarian nationalist strongman.

Arrogant ignorance, bigotry, paranoia, tribalism -- disguised as patriotism.

Unintentional mockery of "conservative values" and "small government".

Yeah. That's about it.
Are you sure it’s not just a fed up and retaliatory Right that has been given a label by ‘paranoid’ Leftists in an attempt to shut them back up?
There are many on the right, conservatives that are very much against Trump. His method of governing is toxic and people of all ideologies can recognize that.


his enemies are in open insurrection in the streets. that is "toxic" and "divisive".

if you consider trump the bad guy right now, you are the problem, not him.
I agree that many of Trump opponents are engaging in dishonest and unacceptable behavior. But if you don’t think Trump is neck deep in that crap then you are blind. I know the tactic is accuse the accusers instead of taking responsibility but you’re not fooling anybody with that tactic

the resist call went out before trump took office. before trump took office, federal agents were lying to judges to get warrants against him.


mayors are ordering the cops to stand down, so rioters can rule the streets and terrorize law abiding citizens.

innocent citizens are being arrested for defending themselves against violent mobs.


TRump is not the problem. the problem is that a significant portion of the left, is no longer respecting the peaceful transfer of power.
That’s a very skewed and dishonest representation of history you’re presenting there. Some of those points we’ve debated in the past. Sounds like you’re dug in on that narrative but that’s just not how I see it. I guess that’s just how it is during these divided times
 

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