What is the world supposed to do with the Iranian regime, or what were they supposed to do with them?

I see, so we have gone from "The Shah treated the people much worse" to "It's none of our business after showing you that the people were better off under the Shah"

Hilarious!

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Say, is your kid in here anywhere?

You can discuss both. The Shah was a horror to the people. The people overthrew him. The people, not some outside force. The peopleThey understandably blame outside entities for keeping him in power as long as he was and protecting him. Carters biggest mistake was in not returning him to Iran.
 
The next step in Iran is to go after their infrastructure systems like roads and bridges and electricity and water. This now then affecting the general population.
 
The next step in Iran is to go after their infrastructure systems like roads and bridges and electricity and water. This now then affecting the general population.

So the Iranian people didn't do what we want, let's commit WAR CRIMES!!!

You know, the same kind of behavior we've been bitching at Russia for engaging in in Ukraine.
 
We are 6,000 miles away. Not our fight. The worst mistake the US did was getting involved in the Middle East. LEAVE! LEAVE NOW!
 
We knew what to do with the Nazi's in WWII, Iran is no different the evil filth!
 
In places we have no business being in like I explained. Like we would never accept. Would we allow Russians to put military bases in Canada?




No, they didn't deserve it. Just like the people who went missing off the streets under the Shah.
Russia tried to put them in Cuba and Russia and China did have bases in Venezuela until Trump kicked them out
 
The world is asking that question. Look at the number of countries that have denied us use of their airspace.
Because.................

Trust in America is broken, says former NATO Commander​

 
You miss the main point. It is NONE of our business how others want to run their country. There is very little we can do about it. Sadly the one thing we can do, we don't. We prefer enriching the military complex at the cost to the people.
It is our business when American citizens are attacked

But then, you don't believe in representing Americans, nor do you care about the threat of ballistic missiles reaching them armed with nukes.

You belong to this crowd

 
Do we allow inspectors to inspects our facilities?
The short answer is YES....

 
Because.................

Trust in America is broken, says former NATO Commander​


Man, screw these entitled fools....

We have kept Europe under the umbrella of American security for 80 years, with our checkbooks open, and in the face of total ungreatful, piss ant complaining the whole way...Europe is doing this to themselves...

Spare us the tears of whinny babies that think they can tell us what to do, and pick our pockets at the same time...Let them see how it is to fend for themselves....
 
Oh, noes, they are saying MEAN THINGS about us.

Let's put this in reality. The Iranians elected a government that nationalized their oil wealth. The CIA overthrew that government and put the Shah in as a dictator. (Before that, he was a constitutional monarch with limited powers). For the Next 25 years, the Shah squandered Iran's oil wealth building himself palaces, while average Iranians had nothing to show for it.

The Iranians took hostages (at first radical students, but then the government got involved when the US raised the stakes by trying to invade) because the US let the Shah in for Cancer treatment. For the Iranians, they legitimately thought that we were gearing up to stage another coup against them.

The fact is, we've been punishing Iran for 47 years for picking a form of government we don't like.



A few points here. The US has also armed "proxies" in the region. We funded the Muhajedeen in Afghanistan, encouraging radical Arabs to go there to fight the Soviets. Eventually, those radicals became Al Qaeda and bit us in the ass. We funded rebels in Libya and supported them with Air power. They turned around and bit us in the ass. We armed Saddam during his war with Iran from 1981 to 1989. He turned around and bit us in the ass.

So you can't go whining that "Iran is funding terrorists" when we fund our own proxies who are just as bad.



If Israel and America can have all those weapons, why can't Iran? The US is the only country to have ever used nuclear weapons on people. We are hardly on the moral high ground here.



Well, first, the 30K number is Zionist Bullshit, but you are right, it's terrible that they are oppressing their own people. It's also none of our business. Just like what is going on in Myanmar is none of our business. Or North Korea. Or any other country that has decided they like them some strongmen.



This problem wouldn't exist if Israel Trump hadn't attacked Iran to start with.

The solution for the rest of the world would be to reach their own agreements with Iran and ignore American attempts to bring down their regime.
As a rule, governments around the globe suck. Mankind continually proves that he is unable to govern himself properly. So, the question is often asked, when does the said government become illegitimate? When should you revolt? The Founding Fathers tried to answer the same question as they revolted against the British crown. Ben Franklin once said that "It would be a thought a hard government that should tax its people one tenth part." Can you imagine what Ben would think of the United States today?

Hilarious!

But to equate the US government with that of Iran, suggesting that the US government is worse, is just absurd. First of all, the US has given us the freedom of speech to discuss such issues, something no government around the entire globe has. Don't get me wrong, they tried to do away with the said freedom with the Alien and Sedition Acts in the 1700's, something that Thomas Jefferson ran against to get elected President. He thankfully was able to overturn most of it, but what was left your idol FDR used to unconstitutionally lock up Japanese Americans during WW2 just because of their race. Yes, you think FDR was a fabulous President while stating Trump is the worst, even though Trump has never done such a racially hateful thing with US policy against any Americans based on such racism. Can you imagine a government where you cannot verbally critic Donald Trump? But the scary part is, the Left is all about censoring speech. In fact, Joe Biden helped censor speech on Twitter and other social media sites by telling them that the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation, as they dutifully censored all those stories. Afterwards, about 20% of voters said they would not have voted for him had they known. And, of course, we are all aware they censored speech over other things like the vaccine they were all mandated to receive by the Biden administration. Yes, the Left wants to censor all communication like the Iranian regimes does.

And you have to consider the question of how miserable does the said government make its own people as to whether or not it is legitimate? In other words, do they represent them? IF the said government makes them all squander around in poverty with no freedoms, they are tantamount as nothing more than slaves, drones of the state to be told what to do 24/7, or do they let the people flourish and live life to its fullest? These are all questions you should answer to see if a said government is legitimate, or should it go bye, bye?

Right now, the Left is doing everything it can to destroy the US economy as well as our freedom of speech, as Biden increased inflation like never before, and then Kamala came around wanting soul crushing taxation to follow it. So, as soon as the DNC creates a government where there is 80% poverty and no freedom of speech, get back with me on comparing them to the government of Iran.

And when has Trump murdered over 30 thousand protestors, citizens that he swore to represent? Never, that's when.

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Don't worry, I have faith you can do it, especially with the midterms looking like you will sweep back into power. You can then go back to ignoring the Iranian regime murdering Americans around the globe like the good old days, as well as ignoring them creating weapons that can, for the first time, enable them to attack the US directly.

 
We knew what to do with the Nazi's in WWII, Iran is no different the evil filth!
The Nazi regime was actually better than the Iranian regime

For you see, Hitler was terrified of his own citizens rising up against the government due to poor living standards, as they did during WW1. So, he created two big pots of money, one for the war effort and one for welfare programs as the German people had the highest standard of living than any country at that time throughout the whole war.

At least he represented his own people on some level, much like Gaddafi did in Libya as he used his oil money to give the people of Libya the highest standard of living in all of Africa.

Were Hitler and Gaddafi bad men? Sure, but better than the Iranian regime, yet the international community cheered as Obama overthrew Gaddafi anyway. Now they want to defend Iran in any way they can.

Simply amazing.
 
Man, screw these entitled fools....

We have kept Europe under the umbrella of American security for 80 years, with our checkbooks open, and in the face of total ungreatful, piss ant complaining the whole way...Europe is doing this to themselves...

Spare us the tears of whinny babies that think they can tell us what to do, and pick our pockets at the same time...Let them see how it is to fend for themselves....

Sure Q-NUT....................

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The short answer is YES....


Yes, we inspect ourselves.
 
So, America and Iran has a long history of hostilities, since, at least, America established Shah as a form of colonial administration in Iran. And Iran was "in few months from making a nuclear bomb" for decades.
But why Trump decided to attack Iran now?
I think, the answer is obvious. Because of Epstain files. Do you have other explanation?
 
Yes, we inspect ourselves.
Are you saying we aren’t trustworthy to have our own oversight?

BTW, our findings are regularly reviewed by the IAEA, dummy…

Another attempt of yours bites the dust.
 
So, America and Iran has a long history of hostilities, since, at least, America established Shah as a form of colonial administration in Iran. And Iran was "in few months from making a nuclear bomb" for decades.
But why Trump decided to attack Iran now?
I think, the answer is obvious. Because of Epstain files. Do you have other explanation?
You mean the files that are naming mostly Democrats?
 

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