What is the point of signing any treaty at all?

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Conservative = Irrational Fear of everything

Iran is no threat to the US, none. Israel can handle their own problems. Iran will not develop an atomic bomb. And let's be clear, we are talking about 'atomic' bomb, not nuclear. A thermo-nuclear bomb has 1000 times the yield as an atomic weapon.

But for cons fear overrides any rationality so the point is mute.

Here is an observation. Liberals seem go out of their way to defend our enemies.

This is not an 'observation,' it's a lie.

 

[Deleted member 53821]

Conservative = Irrational Fear of everything

Iran is no threat to the US, none. Israel can handle their own problems. Iran will not develop an atomic bomb. And let's be clear, we are talking about 'atomic' bomb, not nuclear. A thermo-nuclear bomb has 1000 times the yield as an atomic weapon.

But for cons fear overrides any rationality so the point is mute.

Here is an observation. Liberals seem go out of their way to defend our enemies.

This is not an 'observation,' it's a lie.

Here is another observation. Conservatives are often accused of having a do nothing in government. On sept 11 when we needed government tondo something every democrat in the world seem to become the very thing they despise which is a do nothing government.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Conservative = Irrational Fear of everything

Iran is no threat to the US, none. Israel can handle their own problems. Iran will not develop an atomic bomb. And let's be clear, we are talking about 'atomic' bomb, not nuclear. A thermo-nuclear bomb has 1000 times the yield as an atomic weapon.

But for cons fear overrides any rationality so the point is mute.

Fear-mongering in place of facts, the truth, and sound policy positions.

 

[Clementine]

"What is the point of signing any treaty at all?"

There's clearly no point in 'discussing' the agreement at all with ignorant, closed-minded conservatives who know nothing of the accord's provisions, who are ignorant of the fact that other nations besides the United States are signing the agreement, and that with an agreement in place should Iran fail to abide by those provisions, the accord would help facilitate a military strike by the signatory nations where such a response would likely be impossible absent the accord.

The willful ignorance of conservatives is the true threat.

Here is a pile of ignorance for you. In this country the people are represented by the legislative branch. The senate then approves of treaties that the people who elect them agree with. It is called representative democracy. I guess we can say the agreement is valid because other countries signed it but what is the point of having any kind of democracy if the fact that every other legislature in the world approval is seems to be able to override our own democratic process.

Not to mention that there will be no inspections allowed and we have to rely on the word of terrorists. I keep hearing that they must abide by the agreement, but it is non-binding. The deal simply ensured that they got $150 billion without having to make any solid agreement.

 

[Avatar4321]

Conservative = Irrational Fear of everything

Iran is no threat to the US, none. Israel can handle their own problems. Iran will not develop an atomic bomb. And let's be clear, we are talking about 'atomic' bomb, not nuclear. A thermo-nuclear bomb has 1000 times the yield as an atomic weapon.

But for cons fear overrides any rationality so the point is mute.

Here is an observation. Liberals seem go out of their way to defend our enemies.

This is not an 'observation,' it's a lie.

If they wanted to help our enemies what would they do differently?

 

[Deleted member 53821]

Surprise! Iran just discovered a fresh supply of uranium. How dumb is Obama?

 

[S.J.]

Surprise! Iran just discovered a fresh supply of uranium. How dumb is Obama?

He already knew about it.

 

[Jantje_Smit]

Except for the fact WE don't get to inspect it. Friends of Iran do and we have to take their word for it.

The IAEA are friends of Iran now?

This is getting weirder all the time, the only thing that would make you morons happy is Netanyahoo doing the inspections in person I guess.

 

[The Rabbi]

iran is going to be building whatever it is building so what is the point of signing a treaty that allows them to continue to do what they have been doing the whole time.

OK, here's the problem. You think Obama is negotiating on behalf of America. He isnt. Obama is negotiating on behalf of Obama. He desperately wanted an agreement, any agreement, so he could say his legacy was signing an agreement with IRan. The fact they will cheat on this before the ink is dry is irrelevant. If they actually explode a nuke it will be after he has left office, and thus someone else's fault.
So why not give away the store so you can have your "agreement"?

 

[The Rabbi]

Except for the fact WE don't get to inspect it. Friends of Iran do and we have to take their word for it.

The IAEA are friends of Iran now?

This is getting weirder all the time, the only thing that would make you morons happy is Netanyahoo doing the inspections in person I guess.

Their side agreement allows Iran to self-inspect and report their findings to IAEA. If that doesnt make them friends I am not sure what would.

 

[Rotagilla]

Conservative = Irrational Fear of everything

Iran is no threat to the US, none. Israel can handle their own problems. Iran will not develop an atomic bomb. And let's be clear, we are talking about 'atomic' bomb, not nuclear. A thermo-nuclear bomb has 1000 times the yield as an atomic weapon.

But for cons fear overrides any rationality so the point is mute.

Here is an observation. Liberals seem go out of their way to defend our enemies.

You believe your own lies, this is inherently the trait of the conservative mind.

The type of mind that elects someone to office who allows an attack ON AMERICAN SOIL that kills 3,000 Americans in the financial district in our greatest city...

And then elects that idiot AGAIN. Who then invaded a nation that wasn't responsible for the attack, costing 5,000 American soldiers their lives and costing 4 trillion dollars and opened the door to the insane asylum in the middle east which is beheading children now.

There is no reason to listen to anything that comes from these people. They live in a fantasy world where they are never wrong and everyone else is never right. Even when the evidence is 100% opposite of their belief system. They are children who accept no responsibility for what they do.

George bush allowed 911 to happen. He told his aides to just sit there and let it happen. I'm sure he laughed some diabolical laugh in a diabolical way as it was hapoenning just like every villian does. I don't know what is worse. A party that allowed 911 to happen or a party that seems to have thought America had it coming and feels to guilty to do anything about it.

So you probably won't be voting for another career politician again?

 

[Jantje_Smit]

Their side agreement allows Iran to self-inspect and report their findings to IAEA. If that doesnt make them friends I am not sure what would.

Eh, no.

That so called side agreement is for one site only and that's about their "suspected" nuke program from a decade ago, also the inspections will be done under IAEA supervision.

But don't let that minor fact get in the way of your propaganda, Iran is building nukes as we speak and will use them probably next week against Jerusalem and Washington.

 

[Deleted member 53821]

Conservative = Irrational Fear of everything

Iran is no threat to the US, none. Israel can handle their own problems. Iran will not develop an atomic bomb. And let's be clear, we are talking about 'atomic' bomb, not nuclear. A thermo-nuclear bomb has 1000 times the yield as an atomic weapon.

But for cons fear overrides any rationality so the point is mute.

Here is an observation. Liberals seem go out of their way to defend our enemies.

You believe your own lies, this is inherently the trait of the conservative mind.

The type of mind that elects someone to office who allows an attack ON AMERICAN SOIL that kills 3,000 Americans in the financial district in our greatest city...

And then elects that idiot AGAIN. Who then invaded a nation that wasn't responsible for the attack, costing 5,000 American soldiers their lives and costing 4 trillion dollars and opened the door to the insane asylum in the middle east which is beheading children now.

There is no reason to listen to anything that comes from these people. They live in a fantasy world where they are never wrong and everyone else is never right. Even when the evidence is 100% opposite of their belief system. They are children who accept no responsibility for what they do.

George bush allowed 911 to happen. He told his aides to just sit there and let it happen. I'm sure he laughed some diabolical laugh in a diabolical way as it was hapoenning just like every villian does. I don't know what is worse. A party that allowed 911 to happen or a party that seems to have thought America had it coming and feels to guilty to do anything about it.

So you probably won't be voting for another career politician again?

Why keep on voting for the same group of people?

 

[Rotagilla]

Conservative = Irrational Fear of everything

Iran is no threat to the US, none. Israel can handle their own problems. Iran will not develop an atomic bomb. And let's be clear, we are talking about 'atomic' bomb, not nuclear. A thermo-nuclear bomb has 1000 times the yield as an atomic weapon.

But for cons fear overrides any rationality so the point is mute.

Here is an observation. Liberals seem go out of their way to defend our enemies.

You believe your own lies, this is inherently the trait of the conservative mind.

The type of mind that elects someone to office who allows an attack ON AMERICAN SOIL that kills 3,000 Americans in the financial district in our greatest city...

And then elects that idiot AGAIN. Who then invaded a nation that wasn't responsible for the attack, costing 5,000 American soldiers their lives and costing 4 trillion dollars and opened the door to the insane asylum in the middle east which is beheading children now.

There is no reason to listen to anything that comes from these people. They live in a fantasy world where they are never wrong and everyone else is never right. Even when the evidence is 100% opposite of their belief system. They are children who accept no responsibility for what they do.

George bush allowed 911 to happen. He told his aides to just sit there and let it happen. I'm sure he laughed some diabolical laugh in a diabolical way as it was hapoenning just like every villian does. I don't know what is worse. A party that allowed 911 to happen or a party that seems to have thought America had it coming and feels to guilty to do anything about it.

So you probably won't be voting for another career politician again?

Why keep on voting for the same group of people?

you're asking me?

I have said for decades, re elect NObody...

 

[Deleted member 53821]

Their side agreement allows Iran to self-inspect and report their findings to IAEA. If that doesnt make them friends I am not sure what would.

Eh, no.

That so called side agreement is for one site only and that's about their "suspected" nuke program from a decade ago, also the inspections will be done under IAEA supervision.

But don't let that minor fact get in the way of your propaganda, Iran is building nukes as we speak and will use them probably next week against Jerusalem and Washington.

Who said the UN or ant other international agency can be trusted. Just the definition of an international agency presupposes that they will represent all nations equally. That includes the United States and many of our advisories who may think it is a good idea for an opponent of us be armed. Let's not forget the rebid anti-semitism the seems to dominate all socialist parties. An international agency can't be trusted.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

Peace in our time !!!!

Thank you community organizing, black liberation theologist !

America can now focus on important things at home like redistribution of wealth and expanding the welfare state.....

 

[IsaacNewton]

What is up with the dimwits who think the Reagan/Chamberlain 'peace in our time' debacle is relevant.

This president gets things done, even as the Republican children in the Congress block everything he wants to do.

Live with it. Iran will get no atomic bomb. But you cons need your fear it keeps you warm at night so go hide in your basement and suck on your lolly.