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What is the Mark of The Beast?

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I fear for all of America. This Illegal Leftest takeover of our government is going to destroy our country just like it has destroyed other countries.
LOLOL

Fortunately for America, you're just a hyperventilating nut. America will be fine. You? Not so much.

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America is going down, and will be taken down by the same Globalists who brought you Fake Russian Collusion and The Scamdemic, and nothing can be done about it.

The End Times move to Global Government is here, and nothing will stop it. BTW, say goodbye to your 401Ks and Retirement Accounts.

The Globalists already have their eyes on that pot of money like they have with Social Security.

It'll all be redistributed to third world nations. Remember? You didn't build that.

Socialism....especially the kind The UN, WEP, WHO, and all globalists want to impose on free people and free nations dictates that you own nothing and will like it.

Only the Elites get to own everything, and there is Zero upward mobility. Welcome to the bland, tasteless world of Globalism and Equivalent Poverty.

LOLOL.. You are a real conspiracy nut.. No wonder you follow Scofieldd and the futurists.
 

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I fear for all of America. This Illegal Leftest takeover of our government is going to destroy our country just like it has destroyed other countries.
LOLOL

Fortunately for America, you're just a hyperventilating nut. America will be fine. You? Not so much.

:abgg2q.jpg:
America is going down, and will be taken down by the same Globalists who brought you Fake Russian Collusion and The Scamdemic, and nothing can be done about it.

The End Times move to Global Government is here, and nothing will stop it. BTW, say goodbye to your 401Ks and Retirement Accounts.

The Globalists already have their eyes on that pot of money like they have with Social Security.

It'll all be redistributed to third world nations. Remember? You didn't build that.

Socialism....especially the kind The UN, WEP, WHO, and all globalists want to impose on free people and free nations dictates that you own nothing and will like it.

Only the Elites get to own everything, and there is Zero upward mobility. Welcome to the bland, tasteless world of Globalism and Equivalent Poverty.

LOLOL.. You are a real conspiracy nut.. No wonder you follow Scofieldd and the futurists.
No one is listening to a Makr like you.
 

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There was NO history of futurism in the church over a period of sixteen hundred years and now you guys fall for Darby, Scofield and Hal Lindsey.
We can spend the whole day telling dispensationalist and mainstream Christians that first, Jesus never said he would "return," and that second he said he would "come" in the apostles' generation. We can spend the whole day telling them that therefore Christ has come.

And they'll spend the whole day defending their new-age eschatology sans any biblical frame of reference. We're just chasing our tails.

But I wouldn't put all the blame on the dispensationalists of the nineteenth and twentieth centuries, although they added greatly to the confusion. As early as the second century, church fathers began to ignore the time statements that Jesus and his apostles made regarding the fulfillment of prophecy. No sooner had the apostles immortalized their testimonies in the epistles and the words of Christ in the gospels than church fathers began to lose sight of their pronouncements concerning the events of the apostolic generation.

Prophecy is realized. Jesus and the apostles made that abundantly clear. Sadly, with few exceptions, the early church fathers failed to pick up on that, projecting the kingdom’s arrival into their own futures and effectively writing extra-biblical eschatology that would ultimately become mainstream and snowball into wild-eyed theories involving sea monsters and dragons, the Soviet Union, China, a new state of Israel, the Catholic Church, and a host of other fanciful vagaries that would need adjustment from time to time to remain relevant.
 
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There was NO history of futurism in the church over a period of sixteen hundred years and now you guys fall for Darby, Scofield and Hal Lindsey.
We can spend the whole day telling dispensationalist and mainstream Christians that first, Jesus never said he would "return," and that second he said he would "come" in the apostles' generation. We can spend the whole day telling them that therefore Christ has come.

And they'll spend the whole day defending their new-age eschatology sans any biblical frame of reference. We're just chasing our tails.

But I wouldn't put all the blame on the dispensationalists of the nineteenth and twentieth centuries, although they added greatly to the confusion. As early as the second century, church fathers began to ignore the time statements that Jesus and his apostles made regarding the fulfillment of prophecy. No sooner had the apostles immortalized their testimonies in the epistles and the words of Christ in the gospels than church fathers began to lose sight of their pronouncements concerning the events of the apostolic generation.

Prophecy is realized. Jesus and the apostles made that abundantly clear.

Sadly, with few exceptions, the early church fathers failed to pick up on that, projecting the kingdom’s arrival into their own futures and effectively writing extra-biblical eschatology that would ultimately become mainstream and snowball into wild-eyed theories involving sea monsters and dragons, the Soviet Union, China, a new state of Israel, the Catholic Church, and a host of other fanciful vagaries that would need adjustment from time to time to remain relevant.

Its true they began drifting away from the message early on.. Thanks for reminging me.
 

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There was NO history of futurism in the church over a period of sixteen hundred years and now you guys fall for Darby, Scofield and Hal Lindsey.
We can spend the whole day telling dispensationalist and mainstream Christians that first, Jesus never said he would "return," and that second he said he would "come" in the apostles' generation. We can spend the whole day telling them that therefore Christ has come.

And they'll spend the whole day defending their new-age eschatology sans any biblical frame of reference. We're just chasing our tails.

But I wouldn't put all the blame on the dispensationalists of the nineteenth and twentieth centuries, although they added greatly to the confusion. As early as the second century, church fathers began to ignore the time statements that Jesus and his apostles made regarding the fulfillment of prophecy. No sooner had the apostles immortalized their testimonies in the epistles and the words of Christ in the gospels than church fathers began to lose sight of their pronouncements concerning the events of the apostolic generation.

Prophecy is realized. Jesus and the apostles made that abundantly clear.

Sadly, with few exceptions, the early church fathers failed to pick up on that, projecting the kingdom’s arrival into their own futures and effectively writing extra-biblical eschatology that would ultimately become mainstream and snowball into wild-eyed theories involving sea monsters and dragons, the Soviet Union, China, a new state of Israel, the Catholic Church, and a host of other fanciful vagaries that would need adjustment from time to time to remain relevant.

Its true they began drifting away from the message early on.. Thanks for reminging me.
Near as I can tell, only after the advent of the printing press and the mass production of Bibles did lay people en masse begin to see for themselves once again, after centuries of misguided teaching, that they had already inherited the promises of God, that they need not continue to merely hope for that inheritance but may reap its blessings here and now. Albeit only a few saw this initially, such as the Spanish Jesuit Luis del Alcázar, because Bible translations lacked accuracy and because tradition can exert a powerful stranglehold on people.

Very little about tradition has remained true to the text (or Israelite culture and history). The mark of the beast has roots in all those contexts, as I have mentioned before.

Don't listen to the heretics in this thread; the heretics are the ones who place the mark in a computer chip.
 
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There was NO history of futurism in the church over a period of sixteen hundred years and now you guys fall for Darby, Scofield and Hal Lindsey.
We can spend the whole day telling dispensationalist and mainstream Christians that first, Jesus never said he would "return," and that second he said he would "come" in the apostles' generation. We can spend the whole day telling them that therefore Christ has come.

And they'll spend the whole day defending their new-age eschatology sans any biblical frame of reference. We're just chasing our tails.

But I wouldn't put all the blame on the dispensationalists of the nineteenth and twentieth centuries, although they added greatly to the confusion. As early as the second century, church fathers began to ignore the time statements that Jesus and his apostles made regarding the fulfillment of prophecy. No sooner had the apostles immortalized their testimonies in the epistles and the words of Christ in the gospels than church fathers began to lose sight of their pronouncements concerning the events of the apostolic generation.

Prophecy is realized. Jesus and the apostles made that abundantly clear.

Sadly, with few exceptions, the early church fathers failed to pick up on that, projecting the kingdom’s arrival into their own futures and effectively writing extra-biblical eschatology that would ultimately become mainstream and snowball into wild-eyed theories involving sea monsters and dragons, the Soviet Union, China, a new state of Israel, the Catholic Church, and a host of other fanciful vagaries that would need adjustment from time to time to remain relevant.

Its true they began drifting away from the message early on.. Thanks for reminging me.
Near as I can tell, only after the advent of the printing press and the mass production of Bibles did lay people en masse begin to see for themselves once again, after centuries of misguided teaching, that they had already inherited the promises of God, that they need not continue to merely hope for that inheritance but may reap its blessings here and now. Albeit only a few saw this initially, such as the Spanish Jesuit Luis del Alcázar, because Bible translations lacked accuracy and because tradition can exert a powerful stranglehold on people.

Very little about tradition has remained true to the text (or Israelite culture and history). The mark of the beast has roots in all those contexts, as I have mentioned before.

Don't listen to them; the heretics are the ones who place the mark in a computer chip.
You'll be saying that very thing when you get branded like cattle, take The Mark of The Beast, and fall down and worship a false messiah thereby condemning your soul to The Eternal Lake of Fire.

Sounds like: "Two weeks to slow the spread!" Just another damnable lie.

You sound like Allah in The Garden of Eden when he told Eve: "Surely if you eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, you will not die."

And she listened to the lie because it was pleasing to her ears, and now death is part of the human existence, physical and spiritual death, until the day of redemption for believers where the good sheep are separated from the condemned goats.
 

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Who gives a shit about the Church? The Church has become the habitation of every sort of foul and loathsome beast and bird dedicated to perpetuating idolatry, the abomination that causes desolation.
View attachment 482531
This Surada a Makr, not only blasphemes The Holy Spirit, but he insults The Bride of Christ.

These are what Scripture calls Unforgiveable sins.
Most all who think they are of the Bride are of the Whore.
There is no Unforgivable Sin - you don't discern "In this world or the next world" - which speaks of the Ages.
 

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There was NO history of futurism in the church over a period of sixteen hundred years and now you guys fall for Darby, Scofield and Hal Lindsey.
We can spend the whole day telling dispensationalist and mainstream Christians that first, Jesus never said he would "return," and that second he said he would "come" in the apostles' generation. We can spend the whole day telling them that therefore Christ has come.

And they'll spend the whole day defending their new-age eschatology sans any biblical frame of reference. We're just chasing our tails.

But I wouldn't put all the blame on the dispensationalists of the nineteenth and twentieth centuries, although they added greatly to the confusion. As early as the second century, church fathers began to ignore the time statements that Jesus and his apostles made regarding the fulfillment of prophecy. No sooner had the apostles immortalized their testimonies in the epistles and the words of Christ in the gospels than church fathers began to lose sight of their pronouncements concerning the events of the apostolic generation.

Prophecy is realized. Jesus and the apostles made that abundantly clear.

Sadly, with few exceptions, the early church fathers failed to pick up on that, projecting the kingdom’s arrival into their own futures and effectively writing extra-biblical eschatology that would ultimately become mainstream and snowball into wild-eyed theories involving sea monsters and dragons, the Soviet Union, China, a new state of Israel, the Catholic Church, and a host of other fanciful vagaries that would need adjustment from time to time to remain relevant.

Its true they began drifting away from the message early on.. Thanks for reminging me.
Near as I can tell, only after the advent of the printing press and the mass production of Bibles did lay people en masse begin to see for themselves once again, after centuries of misguided teaching, that they had already inherited the promises of God, that they need not continue to merely hope for that inheritance but may reap its blessings here and now. Albeit only a few saw this initially, such as the Spanish Jesuit Luis del Alcázar, because Bible translations lacked accuracy and because tradition can exert a powerful stranglehold on people.

Very little about tradition has remained true to the text (or Israelite culture and history). The mark of the beast has roots in all those contexts, as I have mentioned before.

Don't listen to them; the heretics are the ones who place the mark in a computer chip.
You'll be saying that very thing when you get branded like cattle and fall down and worship a false messiah condemning your soul to The Eternal Lake of Fire.

You sound like Allah in The Garden of Eden when he told Eve: "Surely if you eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, you will not die."

And she listened, and now death is part of the human existence, physical and spiritual death, until the day of redemption for believers where the good sheep are separated from the condemned goats.
You're nutty as a fruitcake.
 

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There was NO history of futurism in the church over a period of sixteen hundred years and now you guys fall for Darby, Scofield and Hal Lindsey.
We can spend the whole day telling dispensationalist and mainstream Christians that first, Jesus never said he would "return," and that second he said he would "come" in the apostles' generation. We can spend the whole day telling them that therefore Christ has come.

And they'll spend the whole day defending their new-age eschatology sans any biblical frame of reference. We're just chasing our tails.

But I wouldn't put all the blame on the dispensationalists of the nineteenth and twentieth centuries, although they added greatly to the confusion. As early as the second century, church fathers began to ignore the time statements that Jesus and his apostles made regarding the fulfillment of prophecy. No sooner had the apostles immortalized their testimonies in the epistles and the words of Christ in the gospels than church fathers began to lose sight of their pronouncements concerning the events of the apostolic generation.

Prophecy is realized. Jesus and the apostles made that abundantly clear.

Sadly, with few exceptions, the early church fathers failed to pick up on that, projecting the kingdom’s arrival into their own futures and effectively writing extra-biblical eschatology that would ultimately become mainstream and snowball into wild-eyed theories involving sea monsters and dragons, the Soviet Union, China, a new state of Israel, the Catholic Church, and a host of other fanciful vagaries that would need adjustment from time to time to remain relevant.

Its true they began drifting away from the message early on.. Thanks for reminging me.
Near as I can tell, only after the advent of the printing press and the mass production of Bibles did lay people en masse begin to see for themselves once again, after centuries of misguided teaching, that they had already inherited the promises of God, that they need not continue to merely hope for that inheritance but may reap its blessings here and now. Albeit only a few saw this initially, such as the Spanish Jesuit Luis del Alcázar, because Bible translations lacked accuracy and because tradition can exert a powerful stranglehold on people.

Very little about tradition has remained true to the text (or Israelite culture and history). The mark of the beast has roots in all those contexts, as I have mentioned before.

Don't listen to them; the heretics are the ones who place the mark in a computer chip.
You'll be saying that very thing when you get branded like cattle and fall down and worship a false messiah condemning your soul to The Eternal Lake of Fire.

You sound like Allah in The Garden of Eden when he told Eve: "Surely if you eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, you will not die."

And she listened, and now death is part of the human existence, physical and spiritual death, until the day of redemption for believers where the good sheep are separated from the condemned goats.
You're nutty as a fruitcake.
And you are a condemned blasphemer. God has sent you delusion so that you cannot repent, because you have lead others astray. Your fate is sealed barring a miracle, and God relenting in His judgment upon you, Makr.
 

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Who gives a shit about the Church? The Church has become the habitation of every sort of foul and loathsome beast and bird dedicated to perpetuating idolatry, the abomination that causes desolation.
View attachment 482531
This Surada a Makr, not only blasphemes The Holy Spirit, but he insults The Bride of Christ.

These are what Scripture calls Unforgiveable sins.
Most all who think they are of the Bride are of the Whore.
There is no Unforgivable Sin - you don't discern "In this world or the next world" - which speaks of the Ages.
There are unforgivable sins, and one of them is blaspheming The Holy Spirit. This is a Biblical Doctrine and is found in scripture.
 

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And you are a condemned blasphemer. God has sent you delusion so that you cannot repent, because you have lead others astray. Your fate is sealed barring a miracle, and God relenting in His judgment upon you, Makr.
Yea, okay, ya' nut ya.'

BTW, are you the one condemning me?
 

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Two first century non-Christian historians Josephus and Tacitus record an angelic army in the clouds at the start of the Jewish War in A.D. 66.


In the clouds being a metaphor for people, specifically the sons of light, defeating the sons of darkness from a position way above their addled heads, way above their ability to grasp.

Just like the sword Jesus said he came to bring was a curse under the appearance of a harmless cup of wine, designed specifically to smite the nations of the roman empire.

An audacious claim by an unarmed nut job, a low level criminal of no account, or so they thought.

Like a mighty wind it just went whoosh right over their empty heads.
 
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And you are a condemned blasphemer. God has sent you delusion so that you cannot repent, because you have lead others astray. Your fate is sealed barring a miracle, and God relenting in His judgment upon you, Makr.
Yea, okay, ya' nut ya.'

BTW, are you the one condemning me?
Nope, I am warning you that God's Word, states those that love not "The Truth" which is The Gospel of Jesus Christ, will be sent a strong delusion by God so that they cannot repent and believe lies and deceptions, and thereby be separated out from God's Children and marked for condemnation, and judgment in The Eternal Lake of Fire.

It's God's way of washing His hands of you.
 

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And you are a condemned blasphemer. God has sent you delusion so that you cannot repent, because you have lead others astray. Your fate is sealed barring a miracle, and God relenting in His judgment upon you, Makr.
Yea, okay, ya' nut ya.'

BTW, are you the one condemning me?
Nope, I am warning you that God's Word, states those that love not "The Truth" which is The Gosper of Jesus Christ, will be sent a strong delusion by God so that they cannot repent and believe lies and deceptions.

It's God's way of washing His hands of you.
The truth of God's word is that Jesus said he would come in the apostles'' generation, while some of them were still alive (Mt 16:28).

Do you love the truth?
 

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And you are a condemned blasphemer. God has sent you delusion so that you cannot repent, because you have lead others astray. Your fate is sealed barring a miracle, and God relenting in His judgment upon you, Makr.
Yea, okay, ya' nut ya.'

BTW, are you the one condemning me?
Nope, I am warning you that God's Word, states those that love not "The Truth" which is The Gosper of Jesus Christ, will be sent a strong delusion by God so that they cannot repent and believe lies and deceptions.

It's God's way of washing His hands of you.
The truth of God's word is that Jesus said he would come in the apostles'' generation, while some of them were still alive (Mt 16:28).

Do you love the truth?
Yes, I love the truth, but you do not know The Truth. That section of scripture references the beginning of The Church Age. So The Apostles, literally saw the beginning of The Kingdom of God in their lifetime.

Matthew 16:28, NIV: "Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.'"

That is a separate issue from 1,000 year Millennial Reign of Christ which begins after the destruction of The AntiChrist Kingdom and judgment of AntiChrist, The False Prophet and Satan.

All deceivers, and makrs like to twist the Word of God like Satan does who was chief and the first to do so, when he said, "surely you will not die"

You say it too.
 
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Two first century non-Christian historians Josephus and Tacitus record an angelic army in the clouds at the start of the Jewish War in A.D. 66.


In the clouds being a metaphor for people, specifically the sons of light, defeating the sons of darkness from a position way above their addled heads, way above their ability to grasp.

Just like the sword Jesus said he came to bring was a curse under the appearance of a harmless cup of wine, designed specifically to smite the nations of the roman empire.

An audacious claim by an unarmed nut job, a low level criminal of no account, or so they thought.

Like a mighty wind it just went whoosh right over their empty heads.
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And you are a condemned blasphemer. God has sent you delusion so that you cannot repent, because you have lead others astray. Your fate is sealed barring a miracle, and God relenting in His judgment upon you, Makr.
Yea, okay, ya' nut ya.'

BTW, are you the one condemning me?
Nope, I am warning you that God's Word, states those that love not "The Truth" which is The Gospel of Jesus Christ, will be sent a strong delusion by God so that they cannot repent and believe lies and deceptions, and thereby be separated out from God's Children and marked for condemnation, and judgment in The Eternal Lake of Fire.

It's God's way of washing His hands of you.
You've got much study to do, you read perverted translations with unspiritual interpretations.
"God shall be ALL IN ALL" - I Cor 15:28
 

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Two first century non-Christian historians Josephus and Tacitus record an angelic army in the clouds at the start of the Jewish War in A.D. 66.


In the clouds being a metaphor for people, specifically the sons of light, defeating the sons of darkness from a position way above their addled heads, way above their ability to grasp.

Just like the sword Jesus said he came to bring was a curse under the appearance of a harmless cup of wine, designed specifically to smite the nations of the roman empire.

An audacious claim by an unarmed nut job, a low level criminal of no account, or so they thought.

Like a mighty wind it just went whoosh right over their empty heads.
View attachment 482807


Don't be silly. Because I have revealed that which had been hidden since the the foundation of the world now everyone, believers, unbelievers, agnostics, religious nut jobs, and even atheists, know.

If you still profess to believe in this day and age that Jesus was an edible mangod sacrificed so that you can sin for the rest of your life without paying the price, suffering the death consequent, you may be an asshole.
'
 
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Two first century non-Christian historians Josephus and Tacitus record an angelic army in the clouds at the start of the Jewish War in A.D. 66.


In the clouds being a metaphor for people, specifically the sons of light, defeating the sons of darkness from a position way above their addled heads, way above their ability to grasp.

Just like the sword Jesus said he came to bring was a curse under the appearance of a harmless cup of wine, designed specifically to smite the nations of the roman empire.

An audacious claim by an unarmed nut job, a low level criminal of no account, or so they thought.

Like a mighty wind it just went whoosh right over their empty heads.
View attachment 482807


Don't be silly. Because I have revealed that which had been hidden since the the foundation of the world now everyone, believers, unbelievers, agnostics, religious nut jobs, and even atheists, know.

If you still profess to believe, in this day and age, that Jesus was an edible mangod sacrificed so that you can sin for the rest of your life without paying the price you may be an asshole.
'
How did that not just prove what Jeff Foxworthy said about you?
 

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Two first century non-Christian historians Josephus and Tacitus record an angelic army in the clouds at the start of the Jewish War in A.D. 66.


In the clouds being a metaphor for people, specifically the sons of light, defeating the sons of darkness from a position way above their addled heads, way above their ability to grasp.

Just like the sword Jesus said he came to bring was a curse under the appearance of a harmless cup of wine, designed specifically to smite the nations of the roman empire.

An audacious claim by an unarmed nut job, a low level criminal of no account, or so they thought.

Like a mighty wind it just went whoosh right over their empty heads.
View attachment 482807


Don't be silly. Because I have revealed that which had been hidden since the the foundation of the world now everyone, believers, unbelievers, agnostics, religious nut jobs, and even atheists, know.

If you still profess to believe, in this day and age, that Jesus was an edible mangod sacrificed so that you can sin for the rest of your life without paying the price you may be an asshole.
'
How did that not just prove what Jeff Foxworthy said about you?


Oh so now you think Jeff foxworthy said something? lol..


It is truly inspiring to see the many wonderful things believing in bullshit has done for you.

Just when I think you couldn't possibly stoop any lower you always surprise me.

Thanks for the laughs.

asshole.
 

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