What is the definition of "assault weapon?"

[Lesh]

It was far higher in the colonial era. Firearms were essential to life in the colonies particularly for the vast majority of the citizenry who lived in rural areas.

If anyone attacked your homestead there was nobody else to save you.

If the Militia was called up you were expected to show up fully armed and prepared to do battle as a basic infantryman.

That shows how outdated that is huh?

 

[Lesh]

If it has a "pistol grip" and muzzle device it would be classed as an "Assault weapon" by many proposed definitions.

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[Billy000]

It was far higher in the colonial era. Firearms were essential to life in the colonies particularly for the vast majority of the citizenry who lived in rural areas.

If anyone attacked your homestead there was nobody else to save you.

If the Militia was called up you were expected to show up fully armed and prepared to do battle as a basic infantryman.

Your romantic, emotional assumption about Colonial times does not somehow change the fact that MILLIONS of people currently own guns. They can be transported across the country in the matter of days. Mass distribution is assured. People own MULTIPLE guns. Some of those people are too fucking stupid to even know how to properly handle them. Some of those people are potentially psychopaths. We know that first hand.

 

[Devils_Advocate]

Link

Assault weapon - Wikipedia

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Yeah, you shouldn’t ask for one…

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Your romantic, emotional assumption about Colonial times does not somehow change the fact that MILLIONS of people currently own guns. They can be transported across the country in the matter of days. Mass distribution is assured. People own MULTIPLE guns. Some of those people are too fucking stupid to even know how to properly handle them. Some of those people are potentially psychopaths. We know that first hand.

Nothing romanticized about it. Life was hard as hell in that era.

Gun ownership is a right, not a privilege. Rights don't' come with preconditions.

Exactly what difference does it make how many guns a person owns? You only need one to commit a crime with a gun.

The failure is in not dealing with the mentally ill appropriately. At least if this guy had been adjudicated as mentally defective by a court he would not have been able to legally purchase a firearm.

Without such a finding there was no reason to deny his purchase by NICS.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

That shows how outdated that is huh?

Our most basic rights cannot be outdated.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

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SECTION 37(B) (CATEGORY TWO): SHOTGUNS THAT ARE ASSAULT WEAPONS​

“‘Assault weapon’ means a semiautomatic shotgun that has at least one of the following characteristics: (1) a folding or telescoping stock; (2) a thumbhole stock; (3) a second handgrip or protruding grip that can be held by the non-trigger hand; (4) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 7 rounds; or (5) the ability of the shotgun to accept a detachable magazine.”

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[BackAgain]

Come on. Everyone knows that an assault weapon is a weapon that assaults others.

When one of those self ammunition-loading and self-firing guns goes out to commit heinous atrocities, it has malice in its mind. Or in its magazine or chamber.

 

[Devils_Advocate]

Come on. Everyone knows that an assault weapon is a weapon that assaults others.

When one of those self ammunition-loading and self-firing guns goes out to commit heinous atrocities, it has malice in its mind. Or in its magazine or chamber.

When the gun is smarter than it owner we will see mass shooters stop killing because the Gun will kill them…

 

[OKTexas]

It's used to kill people not for hunting.

I use mine for shooting wild hogs, not people. You really are stupid.

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[Billy000]

Nothing romanticized about it. Life was hard as hell in that era.

Gun ownership is a right, not a privilege. Rights don't' come with preconditions.

Exactly what difference does it make how many guns a person owns? You only need one to commit a crime with a gun.

The failure is in not dealing with the mentally ill appropriately. At least if this guy had been adjudicated as mentally defective by a court he would not have been able to legally purchase a firearm.

Without such a finding there was no reason to deny his purchase by NICS.

Gee how convenient you ignored specific points I made. And yeah, multiple guns matter because multiple guns are taken to some mass shootings.

Also, if this issue was simply a matter of mental health and not guns whatsoever, why is gun death per capita far higher in the US than in counties like Canada, England, Wales, and Australia. In the US gun deaths represent 79% of all murders. In the UK, it is 4%. Canada 37%. Australia 13%.

The numbers behind the rise in US mass shootings - BBC News

Explaining some of the key statistics behind gun ownership and attacks linked to guns in the US.

www.bbc.com

 

[OKTexas]

An assault rifle is not a handgun.

A sport utility rifle isn't an assault rifle either.

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[Big Bend Texas]

Gee how convenient you ignored specific points I made. And yeah, multiple guns matter because multiple guns are taken to some mass shootings.

Also, if this issue was simply a matter of mental health and not guns whatsoever, why is gun death per capita far higher in the US than in counties like Canada, England, Wales, and Australia. In the US gun deaths represent 79% of all murders. In the UK, it is 4%. Canada 37%. Australia 13%.

The numbers behind the rise in US mass shootings - BBC News

Explaining some of the key statistics behind gun ownership and attacks linked to guns in the US.

www.bbc.com

Funny you choose to compare us to countries with almost nothing in common with us besides language.

How many other countries that share a 2,000 mile border with a failed Narco State constantly pumping guns, money, and drugs across the border in both directions and a distribution system that reaches every community in the country?

How many of them have a population of 320,000,000 people scattered over nearly 4,000,000 square miles?

How many of those countries have our racial demographics?

How many of them have populations of tens of millions of people who believe they live in a separate country?

Try making an apples to apples comparison if you can find one.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

An assault rifle is not a handgun.

It is if the handgun has a pistol brace.

 

[toobfreak]

And yeah, multiple guns matter because multiple guns are taken to some mass shootings.

And most people drive to the bank to rob one and get away with so obviously, we need to ban all automobiles.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

And yeah, multiple guns matter because multiple guns are taken to some mass shootings.

So what? How many exactly? How often is more than one used? How often is more than one needed?

In the history of mass shootings in the US I can only think of one where the bad guy actually needed more than one gun.

How many any of us own is irrelevant as to whether or not we choose to commit a crime with them.

Nearly everyone who commits a mass shooting drives a car or truck, so therefore we should ban POV's under your theory.

They all wore pants too, so we should ban pants while we're at it.

You've gone from totally absurd to absolutely asinine.

 

[Billy000]

Funny you choose to compare us to countries with almost nothing in common with us besides language.

How many other countries that share a 2,000 mile border with a failed Narco State constantly pumping guns, money, and drugs across the border in both directions and a distribution system that reaches every community in the country?

How many of them have a population of 320,000,000 people scattered over nearly 4,000,000 square miles?

How many of those countries have our racial demographics?

How many of them have populations of tens of millions of people who believe they live in a separate country?

Try making an apples to apples comparison if you can find one.

Lol nothing in common? What the fuck does that even mean? What specifics are you referring to? How do they justify our monopoly on gun related deaths?

Oh gee how surprising you bring the border into this lol. Of course you did. Tell me, what specific tie in does the border have to overall gun violence? Are you suggesting born and raised Americans are primarily buying guns illegally from Mexican supply? Hmm. That’s a new one!

The high population of the US in comparison does not mean dick if we are computing PERCENTAGES when it comes to gun violence.

Our racial demographics? How does that explain white people committing so many mass shootings?

Why are mass shootings so common in the US yet so uncommon in the UK and Australia?

I have no idea what you’re trying to say with this separate country shit but it sounds like non sense.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Lol nothing in common? What the fuck does that even mean? What specifics are you referring to? How do they justify our monopoly on gun related deaths?

Oh gee how surprising you bring the border into this lol. Of course you did. Tell me, what specific tie in does the border have to overall gun violence? Are you suggesting born and raised Americans are primarily buying guns illegally from Mexican supply? Hmm. That’s a new one!

The high population of the US in comparison does not mean dick if we are computing PERCENTAGES when it comes to gun violence.

Our racial demographics? How does that explain white people committing so many mass shootings?

Why are mass shootings so common in the US yet so uncommon in the UK and Australia?

I have no idea what you’re trying to say with this separate country shit but it sounds like non sense.

No you idiot, the violence associated with the cartels' drug trade has spread to every community in the country.

Most violent crime not related to domestics can be tied to drugs and gangs in most of our major cities.

Have you always been such an idiot?

 

[Billy000]

No you idiot, the violence associated with the cartels' drug trade has spread to every community in the country.

Most violent crime not related to domestics can be tied to drugs and gangs in most of our major cities.

Have you always been such an idiot?

What the fuck effect does the cartel violence have when it comes to home grown Americans? You do know it is legal citizens committing all those Maas shootings right? Just how much of a percentage can we attribute gun violence to drug cartels? Do you even know? No I don’t think you do know.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

What the fuck effect does the cartel violence have when it comes to home grown Americans? You do know it is legal citizens committing all those Maas shootings right? Just how much of a percentage can we attribute gun violence to drug cartels? Do you even know? No I don’t think you do know.

You need to get a grip on yourself. You wanted to talk about murders and violent crimes overall, not just mass shootings.

Also, if this issue was simply a matter of mental health and not guns whatsoever, why is gun death per capita far higher in the US than in counties like Canada, England, Wales, and Australia. In the US gun deaths represent 79% of all murders. In the UK, it is 4%. Canada 37%. Australia 13%.

Make your damned mind up.