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Biden is working with the permanent members of the UN Security Council to fix the damage Trump has done
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What is lifting Trumps eo on Iran accomplish
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Biden is working with the permanent members of the UN Security Council to fix the damage Trump has done
Bush92
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United Nations ? LMFAO! Biden = Neville Chamberlain.Biden and his son are a compromised threat to national security.Donald never should have walked away from
Ya, cutting off your nose to spite your face will make america safe
11 Iranians were caught last month trying to cross the border.
They shoulda drove drunk across.
The deal. They were abiding by it. Now grown ups are in charge again and not insane ignorant impulsive twits who run foreign policy based on who sucks up to them.
I hope that helps
Trump said he would negotiate a better deal. He never even tried.
Biden will negotiate a deal that will make the world safer
Biden is working with the permanent members of the UN Security Council to fix the damage Trump has done
Mac-7
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You speak as if the crazy mullahs in iran are rationalIt was a start and the idea was to go back to the table when the time was ripe.
To walk out before negotiating was a huge error. Now we have nothing.
but they arent
they are building nukes for allah and will be even more unwilling to give them up when their position is stronger thanks to obama and biden
America needs to ask this Administration, with respect to each and every Executive Order and Presidential proclamation, "How does this benefit the American people?"
The question will not be asked because the Leftists in the Media know the answer, as we all do: "No benefit whatsoever."
As for the non-Treaty with Iran (never ratified by the U.S. Senate as required) it will not do to examine its specific provisions because it was based on a false and phony premise. It would be like entering a treaty with Canada to curtail surfing on Lake Erie.
The false premise of the Iran Nuclear "deal" was that Iran has a legitimate desire to pursue commercial nuclear power. It does not. Iran sits on a lake of oil and gas, and has no interest whatsoever in reducing its carbon footprint. What it does want is a "cover" for its nuclear weapons aspirations, and it so happens that the same technology that enriches uranium for nuclear fuel can be used to enrich uranium (to a far greater degree) for nuclear weapons. Having a nuclear power plant or two gives them the ability to enrich uranium "out in the open." That's all.
Even entering into negotiations with Iran on the premises presented was foolish. The Europeans were keen to do it because they wanted to trade with Iran but knew that it was a rogue state and they oughtn't do it. We don't have that excuse. It was a stupid deal based on a known-false premise.
Which is why Biden again embraces it. Leftists are too oblivious to understand that a bad deal is WORSE than no deal at all. Which of course, 45 was well aware of.
The question will not be asked because the Leftists in the Media know the answer, as we all do: "No benefit whatsoever."
As for the non-Treaty with Iran (never ratified by the U.S. Senate as required) it will not do to examine its specific provisions because it was based on a false and phony premise. It would be like entering a treaty with Canada to curtail surfing on Lake Erie.
The false premise of the Iran Nuclear "deal" was that Iran has a legitimate desire to pursue commercial nuclear power. It does not. Iran sits on a lake of oil and gas, and has no interest whatsoever in reducing its carbon footprint. What it does want is a "cover" for its nuclear weapons aspirations, and it so happens that the same technology that enriches uranium for nuclear fuel can be used to enrich uranium (to a far greater degree) for nuclear weapons. Having a nuclear power plant or two gives them the ability to enrich uranium "out in the open." That's all.
Even entering into negotiations with Iran on the premises presented was foolish. The Europeans were keen to do it because they wanted to trade with Iran but knew that it was a rogue state and they oughtn't do it. We don't have that excuse. It was a stupid deal based on a known-false premise.
Which is why Biden again embraces it. Leftists are too oblivious to understand that a bad deal is WORSE than no deal at all. Which of course, 45 was well aware of.
Disir
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Right at this moment, nothing and it appears to the rest of the world that Iran is the one dictating how this is going to play out. We know that Iran is financing terrorist groups and until that ends this is completely useless. That's why the prior deal under Obama was so shitty.
Ya, cutting off your nose to spite your face will make america safe
11 Iranians were caught last month trying to cross the border.
They shoulda drove drunk across.
Disir
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Even entering into negotiations with Iran on the premises presented was foolish. The Europeans were keen to do it because they wanted to trade with Iran but knew that it was a rogue state and they oughtn't do it. We don't have that excuse. It was a stupid deal based on a known-false premise.
That's it right there.
You speak as if the crazy mullahs in iran are rationalIt was a start and the idea was to go back to the table when the time was ripe.
To walk out before negotiating was a huge error. Now we have nothing.
but they arent
they are building nukes for allah and will be even more unwilling to give them up when their position is stronger thanks to obama and biden
And we will never know, will we? The Iranian economy was improving and the populace was happy. Now we have nothing, rational or not. First, you negotiate and then you leave the agreement. Just common sense, not one of Trump's attributes.You speak as if the crazy mullahs in iran are rationalIt was a start and the idea was to go back to the table when the time was ripe.
To walk out before negotiating was a huge error. Now we have nothing.
but they arent
they are building nukes for allah and will be even more unwilling to give them up when their position is stronger thanks to obama and biden
Sure we did. You let Trump rule your mind. The fact is that we had a break in the action which could lead to more negotiation as the agreement came to an end.It was a start and the idea was to go back to the table when the time was ripe.Trump is not a washington can kickerDonald never should have walked away from
The deal.
the deal obama made was good for obama because it postponed Iran acquiring nukes till after he was out of office
but it did nothing to prevent a nuclear war in the middle east
To walk out before negotiating was a huge error. Now we have nothing.
We never had anything.
If you are not in the game, you can't get a hit.
Mac-7
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Why should we want the Irainian economy to improve?The Iranian economy was improving and the populace was happy.
thats the stupid policy we adopted to deal with red china for 50 years and it clearly backfired on us
Why should we want the Irainian economy to improve?The Iranian economy was improving and the populace was happy.
thats the stupid policy we adopted to deal with red china for 50 years and it clearly backfired on us
I don't think the Iranians are ever going to be able to project power out of the middle east. There aren't that many of them
China on the other hand with it's population was destined to become a competitor even a 1/3 per capita GDP. Really before that.
Same with India.
Hell even mexico is a much bigger threat than Iran they have over 300 million people. Brazil also more of a threat. They're already in the western hemisphere. Iran would have to control the middle east to be able to project power to the western hemisphere whic will never ever happen
Stop listening to Israeli talking points.
We have no reason to care about the iranians
Nothing changed with Iran under Trump. Nothing is going to change with Iran. They will become nuclear and no one is going to stop them.
I say that is good. Either we get rid of all nukes or everyone should have them. That's the best way to keep them from being used.
Iran is one of the few countries who would look to use their nuclear weapons in a offensive attack.
Since the advent of nuclear weapons the world has had much less war. The liberal crusade to get rid of all nukes is perhaps the dumbest thing in the world.
United Nations ? LMFAO! Biden = Neville Chamberlain.Biden and his son are a compromised threat to national security.Donald never should have walked away from
Ya, cutting off your nose to spite your face will make america safe
11 Iranians were caught last month trying to cross the border.
They shoulda drove drunk across.
The deal. They were abiding by it. Now grown ups are in charge again and not insane ignorant impulsive twits who run foreign policy based on who sucks up to them.
I hope that helps
Trump said he would negotiate a better deal. He never even tried.
Biden will negotiate a deal that will make the world safer
Biden is working with the permanent members of the UN Security Council to fix the damage Trump has done
All of a sudden it’s okay to trust Putin again
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We have to work with the major global leaders. Something Trump was incapable of doingUnited Nations ? LMFAO! Biden = Neville Chamberlain.Biden and his son are a compromised threat to national security.Donald never should have walked away from
Ya, cutting off your nose to spite your face will make america safe
11 Iranians were caught last month trying to cross the border.
They shoulda drove drunk across.
The deal. They were abiding by it. Now grown ups are in charge again and not insane ignorant impulsive twits who run foreign policy based on who sucks up to them.
I hope that helps
Trump said he would negotiate a better deal. He never even tried.
Biden will negotiate a deal that will make the world safer
Biden is working with the permanent members of the UN Security Council to fix the damage Trump has done
All of a sudden it’s okay to trust Putin again
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The liberal crusade to get rid of all nukes is perhaps the dumbest thing in the world.
How many nukes do we need?
We have gone from over 10,000 to 1,500 with no loss in security.
What if we reduced to 10 warheads that we could deliver with 100% accuracy?
Would any nation attack us knowing we could wipe out their ten biggest cities?
pknopp
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Sure we did. You let Trump rule your mind. The fact is that we had a break in the action which could lead to more negotiation as the agreement came to an end.It was a start and the idea was to go back to the table when the time was ripe.Trump is not a washington can kickerDonald never should have walked away from
The deal.
the deal obama made was good for obama because it postponed Iran acquiring nukes till after he was out of office
but it did nothing to prevent a nuclear war in the middle east
To walk out before negotiating was a huge error. Now we have nothing.
We never had anything.
If you are not in the game, you can't get a hit.
I never mentioned Trump. Now I will. Bush did nothing. Obama did nothing. Trump did nothing. Biden will do nothing.
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Democrats feel sorry for everyone, especially murderers.
pknopp
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Nothing changed with Iran under Trump. Nothing is going to change with Iran. They will become nuclear and no one is going to stop them.
I say that is good. Either we get rid of all nukes or everyone should have them. That's the best way to keep them from being used.
Iran is one of the few countries who would look to use their nuclear weapons in a offensive attack.
Only the U.S. has used them and only the U.S. is invading countries.
Since the advent of nuclear weapons the world has had much less war. The liberal crusade to get rid of all nukes is perhaps the dumbest thing in the world.
Odd how people refuse to call war, war. It's rare when we are not at war.
We have to work with the major global leaders. Something Trump was incapable of doingUnited Nations ? LMFAO! Biden = Neville Chamberlain.Biden and his son are a compromised threat to national security.Donald never should have walked away from
Ya, cutting off your nose to spite your face will make america safe
11 Iranians were caught last month trying to cross the border.
They shoulda drove drunk across.
The deal. They were abiding by it. Now grown ups are in charge again and not insane ignorant impulsive twits who run foreign policy based on who sucks up to them.
I hope that helps
Trump said he would negotiate a better deal. He never even tried.
Biden will negotiate a deal that will make the world safer
Biden is working with the permanent members of the UN Security Council to fix the damage Trump has done
All of a sudden it’s okay to trust Putin again
The best thing Trump ever did was bleed Iran dry. It’s resulted in less violence
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