What is driving this trade war?

[imawhosure]

Mac was defeated by Trump. Possessed by the Orange man.
He cannot comprehend what you are saying because he doesn't allow himself to see anything that doesn't say Orange man bad. Everything must equal that. If it doesn't - it can't be.
Giving China most favored trade status, NAFTA and refusing to add tariffs or VAT on foreign made products using slave labor was done for what?? Why did they do it??
So the elites could rake in $trillions. As a country we invested in our own demise. Prior to 1980 China was an economic desert. Over 95% of the population lived in dirt. Today it is an economic powerhouse that has continued to invest $trillions into an enormous military. All financed by us.
We gave them the money to do it.
And where did we get the money? We took it away from the middle class in the form of wages, converted that to profits for the elites.
And Mac1958 with his CNN and MSNBC - are now pounding sand to keep doing it.

Mac claims he is in the financial sector, a know all, see all if you will, kinda like Karnak, lol.

But, if he actually is in the financial sector as he claims, is it any wonder he would pull for LEFTIST ideas. How much money do you think these supposed "high echelon" clowns made off the backs of the middle class being dismantled while their jobs were sent to China, inflationary pressures almost FORCING people to invest in the stock market....as any money left in the bank lost value each and every day under Biden.

Ask Fancy, Nancy, Pelosi, Adam Shifty Shiff, the Communist Bernie Sanders, how much they made in profits.....along with Der Floozy, dismantling the middle class.

Reading the words of MACAFLOOZY, it is obvious his mind set is not middle class America, it is more Communist China, and elite Hollywood. Hope his lifestyle parallels his thought processes.

 

[Mac1958]

A significant part of the problem is Don's penchant for stamping the trump brand on his reordering of the global economy. Just as he did when he blew up NAFTA, he wanted to remake it in his image.

Problematic because he lacks the depth of understanding necessary to go about it in an informed, methodical way to achieve a goal beneficial to all parties.

The way the rubes are defending his constant changes to tariff rules show us how little he and they know about global macroeconomics.

This. Is. Fucking. Madness.

You can't do this. You can't keep changing international tariff agreements every fucking time you get the whim. Businesses and markets around the world need stability and clarity, 24/7/365.

This is Pee Wee's Playhouse, and America no longer has any credibility. One guy did this, enabled by craven cowards and ignorant rubes.

 

[Mac-7]

Cost $1 million. They smuggle $10 million dollars A DAY through that tunnel.

You're being played. Stop it. Shut it Mac.

Before trump the drug lords didnt have to dig million dollar tunnels to smuggle their drugs

I know you are just making up the numbers

But even you admit the cost of doing business is going up for the mexicans

 

[berg80]

stamping Bidenomics

Bidenomics, you must mean the economy that was the envy of the world until Dotard got his ignorant hands on it.

 

[Billiejeens]

A significant part of the problem is Don's penchant for stamping the trump brand on his reordering of the global economy. Just as he did when he blew up NAFTA, he wanted to remake it in his image.

Problematic because he lacks the depth of understanding necessary to go about it in an informed, methodical way to achieve a goal beneficial to all parties.

Yet, he is literally the most successful person in the history of our country, a country, I remind you that has a penchant for having great successful people.

Also, he has surrounded himself with the best and the brightest, I will also remind you, that the best and the brightest do not always agree with the President or each other.

(Our beloved President Trump doesn't ignore people with conflicting ideas, unlike some people who spend their life spamming message boards for a few shekels.)

 

[iamwhatiseem]

The way the rubes are defending his constant changes to tariff rules show us how little he and they know about global macroeconomics.

This. Is. Fucking. Madness.

You can't do this. You can't keep changing international tariff agreements every fucking time you get the whim. Businesses and markets around the world need stability and clarity, 24/7/365.

This is Pee Wee's Playhouse, and America no longer has any credibility. One guy did this, enabled by craven cowards and ignorant rubes.

You are one of the purist rubes here.
China was given preferred trade status, then allowed total access to U.S. markets - and from day one - broke every international trade law that exist. All of them. Including the most watched - IP theft. They do it every single fucking day.
And here you are defending their ability to do keep doing it by PRETENDING it isn't happening just like Congress and the markets pretend they don't do it so they themselves can also make money off of their slave labor.

No one takes you seriously. How you haven't seen that by now is curious. You must be so full of yourself, you just can't see it.

 

[sealybobo]

Before trump the drug lords didnt have to dig million dollar tunnels to smuggle their drugs

I know you are just making up the numbers

But even you admit the cost of doing business is going up for the mexicans

No I'm not making up the numbers. I saw a news piece on a tunnel they found. I think it was on Pablo Escobar or El Guapo.

The drug lords dug tunnels before Trump, during Trump 1.0, during Biden and they are digging them now under Trump 2.0. In fact right now there is a tunnel and millions of dollars of cocaine is going through it. Literally as we speak.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Mac claims he is in the financial sector, a know all, see all if you will, kinda like Karnak, lol.

But, if he actually is in the financial sector as he claims, is it any wonder he would pull for LEFTIST ideas. How much money do you think these supposed "high echelon" clowns made off the backs of the middle class being dismantled while their jobs were sent to China, inflationary pressures almost FORCING people to invest in the stock market....as any money left in the bank lost value each and every day under Biden.

Ask Fancy, Nancy, Pelosi, Adam Shifty Shiff, the Communist Bernie Sanders, how much they made in profits.....along with Der Floozy, dismantling the middle class.

Reading the words of MACAFLOOZY, it is obvious his mind set is not middle class America, it is more Communist China, and elite Hollywood. Hope his lifestyle parallels his thought processes.

Your victim mentality and white knighting the middle class is so cringe and hilarious at the same time.

 

[imawhosure]

Your victim mentality and white knighting the middle class is so cringe and hilarious at the same time.

And your arrogant attitude about the people who make this country work, is why your side is in the crapper-)

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Yes I get a little aggravated when I see sanctimonious liberals who present their "facts" totally free of reality and pretending away what is real.
With giving China access to U.S. markets, NAFTA and all other "free trade" bullshit that occurred from the 1980s-2000s where the American middle class got hosed so investors could take all of the money saved by those wages and keep it for themselves. - And they all knew they were doing it.
You don't think Alan Greenspan knew it? You don't think Larry Summers knew it? You don't think Robert Rubin knew it? You don't think Bernanke and Yellen didn't know it??
They all fucking knew it - and personally profited from it. NO DIFFERENT than the slave traders did 200 years ago. They make their money off of the backs of economic slaves in China and SE Asia.
So quit pretending that is not a reality.

 

[sealybobo]

Your victim mentality and white knighting the middle class is so cringe and hilarious at the same time.

AOC, Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, has called for greater transparency regarding stock trades by members of Congress, particularly in light of President Trump's recent tariff policy changes and the subsequent market reactions.
Specifically, she is concerned about potential insider trading related to:

• Trump's tariff policy shifts: She raised concerns about whether anyone in the administration or Congress might have used non-public information about the president's tariff decisions to profit from the resulting market volatility.
• Spike in Nasdaq call volume: AOC noted a significant spike in Nasdaq call volume immediately before the announcement of a pause in Trump's tariffs, suggesting potential insider knowledge of the impending policy shift.
• Trump's social media activity: She and others found Trump's social media posts, shortly before the tariff announcement, encouraging people to buy stocks, to be suspicious.

 

[sealybobo]

And your arrogant attitude about the people who make this country work, is why your side is in the crapper-)

You remind me of Samuel L Jackson in Django Unchained.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Kevin O' Leary said it very well yesterday - "I am done with it, sick of it. There is an absolute unspoken rule in the American business world, once a company gets to around the $5 million revenue line with a new product or software - China will steal it, rebrand it and sell it openly on the same market as you for 30%-40% less. And you have 2 choices. Go bankrupt, or outsource your product to also be mad in China to lower your price. And everyone ignores it"

 

[Care4all]

LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! China has been stealing intellectual Property since the 70s; you are just a lying freak!!!

Greg

Meanwhile 90% of all other areas of business done there in China by American Companies and small businesses, has made them rich, and let every day Americans, even poorer ones, buy gifts for their kids.

Cutting off your nose, to spite your face....is not really the right, sensible approach.

Those intellectual property thefts on electronics, or technology etc, should have been approached by us, with our allies directly.... Those sensitive businesses harmed, always have a choice to come back to the USA or ally country to protect themselves from China's theft, if our Govt can't get it corrected.

Blowing up the world, just cuz you can, is NOT A GOOD THING....it's reckless, and at us peon's sake....imo.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Meanwhile 90% of all other areas of business done there in China by American Companies and small businesses, has made them rich, and let every day Americans, even poorer ones, buy gifts for their kids.

Cutting off your nose, to spite your face....is not really the right, sensible approach.

Those intellectual property thefts on electronics, or technology etc, should have been approached by us, with our allies directly.... Those sensitive businesses harmed, always have a choice to come back to the USA or ally country to protect themselves from China's theft, if our gifts can't get it corrected.

Blowing up the world, just cuz you can, is NOT A GOOD THING....it's reckless, and at us peon's sake....imo.

The sheer blind stupidity of this post is truly - truly - mind blowing.
I can only chock it up to being mind warped by the media and TDS.
Nothing else makes sense that an intelligent adult can make a post like this.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

AOC, Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, has called for greater transparency regarding stock trades by members of Congress, particularly in light of President Trump's recent tariff policy changes and the subsequent market reactions.
Specifically, she is concerned about potential insider trading related to:

• Trump's tariff policy shifts: She raised concerns about whether anyone in the administration or Congress might have used non-public information about the president's tariff decisions to profit from the resulting market volatility.
• Spike in Nasdaq call volume: AOC noted a significant spike in Nasdaq call volume immediately before the announcement of a pause in Trump's tariffs, suggesting potential insider knowledge of the impending policy shift.
• Trump's social media activity: She and others found Trump's social media posts, shortly before the tariff announcement, encouraging people to buy stocks, to be suspicious.

Disaster administration 2.0 is chock full of criminal dip shits. None of this is surprising.

 

[Mac1958]

Like Putin invading Ukraine, Trump thought everyone would immediately fold like a cheap suit for him.

Autocrats are always given bad information by craven sycophants who afraid to challenge them, and end up making bad decisions based on that bad information.

 

[sealybobo]

Like Putin invading Ukraine, Trump thought everyone would immediately fold like a cheap suit for him.

Autocrats are always given bad information by craven sycophants who afraid to challenge them, and end up making bad decisions based on that bad information.

Why are we having a trade war with China? I thought we wanted to bring jobs home. So there should be no debate, war or discussion.

Medicine, bring it home. Weapons manufacturing, etc. Whatever we should be making here, bring those jobs home. Charge China a 1000 tariff on those things.

But why the trade war and back and forth? Why not ONLY tariff the jobs we want to come home and leave the rest alone?

China Hits Back At US And Will Raise Tariffs On American Goods From 84% To 125%

“There are no winners in a tariff war,” Chinese leader Xi Jinping said.

www.huffpost.com

 

[candycorn]

What is the one (1) consistent common denominator in virtually ALL of Trump's relationships? The ONE thing he will ALWAYS complain about?

It's about how he is "treated". If he feels he has not been "treated" well enough, he gets angry and acts out. This is something that is happening in his head alone. He is the one who decides on the spot if he's being "treated" well enough. If not, here we go.

So in this case, he has obviously felt for decades that he has somehow been taken advantage of by other countries. That they're getting the better of him somehow. So now he's responding in the only way he knows: He's attacking without looking at a bigger picture. He attacks, sees that the results are bad, and then changes course.

I know that Trump's fans think that they'll see a clear, tangible and material difference in their lives once Trump has exacted his revenge on all those countries. The sad thing here is, on balance, they will not. There are larger issues that influence the vector of an economy.

You’re way overthinking this and giving the blob and his supporters way too much credit.

In the mind of a blobber....

Surplus=good
Deficit=bad

So he wants a trade surplus because of this child-like take on “good and bad”.

 

[sealybobo]

You’re way overthinking this and giving the blob and his supporters way too much credit.

In the mind of a blobber....

Surplus=good
Deficit=bad

So he wants a trade surplus because of this child-like take on “good and bad”.

We buy from China because they sell us things cheap. Why should China buy from us?

Imagine if we sold things to another country because we sold them "cheap". And then one day they said "sorry, in order for us to buy from you, you have to buy just as much shit from us as we buy from you".

Would we buy their shit? No. Because their shit is expensive. It's why they buy from us.