What exactly is the "one state solution"?

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The partition was a horrific mess with horrendous bloodshed. Not only that, it was sheer arrogance that the people in charge assumed religion was the only important factor! It left Bengali in the cold. Best solution? Bloodiest solution. And a crime against humanity. So because Arab countries expelled Jews - that justifies, in your mind, expelling people who had nothing to do with the decisions of those countries?

You must have forgotten how arab muslims are doing TEN TIMES WORSE THAN THAT RIGHT ******* NOW to the coptics, yazidis, maronites, chaldeans, maneachans, azeri, bahai, etc. The arab muslims are no longer getting a pass for their ******* shit, murderous, genocidal behavior - and it is LONG past time they were held to account for what they have done - and are currently doing.
 
No my friend...It is YOU who is brain damaged if you think that post #135 is a solution! That is just stupid, arrogant BS that is expected from those who have little to no knowledge of that real situation in the ME... So, shall we try, just one more time, go on, give it a go... Other than your dumb belligerence, do you actually have a sensible thing to offer as a solution? It's ok if you don't... Wouldn't want you to hurt yourself...

Retarded asshole, the arab muslims are IN NO ******* POSITION WHATSOEVER to make demands or demand a settlement to their liking; they initiated MULTIPLE wars against Israel and have been murdering jews there for centuries. They are SO, SO ******* fortunate that it is the jews who are there because had it been any other group they would have responded to the endless, mindless terrorism from the arabs with guns blazing and lit up the ******* arabs for 1,000 miles - none would even still be living in the area.

Being allowed to move out is FAR better than they deserve, as I said most would not even be alive today had it been a different group than the softie jews, who crave peace and being liked more than most humans want air to breathe.

You simply do not like the solution which is your problem; if you don't like it - then you should stop asking.

Speaking of questions - when are you going to answer mine: when have the arab muslims EVER in recorded history lived peacefully with another non-muslim group as equals?
 
No my friend...It is YOU who is brain damaged if you think that post #135 is a solution! That is just stupid, arrogant BS that is expected from those who have little to no knowledge of that real situation in the ME... So, shall we try, just one more time, go on, give it a go... Other than your dumb belligerence, do you actually have a sensible thing to offer as a solution? It's ok if you don't... Wouldn't want you to hurt yourself...

Retarded asshole, the arab muslims are IN NO ******* POSITION WHATSOEVER to make demands or demand a settlement to their liking; they initiated MULTIPLE wars against Israel and have been murdering jews there for centuries. They are SO, SO ******* fortunate that it is the jews who are there because had it been any other group they would have responded to the endless, mindless terrorism from the arabs with guns blazing and lit up the ******* arabs for 1,000 miles - none would even still be living in the area.

Being allowed to move out is FAR better than they deserve, as I said most would not even be alive today had it been a different group than the softie jews, who crave peace and being liked more than most humans want air to breathe.

You simply do not like the solution which is your problem; if you don't like it - then you should stop asking.

Speaking of questions - when are you going to answer mine: when have the arab muslims EVER in recorded history lived peacefully with another non-muslim group as equals?
That was sort of brilliant.
In fact, that was brilliant.
Kudos.
 
The partition was a horrific mess with horrendous bloodshed. Not only that, it was sheer arrogance that the people in charge assumed religion was the only important factor! It left Bengali in the cold. Best solution? Bloodiest solution. And a crime against humanity. So because Arab countries expelled Jews - that justifies, in your mind, expelling people who had nothing to do with the decisions of those countries?

You must have forgotten how arab muslims are doing TEN TIMES WORSE THAN THAT RIGHT ******* NOW to the coptics, yazidis, maronites, chaldeans, maneachans, azeri, bahai, etc. The arab muslims are no longer getting a pass for their ******* shit, murderous, genocidal behavior - and it is LONG past time they were held to account for what they have done - and are currently doing.
ISIS is ISIS.
 
No my friend...It is YOU who is brain damaged if you think that post #135 is a solution! That is just stupid, arrogant BS that is expected from those who have little to no knowledge of that real situation in the ME... So, shall we try, just one more time, go on, give it a go... Other than your dumb belligerence, do you actually have a sensible thing to offer as a solution? It's ok if you don't... Wouldn't want you to hurt yourself...

Retarded asshole, the arab muslims are IN NO ******* POSITION WHATSOEVER to make demands or demand a settlement to their liking; they initiated MULTIPLE wars against Israel and have been murdering jews there for centuries. They are SO, SO ******* fortunate that it is the jews who are there because had it been any other group they would have responded to the endless, mindless terrorism from the arabs with guns blazing and lit up the ******* arabs for 1,000 miles - none would even still be living in the area.

Being allowed to move out is FAR better than they deserve, as I said most would not even be alive today had it been a different group than the softie jews, who crave peace and being liked more than most humans want air to breathe.

You simply do not like the solution which is your problem; if you don't like it - then you should stop asking.

Speaking of questions - when are you going to answer mine: when have the arab muslims EVER in recorded history lived peacefully with another non-muslim group as equals?

Oh, oh... Calm down dear...

It's clear that you are simply not capable of adult conversation... It's ok, not everyone has the capability of non abusive, adult debate...

Listen, we can all shout and scream "leave", no matter where you are from... However, that is not a solution is it!

:cuckoo:
 
No my friend...It is YOU who is brain damaged if you think that post #135 is a solution! That is just stupid, arrogant BS that is expected from those who have little to no knowledge of that real situation in the ME... So, shall we try, just one more time, go on, give it a go... Other than your dumb belligerence, do you actually have a sensible thing to offer as a solution? It's ok if you don't... Wouldn't want you to hurt yourself...

Retarded asshole, the arab muslims are IN NO ******* POSITION WHATSOEVER to make demands or demand a settlement to their liking; they initiated MULTIPLE wars against Israel and have been murdering jews there for centuries. They are SO, SO ******* fortunate that it is the jews who are there because had it been any other group they would have responded to the endless, mindless terrorism from the arabs with guns blazing and lit up the ******* arabs for 1,000 miles - none would even still be living in the area.

Being allowed to move out is FAR better than they deserve, as I said most would not even be alive today had it been a different group than the softie jews, who crave peace and being liked more than most humans want air to breathe.

You simply do not like the solution which is your problem; if you don't like it - then you should stop asking.

Speaking of questions - when are you going to answer mine: when have the arab muslims EVER in recorded history lived peacefully with another non-muslim group as equals?

Oh, oh... Calm down dear...

It's clear that you are simply not capable of adult conversation... It's ok, not everyone has the capability of non abusive, adult debate...

Listen, we can all shout and scream "leave", no matter where you are from... However, that is not a solution is it!

:cuckoo:

Forced expulsion of people is a crime and seldom ended well for the people expelled. They usually end up in worse circumstances. I'm guessing this poster and his buddy would have cheered the Trail of Tears.

It's no solution.
 
ISIS is ISIS.

And is arab muslim.

And is supported by many millions of arab muslims - since they could not exist or continue fighting for a decade without them. But bottom feeders like you prefer to try and obscure/ignore every example of the hideousness of arab muslims, while highighting lesser items of their enemies.
 
Oh, oh... Calm down dear...It's clear that you are simply not capable of adult conversation... It's ok, not everyone has the capability of non abusive, adult debate...Listen, we can all shout and scream "leave", no matter where you are from... However, that is not a solution is it!

What's clear is that you're dishonest trash, and think that by attacking me you can continue to avoid being called out as garbage.

So I ask the question again, when have the arab muslims EVER in their history lived peacefully alongside non-muslims?
 
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Forced expulsion of people is a crime and seldom ended well for the people expelled. They usually end up in worse circumstances. I'm guessing this poster and his buddy would have cheered the Trail of Tears. It's no solution.

They are no different than the illegal alien mexicans and nicaraguans who walked across the US border; they have no right to be there. They came for jobs - now they have to leave.

There is lots of land in saudia arabia, egypt and throughout the mideast - they can live there. I'm fed up with watching the arab muslims ethnically cleanse everyone else out of the mideast - then complain with help from enabling morons like you - about how the one group they cannot force out (Israel) is standing up for itself and not capitulating like the others who are not as militarily strong.
 
Oh, oh... Calm down dear...It's clear that you are simply not capable of adult conversation... It's ok, not everyone has the capability of non abusive, adult debate...Listen, we can all shout and scream "leave", no matter where you are from... However, that is not a solution is it!

What's clear is that you're dishonest trash, and think that by attacking me you can continue to avoid being called out as garbage.

So I ask the question again, when have the arab muslims EVER in their history lived peacefully alongside non-muslims?

Hahaha "attacking" you?

So, you don't have a sensible solution, maybe stop posting on this thread! :blahblah:
 
No my friend...It is YOU who is brain damaged if you think that post #135 is a solution! That is just stupid, arrogant BS that is expected from those who have little to no knowledge of that real situation in the ME... So, shall we try, just one more time, go on, give it a go... Other than your dumb belligerence, do you actually have a sensible thing to offer as a solution? It's ok if you don't... Wouldn't want you to hurt yourself...

Retarded asshole, the arab muslims are IN NO ******* POSITION WHATSOEVER to make demands or demand a settlement to their liking; they initiated MULTIPLE wars against Israel and have been murdering jews there for centuries. They are SO, SO ******* fortunate that it is the jews who are there because had it been any other group they would have responded to the endless, mindless terrorism from the arabs with guns blazing and lit up the ******* arabs for 1,000 miles - none would even still be living in the area.

Being allowed to move out is FAR better than they deserve, as I said most would not even be alive today had it been a different group than the softie jews, who crave peace and being liked more than most humans want air to breathe.

You simply do not like the solution which is your problem; if you don't like it - then you should stop asking.

Speaking of questions - when are you going to answer mine: when have the arab muslims EVER in recorded history lived peacefully with another non-muslim group as equals?

Oh, oh... Calm down dear...

It's clear that you are simply not capable of adult conversation... It's ok, not everyone has the capability of non abusive, adult debate...

Listen, we can all shout and scream "leave", no matter where you are from... However, that is not a solution is it!

:cuckoo:

Forced expulsion of people is a crime and seldom ended well for the people expelled. They usually end up in worse circumstances.

Is that also relevent in cases of Amona and Gush Katif, or are only Arabs worh protecting from home demolishions?

I'll hold you to what you said.
 
Hahaha "attacking" you? So, you don't have a sensible solution, maybe stop posting on this thread!

Not only are you trash but are HIGHLY unintelligent with ZERO credibility.

To the forum at large, I'd suggest putting this turd on ignore and/or bypassing them entirely until they and their pro-arab terror apologists can answer this most fundamental, core question:

"When have the arab muslims EVER in their history lived peacefully alongside non-muslims for any length of time?

It is not surprising but telling that NOT ONE SINGLE pro-arab muslim poster here has even attempted to respond to this post, NONE.
 
We have a thread to discuss solutions to the conflict from the lens of two states. Many members would prefer a one state solution. So let's discuss that as well.

What would a one state solution look like? How would it preserve both the Jewish and the Arab character of the territory? Do you envision a system of loosely connected, self-governing provinces with a federal government or just one overall government? Would parliament be half Jewish/half Arab, or would there be some sort of proportional representation? How would you protect the minority populations, including some which may be somewhat hostile? How would you preserve the cultural artifacts of each group, both tangible and non-tangible? Who gets to pray on the Temple Mount, renovate or build there? Would the Jewish people be able to build a synagogue there? What would you call the new country? What would its charter look like? Will the laws be based on sharia or halakhah or both or neither? Will immigration be based on jus soli or jus sanguinis? Who will be eligible? Will civil matters, such as marriage, be handled by civil courts or by religious institutions?

Some are going to say, "a secular and democratic state" (I'm looking at you P F Tinmore and montelatici). Please be specific. What does this mean? This is a great opportunity for you to discuss not only the mistakes you see Israel making -- but provide solutions. How will the new country handle illegal building? Or terrorist acts? Terrorist groups who try to rise up? How will you handle discrimination?

How will you convince me that in a hundred years, the state will still be both a Jewish state and also an Arab state?
I am going to weigh-in on this and point out that in the USA a one-state solution between DEMs and GOP is NOT working.

Therefore it is ludicrous to imagine that a one state solution would work between muslims and Jews in Israel.

The other thing to note is that no matter how much land the Jews give back to the Palestinians there will still never be peace. The Palestinians will have learned they can get land for peace by effecting terrorism therefore they being barely above the level of farm animals will continue terrorism.

The main mistake that the Jews have made so far is that what little land they have given the Palestinians in Gaza is not enough to hold and feed them all. So the land issue does need to be revisited.

The only other alternative is for the Jews to exterminate the Palestinians, which is probably their current policy.

In the meantime the US should get out of Israel and stop wasting money on them in foreign aid.
 
The U.S. Constitution would be a starting point. No government-sponsored religion. No religious tests for office. Complete freedom of religion. No discrimination on the basis of race, ethnicity or religion.

There is no doubt that Arab-Muslims would immediately start to breed their way to political dominance, and within a generation would initiate some for genocide against the jews.

The sticking point is that Israel must be a Jewish State. And while this seems like a racist (or pick another word) demand, the people who see it as such have no problem with the large number of countries that are explicitly designated in their fundamental documents as "Islamic" states. Thus, the objection to Israel being a Jewish state is in itself racist.
Indeed, the Palestinian constitution was written with the assistance of US constitutional scholars. It is very similar including a "bill of rights."

How To "Free Palestine"

Indeed, that's funny stuff. In every implementation of an Islamist state, we find it to be a waking nightmare of social, political and gender apartheid.

Your Magical Kingdom of Disney Pal'istan shares all the same retrograde attributes that afflict other Islamist paradises acrosss the Islamist Middle East. There are competing tribes with competing interests who have no aversion to regime change at the business end of a gun. The Hamas vs. Fatah civil war in the late 2000's showed us precisely the brutality that these two, competing Islamic terrorist franchises are willing to inflict upon one-another.
You didn't look at my link.

How To "Free Palestine"

How to Free Palestine...
[1] Give a ****
[2] Nobody gives a ****
[3] Plan Fail
Sad but true.

Jewish influence in the USA and world wide goes against the Palestinians ever having any chance at a realistic SEPARATE COUNTRY with sufficient land to hold and feed them all.
 
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One state solution = all of current Israel, all of Jerusalem, all of Samaria and Judea and none of Gaza, with 95% of the Arabs deported to Gaza and Jordan!


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Nah, we like Jordan. Deport them to Syria.
Naw, Syria is still to close.

If you are going to deport Palestinians they should go to Turkey with their moosleem brothers.

Turkey is the moosleem superpower in the world (as is Pakistan, but the Pakistanis and the Palestinians would never get along even though both are moosleem) so Turkey should take the Palestinians in if deportation is going to be The Final Solution.
 
Hahaha "attacking" you? So, you don't have a sensible solution, maybe stop posting on this thread!

Not only are you trash but are HIGHLY unintelligent with ZERO credibility.

To the forum at large, I'd suggest putting this turd on ignore and/or bypassing them entirely until they and their pro-arab terror apologists can answer this most fundamental, core question:

"When have the arab muslims EVER in their history lived peacefully alongside non-muslims for any length of time?

It is not surprising but telling that NOT ONE SINGLE pro-arab muslim poster here has even attempted to respond to this post, NONE.

From 600 to 1948: Tunisia, Morocco, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq
 
Meet rhodescholar.

rhodescholar can be very brutal

rhodescholar doesn't take crap from anyone.

rhodescholar can be vulgar at cases. rhodescholar is also many times right

Be right, too

be like rhodescholar.:rofl:

Rhodescholar is wrong on every thing he claims. He just parrots Zionist propaganda, like you.

And, his vulgarity and personal attacks are accepted because he is pro-Israel. If I responded in kind to him I would be banned. That's how this forum works. The Zionists have got this place sewn up like they have America.

I was banned three times on this board, just for saying the truth. So you wont get any sympathy for me.

Regarding the topic, I already said what I thought. So I have nothing more to add.

When have you ever stated anything that resembles the truth. You exclusively repeat debunked Zionist propaganda.

If you once seriously follow my words, intead of repeating the same mantra, you'll realize I'm one of the ONLY posters on the I/P board whose oppinion should even slightly matter.

Unlike the rest of you clowns.

That should be one more spill of truth for you.

Your words are just a repetition of Zionist propaganda. Palestine was empty, Palestinians don't exist, Zionists bought all the land, Palestinians came from Lebanon, Palestinians came from Syria, Palestinians came from Egypt and European Jews are from Palestine, etc.

These are not even "half truths"

"Palestine was empty" - No visitor to Palestine in the 19th century, nor Zionists ever said that.

"Zionists bought all the land" - No one has ever said that.
What was said is that from 1850 on, as the Ottoman Empire began to financial difficulties, the Ottomans began to sell land to both Arabs and Jews.
Jews bought the swamp area which then became Tel-Aviv, and many other non wanted areas by the Arabs, and built on them.

"Palestinians came from Lebanon, Syria, Egypt" - and Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Bosnia, and many other places where Arabs were living because the Jews, by building a infrastructure, were creating jobs which hired both Jews and non Jews. It is in Ottoman and British records of the time.
The Ottomans, with their invasions of some areas, also created migration from those places into the region of Palestine.
That is where thousands of Arabs who had never lived in the Region of Palestine came from, and stayed, and ended up involved in the upcoming conflict.


"Jews are from Palestine" - True
DNA proves it. Archeology proves it. The words of the Muslim leaders themselves prove it.
Muslim, Crusader, Ottoman, British records prove that the Jewish people were always present on the land.
European History proves that the Jews were the Jews, who had come from Asia Minor (region of Palestine) and lived in many of the countries in Europe until they were oppressed, attacked or expelled.
Why else would the European Germans want to kill so many Jews instead of forcing them to convert to their European beliefs?
Or the Inquisitors simply expel so many Jews instead of forcing these "Europeans" to convert to Christianity?
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Telling half truths or no truths at all about the history of either people does not help find a solution to end the conflict.
It is truly a hindrance which makes sure that the conflict will go on and on and on and.......

What IS the One State Solution ? Deal with the fact that Jews are Jews and they have a right to any part of their ancient homeland.
Which for now, is but 20% of its original size.
Which the Muslims, due to Islamic teachings, insist should revert to Muslim hands.

WHAT is the solution?
 
Hahaha "attacking" you? So, you don't have a sensible solution, maybe stop posting on this thread!

Not only are you trash but are HIGHLY unintelligent with ZERO credibility.

To the forum at large, I'd suggest putting this turd on ignore and/or bypassing them entirely until they and their pro-arab terror apologists can answer this most fundamental, core question:

"When have the arab muslims EVER in their history lived peacefully alongside non-muslims for any length of time?

It is not surprising but telling that NOT ONE SINGLE pro-arab muslim poster here has even attempted to respond to this post, NONE.

From 600 to 1948: Tunisia, Morocco, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq

Well, sure, if you don't count the dhimmi status, the pogroms, the blood libels, the ghettos, the expulsions, the occasional massacres. In fact, the shining advertisement for Jews to live in Muslim lands instead of Christian lands was that they had physical violence practiced against them slightly less frequently and could actually practice a profession.

Its kind of like the happy, peaceful relationship between Jews and Muslims in modern countries like Iran -- where there are two sets of laws -- one for Muslims and one for Jews. You know what that is, don't you?
 
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