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He was merely stating why there is not peace. True, of course.
No, he's not. If he were -- he would have included both narratives and would have presented it in a balanced, fair and understanding way. He wouldn't be framing things in terms of "massacres" occurring in a vacuum. He would acknowledge Gaza's belligerence and Israel's right to respond to that belligerence. He would acknowledge that Jewish desire for self-determination is the same as Palestinian desire for self-determination and not call it Jewish supremacy.
He was merely stating why there is not peace. True, of course.
No, he's not. If he were -- he would have included both narratives and would have presented it in a balanced, fair and understanding way. He wouldn't be framing things in terms of "massacres" occurring in a vacuum. He would acknowledge Gaza's belligerence and Israel's right to respond to that belligerence. He would acknowledge that Jewish desire for self-determination is the same as Palestinian desire for self-determination and not call it Jewish supremacy.
This is a standard Hasbara troll tactic, "balanced, fair and understanding way?" oh please! When the Palestinians retaliate to Zionist provocations they're being "belligerent", thus justifying a massively disproportionate response. This cartoon sums up the situation in a "fair, balanced and understanding" way
Oh, and it's not a "Jewish desire for self determination", its a Zionist desire for land that co-opts and perverts Judaism to it's goals.
There is the colonizer and the colonized.He was merely stating why there is not peace. True, of course.
No, he's not. If he were -- he would have included both narratives and would have presented it in a balanced, fair and understanding way. He wouldn't be framing things in terms of "massacres" occurring in a vacuum. He would acknowledge Gaza's belligerence and Israel's right to respond to that belligerence. He would acknowledge that Jewish desire for self-determination is the same as Palestinian desire for self-determination and not call it Jewish supremacy.
You tend to forget who is occupying whom.He was merely stating why there is not peace. True, of course.
No, he's not. If he were -- he would have included both narratives and would have presented it in a balanced, fair and understanding way. He wouldn't be framing things in terms of "massacres" occurring in a vacuum. He would acknowledge Gaza's belligerence and Israel's right to respond to that belligerence. He would acknowledge that Jewish desire for self-determination is the same as Palestinian desire for self-determination and not call it Jewish supremacy.
This is a standard Hasbara troll tactic, "balanced, fair and understanding way?" oh please! When the Palestinians retaliate to Zionist provocations they're being "belligerent", thus justifying a massively disproportionate response. This cartoon sums up the situation in a "fair, balanced and understanding" way
Oh, and it's not a "Jewish desire for self determination", its a Zionist desire for land that co-opts and perverts Judaism to it's goals.
In the twisted, alternate reality of the Islamic terrorist huggers, attacks by Islamic terrorists are somehow Zionist provocations™.
Taqiyya troll tactics.
Indeed!He was merely stating why there is not peace. True, of course.
No, he's not. If he were -- he would have included both narratives and would have presented it in a balanced, fair and understanding way. He wouldn't be framing things in terms of "massacres" occurring in a vacuum. He would acknowledge Gaza's belligerence and Israel's right to respond to that belligerence. He would acknowledge that Jewish desire for self-determination is the same as Palestinian desire for self-determination and not call it Jewish supremacy.
This is a standard Hasbara troll tactic, "balanced, fair and understanding way?" oh please! When the Palestinians retaliate to Zionist provocations they're being "belligerent", thus justifying a massively disproportionate response. This cartoon sums up the situation in a "fair, balanced and understanding" way
Oh, and it's not a "Jewish desire for self determination", its a Zionist desire for land that co-opts and perverts Judaism to it's goals.
Indeed!He was merely stating why there is not peace. True, of course.
No, he's not. If he were -- he would have included both narratives and would have presented it in a balanced, fair and understanding way. He wouldn't be framing things in terms of "massacres" occurring in a vacuum. He would acknowledge Gaza's belligerence and Israel's right to respond to that belligerence. He would acknowledge that Jewish desire for self-determination is the same as Palestinian desire for self-determination and not call it Jewish supremacy.
This is a standard Hasbara troll tactic, "balanced, fair and understanding way?" oh please! When the Palestinians retaliate to Zionist provocations they're being "belligerent", thus justifying a massively disproportionate response. This cartoon sums up the situation in a "fair, balanced and understanding" way
Oh, and it's not a "Jewish desire for self determination", its a Zionist desire for land that co-opts and perverts Judaism to it's goals.
There is the colonizer and the colonized.He was merely stating why there is not peace. True, of course.
No, he's not. If he were -- he would have included both narratives and would have presented it in a balanced, fair and understanding way. He wouldn't be framing things in terms of "massacres" occurring in a vacuum. He would acknowledge Gaza's belligerence and Israel's right to respond to that belligerence. He would acknowledge that Jewish desire for self-determination is the same as Palestinian desire for self-determination and not call it Jewish supremacy.
There, both narratives. Happy now?
The Israeli-Palestinian problem is not full of gray areas but is rather straightforward and uncomplicated, namely, Palestinians are living and dying under a brutal half-century long Israeli occupation.There is the colonizer and the colonized.He was merely stating why there is not peace. True, of course.
No, he's not. If he were -- he would have included both narratives and would have presented it in a balanced, fair and understanding way. He wouldn't be framing things in terms of "massacres" occurring in a vacuum. He would acknowledge Gaza's belligerence and Israel's right to respond to that belligerence. He would acknowledge that Jewish desire for self-determination is the same as Palestinian desire for self-determination and not call it Jewish supremacy.
There, both narratives. Happy now?
Very simplistic and black-and-white. Life is full of gray areas.
The Israeli-Palestinian problem is not full of gray areas but is rather straightforward and uncomplicated, namely, Palestinians are living and dying under a brutal half-century long Israeli occupation.There is the colonizer and the colonized.He was merely stating why there is not peace. True, of course.
No, he's not. If he were -- he would have included both narratives and would have presented it in a balanced, fair and understanding way. He wouldn't be framing things in terms of "massacres" occurring in a vacuum. He would acknowledge Gaza's belligerence and Israel's right to respond to that belligerence. He would acknowledge that Jewish desire for self-determination is the same as Palestinian desire for self-determination and not call it Jewish supremacy.
There, both narratives. Happy now?
Very simplistic and black-and-white. Life is full of gray areas.
Oh, and it's not a "Jewish desire for self determination", its a Zionist desire for land that co-opts and perverts Judaism to it's goals.
The state of Israel is founded on a twentieth-century land grab.Oh, and it's not a "Jewish desire for self determination", its a Zionist desire for land that co-opts and perverts Judaism to it's goals.
Why is Palestinian desire for self-determination seen in a positive light and Jewish desire for self-determination seen as an ugly land grab and a perversion?
See, this is the basic lack of respect that I'm talking about.
Because it is a land grab.Oh, and it's not a "Jewish desire for self determination", its a Zionist desire for land that co-opts and perverts Judaism to it's goals.
Why is Palestinian desire for self-determination seen in a positive light and Jewish desire for self-determination seen as an ugly land grab and a perversion?
See, this is the basic lack of respect that I'm talking about.
Because it is a land grab.
No part of the Middle East is ancestral land of European Jews.Because it is a land grab.
Why? What makes it a land grab and not a people seeking self-determination? What is the fundamental difference between those two things? Why is the idea of the Jewish people having sovereignty and self-determination on their ancestral lands DIFFERENT from any other people's?
No part of the Middle East is ancestral land of European Jews.Because it is a land grab.
Why? What makes it a land grab and not a people seeking self-determination? What is the fundamental difference between those two things? Why is the idea of the Jewish people having sovereignty and self-determination on their ancestral lands DIFFERENT from any other people's?
No part of the Middle East is ancestral land of European Jews.
No part of the Middle East is ancestral land of European Jews.
So, you are essentially saying that the Jewish people who clearly and undeniably are the historical culture of the land are in no way related to the Jewish people in the Diaspora even though they share the identical culture. There is no connection between the two.
Undoubtedly, the Jewish faith, like Christianity, has its roots in the Holy Land, millennia ago. These faiths were taken to other parts of the Roman World but forever Jerusalem represented a tradition for those who accepted the teachings. Through time, both these faiths which have an attachment to the Holy Land saw Jerusalem become inhabited mostly by Islam. Both Judaism and Christianity preserve a connection to the place in their prayers, psalms, and hymns. The Catholic Mass makes present the Passover meal Joshua Ben Joseph shared with his Jewish Apostles in Jerusalem and this is the holiest of Catholic prayers.No part of the Middle East is ancestral land of European Jews.Because it is a land grab.
Why? What makes it a land grab and not a people seeking self-determination? What is the fundamental difference between those two things? Why is the idea of the Jewish people having sovereignty and self-determination on their ancestral lands DIFFERENT from any other people's?
You're right, it's not only the ancestral land of European Jews, but it's the ancestral land of Mideastern Jews too. Whenever we pray or say grace after meals, we remember Israel. On all our holidays, on Passover and Yom Kippur, we say, "Next year in Jerusalem." On the fast day of Tisha B'av, we go without food or drink for 25 hours to remember the Temple in Jerusalem. In our weddings, we break a glass for Jerusalem. Family and work opportunities might keep us in other lands, but our hearts are always in Israel. And Masada shall not fall again.
No part of the Middle East is ancestral land of European Jews.Because it is a land grab.
Why? What makes it a land grab and not a people seeking self-determination? What is the fundamental difference between those two things? Why is the idea of the Jewish people having sovereignty and self-determination on their ancestral lands DIFFERENT from any other people's?
