C_Clayton_Jones
Diamond Member
Disdain for tyrannical government is not hating America.It's a load of crap.
Anti-government extremist want government to leave them alone, they aren't making a statement about what they want government to be. They want government to not be in their business.
Liberal's identity is so tied up in government, you can't even comprehend the idea that someone's identity isn't.
The problem with your question is you didn't define what you view as an extremist. Are you talking about the violent ones like Timothy McVie? Or do you consider libertarians extremists like Jake does. We are completely different animals.
I didn't SAY government. I said America. To reiterate, I said the following:
It's a hatred for America because it's not a reflection of the way they want it to be and think it should be.
It's their hatred for the way that America is that drives their anti-American sentiments and anti-American feelings. They may very well blame gov't for some of it, but certainly not all of it. They blame other groups of people who are not like them. Those other groups have agendas different than theirs, maybe even opposed to what they want. They believe that THEIR America is slipping away from them, and by their America I don't just mean the kind of nation they want. I also mean a nation that belongs to them which used to grant people like them preferential treatment. They don't care about E Pluribus Unum unless they can be first among so-called equals. This is where their problem with gov't begins because the gov't is no longer consistently or automatically siding with them just because of who they are. Often when they talk about a loss of their rights, that's what they really mean.
But, like kaz said, the progressive identity is so intertwined with government, that the two are believed to be one in the same.
As usual both you and kaz are wrong, as is anyone else who believes Americans are subject to a 'tyrannical government,' as nothing could be further from the truth.
Indeed, more Americans enjoy greater freedom and liberty today than at any time in this Nation's history.
This nonsense about 'tyrannical government' is nothing more than a partisan temper-tantrum on the part of the right.

